Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: chaney on May 19, 2016, 08:42:44 PM
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Hey I'm wanting to upgrade to a 7 pin sight for my bow. Any suggestions on which brand to get or preferences? Thank you
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I've always shot Spot Hogg, but have heard great things about Black Gold and their new stuff looks pretty nice.
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I have a spot Hogg on my bow and love it. But I have shot both black gold and acxel on my friends bows. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. I went with spot Hogg mainly based on durability, but I did really like the Montana black gold.
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Save yourself some head ache and either get a black gold single pin slider. Or the three pin slider. You will have your 20-40 on your pins, but can move it down if you see a monster bull that is to far to shoot but you can't pass it up so you crank that baby down and give her hell.
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I love my spot Hogg 7 pin for my hunting bow. Trophy taker is making a real nice but expensive pin sight that the housing flips out and turns into a single pin mover for your longer shots.
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Just checked it out online again when I said expensive I was under estimating $350 to $455 depending on what model :yike:
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Haven't met a 7 pin shooter yet that hasn't experiences some target panic over time. I feel bad for every single person who buys one. Friends don't let friends shoot 7!!
I do like hogslayer's advise. 1, 3 or 4 pin sliders are a much better way to go IMO. When I shot three pin I set it for 30, 40 & 50. Killed lots of grouse at 15-20 without ever making a pin move. Pretty easy to just aim a couple inches low. If you don't have the time to adjust for shots beyond 50 you probably didn't have the time to make a good shot anyway.
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I just switched to a spot Hogg fast Eddie XL single pin. Love it. Shooting tighter groups. Easy to focus on one pin. I've read, in the woods, set it to 30 and know/practice where your arrow hits at 20 and 40, which shouldn't be too much off of 30.
(I actually have the "double" single pin for those instances an animal moves after your dialed in and drawn. I haven't practiced it with it much yet to know what the yardage reference will be on it tho.
I couldn't imagine having 7 pins crammed into my site window.
id sure try out a single pin before ya pull the trigger on a new site.
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That is exactly what I did. Set it at 30 and I shoot 4" high at 30 and 4" low at 40. I will sometimes find out where 40 is and move random distances closer to the target and I am within a fiat size just by holding over or under.
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With single pins I always figure out where my the top of the bubble hits for yardage. With dovetail adjustable sights I'll often adjust sight length to fine tune the bubble yardage. Even with a single pin set for 30 yards you can usually be deadly accurate out to 50 without making adjustments. Just gap between bubble and pin.
Most of my turkeys that are shot once at 10 or 12 yards are shot with the sight set at 24-25 yards. The ones I do not drop in their tracks I usually put a second arrow into at 40-45. Never adjust the sight. A couple years ago I had one fly on me and land 88 yards out. Was nice to dial in that second shot for exactly 88 yards and drop him where he stood. Somehow I seem better at hitting them in the right spot at longer range than I am hitting them at 10 flippin' yards. :rolleyes:
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ok thanks everyone for the advice. I'll do some more research and see what I find, thank you
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IQ sites not worth the money. I have one that is accurate enough but not enough fine adjustments to the site. I got it at the bargain cave cabelas. The retinal lock must only for for the Factory representatives not *censored* bow hunters. I have a trophy ridge again bought at bargain cave cabelas. the auto adjustment range is way too dependent on the FPS of the arrow. Still I have it on an Instigator for my back yard and back up bow and love the shoot it. light bow and site shoot all day at 50 lbs. I have the old seven pit Spott Hogg and it held up well for several seasons. Smaller pins a little tricky in low light but for hunting in eastern washington you need a reliable site out to 70 yards. plan on selling a kidney to get a Hogg Father for my Bowtech carbon.
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If you don't like the idea of a slider you can still gain a lot by eliminating your 20 pin on a five pin sight. Some people still struggle with TP using a 5 pin, but the mind is much more at ease with the balance of only five. The 5 pin I use when hunting in tough terrain is set for 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70. Other than some 3-D shoots not much need to go beyond 70 anyway. Again, I know where my bubble is sighted so even then I can gap rather well further than 70. All about practice -30 and +70.
The last year we were allowed to shoot spikes in the Winston I tagged an impossibly stubborn spike with some good luck and some bad luck. My bow at the time was a Hoyt shooting about 235 fps with 2115 shafts. Made a nice stalk to 25 yards. Shot was right behind the shoulder but penetration was poor after a solid rib hit. He ran ten yards and stopped. Second arrow hit one rib back at 35 yards. Also a solid rib strike, poor penetration, arrow cut the first arrow in half. He ran up hill and stopped once again at 80 yards almost straight away. I snuck the third arrow up into the chest the long way. Penetration was good and with the uphill angle cut the second arrow in half. All three arrows failing to reach the right lung.
He bailed off the mountain and headed for the Green River (Boundary). I got to a clear shooting lane before he hit the river. Ranged the trees at the bank and when he came into the open I knew he was at about 123 yards. Using the bottom of the pin guard (I knew was 118) I held high and put a fourth arrow completely through his chest. To my displeasure he ran out into the middle of the river and collapsed. Luckily he came to rest on a sand bar about 100 yards down river.
The story emphasizes how, with a little practice, you can expand the limitations of a five pin sight without the need for unnecessary clutter. Sliders are really nice - I like them a lot! But if you don't like them or want more durability a five pin fixed can be darn near as good.
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sweet picture. love the bow cam just sitting in the water.
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Trebark. Classic camo there, bud.
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sweet picture. love the bow cam just sitting in the water.
Those old laminated Hoyt limbs are pretty dang hard to beat. That sight is an old Harry Hamm 5 pin. It was a great sight. Very similar to the Sure-Loc Lethal Weapon of today. Not many people used them because they were too expensive...$68.99!! I've kept that sight locked away in a safe place. Just in case I ever decided to get in the sight business it would be the basis for design ideas.
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Thats an amazing/cool story. I also like it that u got it with an old bow like that. I think it would very cool to have and hunt with an old compound. Its cool to think that an older bow like that was in a magazine one day talking about its state-of-the-art characteristics and stuff. Thanks for the story
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That's not an old bow to me! :chuckle: Only real difference between that bow and those of today is the brace height, grip diameter and limb length. If this were my thread I'd go on and on about how great that bow was/is. I've been thinking of bringing it out of retirement this year.
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I've been shooting one of those Trophy Taker sights. They're not cheap but are built solid and are well designed. The housing does NOT have to be flipped back to adjust the sliding pin but it does make things less cluttered for shooting longer distances. Depending on how far you want to shoot and not have to use holdover with the single pin will help you decide what housing to use but the with the standard housing you could dial it out to 80 or 90 yards pretty easily. I got one of the 6 pin versions in the oblong housing so I can use it for practicing out further but the nice thing is my 20-60 yard pins never change with it like the multi pin sliders do. Lots of cool sights out there these days that can get you going a long ways out there with out having to use 7 pins and dealing with all that clutter in your sight.
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I recently got a mbg 4 pin slider and love it. Nice to have fixed pins from 20-50 but still be able to shoot 100yds or longer with the same sight. I love not having all the extra pins.
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I have both a two pin MBG and just got a four pin version and dove tail. This is the best of both worlds :tup:
KM
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Recently put a spot Hogg seven pin on my Hoyt and really wish I had gone with the single pin. To much clutter with the seven pins.
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Black gold 5 pin movers work well , g5 two pin slider has worked well hunting and lately I have been playing with a throphy Ridge React . Liking it so far.
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sweet thanks for all your advice
