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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: Skyvalhunter on June 08, 2016, 05:30:32 AM

Title: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 08, 2016, 05:30:32 AM: Well its out the Draft EA for Motorized Travel Management Available for Review is at:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=46467
There are several alternatives for Chelan, Cle Elm, Entiat, Methow, Naches, Tonasket, Wenatchee ranger districts. Of coarse this has to go thru the comment period, etc. If you want certain areas to be open to your hiking, ATV, motorcycle use make your comments heard. Enjoy
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: X-Force on June 08, 2016, 06:56:33 AM: Tag for later
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: MADMAX on June 08, 2016, 07:05:16 AM: yea Id say
gonna take some studying and enlarging
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: CP on June 08, 2016, 07:05:36 AM: Maybe I’m not reading this correctly but there appear to be large gaps in the proposed WATV routes. Are we supposed to ride a mile or so then load the machine and truck it to the next spot then ride some more? Looks hosed up to me.

I also noticed that where the FS road goes through private land there is no designation, could it be the FS has no authority for that part of the road that passes through private land?
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: bearpaw on June 08, 2016, 07:16:00 AM: Request that all motorized vehicles should be allowed on all forest roads designated for motorized travel.

Quote from: CP on June 08, 2016, 07:05:36 AM
I also noticed that where the FS road goes through private land there is no designation, could it be the FS has no authority for that part of the road that passes through private land?

That may be a county road, in that case depending on the county, it may be open to all types of motorized travel already.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: CP on June 08, 2016, 07:22:21 AM: Quote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2016, 07:16:00 AM
Request that all motorized vehicles should be allowed on all forest roads designated for motorized travel.

Quote from: CP on June 08, 2016, 07:05:36 AM
I also noticed that where the FS road goes through private land there is no designation, could it be the FS has no authority for that part of the road that passes through private land?

That may be a county road, in that case depending on the county, it may be open to all types of motorized travel already.

I'm referring to the white areas on the map I posted above. These are private land "islands" but the FS road passes though them.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: CP on June 08, 2016, 07:26:37 AM: Here's a better example:
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 09, 2016, 05:40:14 AM: Quote from: bearpaw on June 08, 2016, 07:16:00 AM
Request that all motorized vehicles should be allowed on all forest roads designated for motorized travel.

quote author=CP ]

Second that, if you vote for takeaways you will NEVER get them back and eventually they will whittle into your preference mode of travel
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Eli346 on June 09, 2016, 07:22:29 AM: I've been watching this. I hope they don't change this as last year they opened them up and then closed them within a month. You can guess who had a part in blocking it but it wasn't us!
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 09, 2016, 07:41:06 AM: Then throw in the fact that they intend to close the Entiat to any access for 5 years after the fires.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Naches Sportsman on June 09, 2016, 09:25:23 PM: Apparently maps aren't available yet. Hard to read the pdf versions, but the majority of the forest will be closed to cross country vehicle travel after the travel management goes into effect.

Also, I have began reading the wildlife portion of the environmental assessment and the topic on wolves is quite disturbing.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: netcoyote on June 22, 2016, 08:08:02 AM: tag
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: timberfaller on June 22, 2016, 08:35:32 AM: Had this emailed to me yesterday.

https://cara.ecosystem-management.org/Public/CommentInput?Project=46467

"Public meetings" have been scheduled, agenda's are in place, rant to your hearts content!!

*Kittitas County Event Center in Ellensburg, WA on June 22
* Apple Annies in Cashmere, WA on June 23
* Okanogan PUD, in Okanogan, WA building on June 24

Just remember your fighting the FEDS who are controlled by Eco-terriost checkbooks/law suits!! and Senator's who are paid by Lobbyist!
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: timberfaller on June 24, 2016, 05:25:26 PM: Well, the meetings are just open house type meeting. Maps and PR by USFS rangers and other employee's.

IF your concerned about what is happening about future use of ATV's on YOUR forest, DO THE LINK and respond!!!

The other is by phone or snail mail. :hello:
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 07, 2016, 05:58:23 AM: Looking at this District I suggest we vote for plan "D". The thing is people don't realize that a lot of the trails are cleared out by the motorcycle riders. Recently there was 2 work party weekends put together by the Coulee Riders to clear out trail like Foggy Dew, South Navarre, etc. Foggy dew was a mess with lots of down falls.
Send your comments to okawen-travel-management@fs.fed.us
The deadline is tomorrow
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 07, 2016, 10:33:57 AM: bump
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Mudman on July 07, 2016, 11:01:59 AM: Recently in Rimrock forest area and spoke with FS officer. We brought our utv's. He told me we could travel the roads between trails but not to just ride roads in general as they are not allowed. He claimed a travel plan is almost complete that would solve this issue and allow for everybody to have access including us. He was very serious, respectful and understanding which I appreciated. We did as he asked and had a good time on Louie way trail and pickle prairie.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 07, 2016, 01:39:09 PM: Well that sounds positive as long as there wasn't other options in the plan to do with riding UTV's all together. The greenies seem to have a lot of influence and quite the networking unlike us.
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: haus on August 07, 2016, 08:44:50 PM: Quote from: Mudman on July 07, 2016, 11:01:59 AM
Recently in Rimrock forest area and spoke with FS officer. We brought our utv's. He told me we could travel the roads between trails but not to just ride roads in general as they are not allowed. He claimed a travel plan is almost complete that would solve this issue and allow for everybody to have access including us. He was very serious, respectful and understanding which I appreciated. We did as he asked and had a good time on Louie way trail and pickle prairie.
That's the first I've heard of a FS officer directly approving that type of use in the Rimrock area. My experience has been the complete opposite. We'd putt down the edge of the road to the next trailhead, but every time they saw us we were told to get off and push :dunno:
Title: Re: USFS proposed travel management plan
Post by: Mudman on August 07, 2016, 09:24:48 PM: Ya I thought he was really a straight up guy. Serious yet real about the crazy stupid rules. He told us the regs but also said a new plan is almost done which will allow this. Nice to talk to intelligent real people not some out of school by the book punk with attitude.