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Title: Broadhead advice
Post by: AlbinoRhino on May 19, 2016, 04:49:42 PM
I'm shopping for a new broadheads.. Every brand claims that they fly the most accurately but I wanted everyone else's opinion... I will have a few Shwackers in my quiver but will be planning on using fixed blade for elk.. I will be shooting a 435 grain set up with a 340 spine at around 280 fps... So what is the most accurate (least tuning required) broadheads y'all have used ?
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: 724wd on May 19, 2016, 04:56:27 PM
savora.  Vandyke 100 lps.  spun perfect for me.  shoot with my field points.  Incredibly sharp!!! 

Used to shoot montecs, most spun ok, but poor blood trails for me.  Then shot Shuttle-T locks, which shot well, but didn't seem "sharp."  Then I tried G5 strikers, which were SHARP, but didn't spin sell AT ALL. 
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2016, 05:19:57 PM
I've shot darn near every broadhead made since the early 80's.  The Anderson 245 Magnum was one of the hardest heads to get to fly well.  It was light weight for the times and had a 1.5" four blade profile with very large vent holes.  I can't remember the total number of animals I killed with it, but it was around ten.  I added brass inserts to 2413 shafts and shot four rather large feathers.  With proper FOC and enough fletching it shot just fine.  In comparison all other broadheads fly great! :chuckle:

If you want the best flying, most accurate head you want small, smooth and rattle free.  But most of all you want your arrow properly fletched, spined and balanced.  A well matched arrow combined with a perfectly tuned bow will make them all fly accurately.

In testing we like to push the limits and see what we can get away with in low FOC and minimal fletching.  Once we reach a limit we like to test in wind and rain.  In those conditions heads like the WASP Bullet, G5 Montec and our series of LPS bladed heads seem the most accepting to arrows with the poorest design.  Better than the vast majority of expandables out there!

With a well designed arrow it's much less a case of what is the more accurate head out there.  It's more a case of what head does not fly accurate.  There are not too many of those out there these days.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2016, 05:22:31 PM
I really like the Magnus Stingers.  Myself and two other buddies use then and have always had good results.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: jrebel on May 19, 2016, 05:24:42 PM
Slick Trick Standard 125's.  Fly exactly like my field points and are absolutely devistating on game.  Extremely tough design too.  I like them so much I have bought about 3 dozen so I never have to worry about them being discontinued or altered like a lot of my previous heads. 
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: AlbinoRhino on May 19, 2016, 05:27:49 PM
I really like the Magnus Stingers.  Myself and two other buddies use then and have always had good results.

The Magnus 2 blade really caught my eye, I like the idea of two blade penetration over 3! You have had success with their flight?
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: The scout on May 19, 2016, 05:36:31 PM
I tried pretty much every head on the market about 10yrs ago and went with the wac'em exit 125grn, flew awesome, super sharp, and just flat kill. surprises me how many people use the heads I thought were the worst, different strokes for different folks, don't think you could go wrong with any of Rad's heads either. when I use up my extra blades and heads I'm going to give them a go
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: RadSav on May 19, 2016, 05:47:12 PM
I might add that a well designed arrow eliminates the spin/wobble thing.  We had a local guy here (great shooter) that would not believe me.  He thought I was a complete whackadoodle.  So one day I decided to meet him at the range.  I brought a dozen arrows - six with max helical, six with 1 degree offset.  I also brought a dozen Savora Contender 100 - Six with ferrules bent 5 degrees (way beyond a simple wobble), six with ferrules that spun perfectly.  We put the six bent ferrules on the full helical arrows and the six straight ferrules on the 1 degree arrows.  All arrows weighed the same and had close to 13% FOC.  He then shot the entire dozen at 80 yards.  Six at a spot on the left / six at a spot on the right. 

After I got done cursing the fact that he was a WAY better shooter than I would ever be >:( >:(  I asked him to tell me which group was the better one.  After a couple minutes of putting his hands around the groups he says, "OK, I guess your right!"  :chuckle:

He now shoots the VanDyke 100.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2016, 05:51:53 PM
I really like the Magnus Stingers.  Myself and two other buddies use then and have always had good results.

The Magnus 2 blade really caught my eye, I like the idea of two blade penetration over 3! You have had success with their flight?

None of us have to change anything from field points to broadheads. 
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: SCRUBS on May 19, 2016, 06:44:41 PM
I really like the Magnus Stingers.  Myself and two other buddies use then and have always had good results.

The Magnus 2 blade really caught my eye, I like the idea of two blade penetration over 3! You have had success with their flight?

None of us have to change anything from field points to broadheads.

Are you using the 2 or 4 blade version miles?
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2016, 07:05:02 PM
I really like the Magnus Stingers.  Myself and two other buddies use then and have always had good results.

The Magnus 2 blade really caught my eye, I like the idea of two blade penetration over 3! You have had success with their flight?

None of us have to change anything from field points to broadheads.

Are you using the 2 or 4 blade version miles?

I'm using the 4.  To me it's basically a 2 with two small bleeders (or whatever you want to call them).   

They shoot straight and just pile into the target.    I zipped one through a blacktail down here in CA this past year.  Double lung pass through and the deer made it about 20yds.  They leave some pretty big openings.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Tjv28 on May 19, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
I like the G5 strikers. Super sharp and durable. Seem dead nuts on accuracy as well
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Z_rock01 on May 20, 2016, 01:13:27 PM
I would recommend the Dirt Nap Gear Broad heads. When you look at broad heads, your looking for a few things. Are they Sharp, the Durability, tuning, over all quality, and for me, do the manufacture stand behind there product. Dirt Nap Gear performs extremely well in all those categories. One of the best warranties in the business. You bend, brake or make the broad head unusable, send it back and they send you a new one, no questions asked.

Which ever way you go, good luck   :tup:
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: MLBowhunting on May 20, 2016, 08:34:10 PM
Shoot a local manufactured head from Washington.  Support one of the most knowledgeable archer's I have ever met.  Shoot a RAD head and if you ever had a problem with it he would make it right. 
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: follow maggie on May 21, 2016, 08:31:12 AM
I shoot the magnus stinger, too, and like them. They fly with field points and leave a nice blood trail.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: AlbinoRhino on May 21, 2016, 08:46:42 AM
I shoot the magnus stinger, too, and like them. They fly with field points and leave a nice blood trail.

If you shoot vain out how do u place your Magnus vertical or in line parallel with main vain
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: follow maggie on May 21, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
I've never paid attention to it, Albino
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: hogslayer on May 21, 2016, 03:14:54 PM
I am a slick trick standard 100 grain shooter myself.  I really want to pick up some of RADSAVS broad heads because I believe the Deisgns and build along with attention to detail make them a better browd head.  But I have 16 slick tricks I need to either shoot into trees or kill elk with first.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: kodiak 907 on May 21, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
Anyone ever tried the Kudu points? They look deadly.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: RadSav on May 21, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
Anyone ever tried the Kudu points? They look deadly.

I can't remember who, but someone gave me a few to play with at a show.  Seem nice enough if you like two blade heads.  They bend like most two blades do but weren't at all bad.  Trailing edges were a nice touch.  Oregon company.  Haven't met them that I know of, but always nice to support PNW folks.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: demontang on May 21, 2016, 10:02:05 PM
I've made the switch to savora heads the madman are great heads for lower cost, they go up in price and all are great heads worth a look for sure :tup:
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: RadSav on May 21, 2016, 10:54:04 PM
But I have 16 slick tricks I need to either shoot into trees or kill elk with first.

MLBowhunting's brother can show you how to destroy those in no time at all!  I believe he is called the hairless rocky chuck master. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 21, 2016, 11:28:16 PM
RADs advice is spot on :tup:  Get a well tuned bow, decent arrow with proper fletching and good FOC and watch magic happen. With my setup last year, I played with a dozen different heads. Some old left over stuff, some borrowed from buddies, some bought and payed for.  Played being a key word. No spin testing, no critical eye, just messing around. I would have shot any of them for the season from a flight standpoint. Some may have taken a bit more "tweaking" to get perfect and spin testing gives me that "mental" edge. But all flew either right with or close enough to my field tips that very minor adjustments would be needed to head to the field.

Disclaimer: Shameless plug time. I shot the Savora TI-Con and can not say enough about them. And from hwat I hear the new blades will make it even better. These heads held Zero to at least a hundred yards, flew like darts, spun like tops and cut like scalpels. I shot them inadvertantly into stumps ( they are to expensive to ruin on purpose. But I have a fondness for 15 dollar braised grouse and sauteed mushrooms, and rabbit and dumplings :chuckle:), bounced them on gravel roads, shot them into dirt banks, and through some big game animals. never lost a blade and all except one could have been shot again. Skipping down logging road on pit run will ruin the best of blades. And wreck a great arrow. Want to know what it wont hurt? a Savora titanium ferrule. No visible damage to the tip and new blades and spinning like new. I shot a cow on a steep quartering angle and hit her low, the head sliced, not broke, sliced 2 ribs as it entered the cavity. Im convinced a steeper blade angle or less durable head could very well have affected the outcome of a perfect hunt.  Great head. Dont let the "old school" look fool you. These aint your grandpas broadheads!
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: LeviD1 on May 22, 2016, 09:14:23 AM
I love my shuttle T's. But whichever fixed head you use get rid of those schwackers as well. I bust through any shoulder I ever hit with my shuttle t's and had a bad experience last year with schwackers that I know my shuttle t would have got the job done on a huge buck. Ill never use expandable again.
Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 22, 2016, 09:21:46 AM
But I have 16 slick tricks I need to either shoot into trees or kill elk with first.

MLBowhunting's brother can show you how to destroy those in no time at all!  I believe he is called the hairless rocky chuck master. :chuckle:
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Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 25, 2016, 11:22:58 PM
I am a slick trick standard 100 grain shooter myself.  I really want to pick up some of RADSAVS broad heads because I believe the Deisgns and build along with attention to detail make them a better browd head.  But I have 16 slick tricks I need to either shoot into trees or kill elk with first.
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Title: Re: Broadhead advice
Post by: Vandal44 on June 28, 2016, 02:47:20 PM
I am a huge fan of the Savora heads not sure what ones I am shooting but they fly awesome.  I took a cow Elk at 30 yards with my bow that maxed out at 50# and it blow right though her.  Shot an ok buck at 25 yards with my crossbow that shoots a 500 grain arrow at 377 FPS, perfect arrow flight out to 80 yards. The last deer was a big doe. 

I am amazed at how accurate the Savora heads are, keep in mind my bow is very well tuned.  The Savora head will be in my quiver for a long time

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