Post by: luvmystang67 on June 08, 2016, 01:18:25 PM
How deep do you find them? Sounds like they mud critters? Now I want to eat one.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 08, 2016, 01:26:59 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on June 08, 2016, 02:40:49 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 08, 2016, 02:42:41 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on June 08, 2016, 02:46:50 PM
Where are they listed in the regs?
Look at the 2016 regs... the crab section sets size restrictions and limits for snow crabs... well "Tanner" crab technically.
Post by: Encore 280 on June 08, 2016, 02:52:53 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 08, 2016, 03:22:50 PM
I always thought they were different.
Post by: Woodchuck on June 08, 2016, 03:24:29 PM
Is a tanner crab the same thing as a snow crab?I always thought that there were like three species of crab that get labeled "snow crab" when they roll out on your plate. :dunno:
I always thought they were different.
Post by: C-Money on June 08, 2016, 03:26:16 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on June 08, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Post by: chester on June 08, 2016, 03:35:39 PM
Now anyone have any ideas on how to catch them? And where they are in the sound? Should you change to a different pot? I think it'd be fun to bring home a limit of tanners on top of Dungeness .
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Post by: Woodchuck on June 08, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
Snows, could be Tanners, Opilio or Bairdi?That is what I was told at some point. :dunno:
This post is not being stated as fact, just something I was told once. :tup:
Post by: chester on June 08, 2016, 03:44:02 PM
That is correct , they just lump all of them together when they go to market. Apparently "snow crab " sounds more appealing then tanner or bairdi to consumers.Snows, could be Tanners, Opilio or Bairdi?That is what I was told at some point. :dunno:
This post is not being stated as fact, just something I was told once. :tup:
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Post by: jackelope on June 08, 2016, 03:47:06 PM
They specifically say tanner crab in the update unless I missed something?
Now anyone have any ideas on how to catch them? And where they are in the sound? Should you change to a different pot? I think it'd be fun to bring home a limit of tanners on top of Dungeness .
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Post by: chester on June 08, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
That's kind of what I was afraid of.They specifically say tanner crab in the update unless I missed something?
Now anyone have any ideas on how to catch them? And where they are in the sound? Should you change to a different pot? I think it'd be fun to bring home a limit of tanners on top of Dungeness .
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Post by: NRA4LIFE on June 08, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on June 08, 2016, 04:01:56 PM
This should be part of your new disclaimer, totally cracks me up. I might even use it. I think I applies to 50% of what I post and 95% of that is true. :chuckle:Snows, could be Tanners, Opilio or Bairdi?That is what I was told at some point. :dunno:
This post is not being stated as fact, just something I was told once. :tup:
Post by: Mfowl on June 08, 2016, 10:32:38 PM
Post by: Mfowl on June 08, 2016, 10:43:20 PM
If snow crab applies to all the species listed above then they are a deep water species. They fish all the above mentioned crabs on deadliest catch and they fish hundreds of feet deep, like 3-500'. You might check out the Alaska Outdoors Forum, there is probably some info there since they have a recreational tanner crab fishery in Alaska.
I found a thread quickly on the Alaska Outdoors Forum about Tanner's. It suggested finding a muddy bottom in atleast 30 fathoms but more like 50 fathoms. Apparently you need specific pots for them, I couldn't see the pics as I'm not a member there. I'll bet there is plenty more info you just need to scroll through the back pages of the shell fishing forum. That was just the first thread I opened. Good luck, report back if you give it a try!
Post by: jmscon on June 08, 2016, 11:04:10 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chionoecetes_bairdi
180-300' is a long way down if you don't have a puller! I've hand hauled spot prawn pots before, not much fun! Daily limit of six sounds like something to look forward to!!
Post by: Mfowl on June 08, 2016, 11:07:37 PM
Post by: chester on June 10, 2016, 03:10:24 AM
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Post by: wildweeds on June 10, 2016, 07:12:48 AM
Post by: luvmystang67 on June 10, 2016, 10:19:27 AM
I know someone who commercial test fished them last year in the San juans, there are Lots and LOTS of them. As has been said they are deep, he fished them at 400 feet. I saw them in a live tank at the Seafood outfit by my house. They are opilio . Don't worry they won't be bountiful once the natives claim their 50 percent.
Was this all near bellingham bay as mentioned in the research articles I've seen? Test fishery for commercial?
Post by: wildweeds on June 10, 2016, 04:56:36 PM
I know someone who commercial test fished them last year in the San juans, there are Lots and LOTS of them. As has been said they are deep, he fished them at 400 feet. I saw them in a live tank at the Seafood outfit by my house. They are opilio . Don't worry they won't be bountiful once the natives claim their 50 percent.
Was this all near bellingham bay as mentioned in the research articles I've seen? Test fishery for commercial?
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 11, 2016, 06:12:45 PM
Post by: snake on June 11, 2016, 08:13:16 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 12, 2016, 10:07:29 AM
Post by: lokidog on June 12, 2016, 10:19:21 AM
what is the bio mass?
Is actually the mass of all living things in an area and would include starfish, urchins, prawns, crabs, shrimp, the little crawly thinks that get in your bait, plankton, fish, worms, etc.
Before the starfish die-off, one reason for restricting the size of the entry holes on shrimp pots was to keep the sun stars out. From our experience locally, the sun stars seem to be pretty much gone. Also, be aware, depending on design, the larger the hole, the easier it is for critters to find their way out.
Post by: CastleRocker on June 12, 2016, 11:07:15 AM
Used to fish them commercially. WAY before Marco came out with the King Coiler, there were no cranes, and before it was the "Deadliest Catch". Back then it was just what you fish for between Blackcod in the fall, and Halibut in the spring.
Post by: snake on June 12, 2016, 06:12:48 PM
Post by: chester on June 12, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
so biomass is a large mass of shrimp or crab?Yes for the most part
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Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 12, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
Post by: westy661 on January 12, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
Been thinking about targeting these Tanners when crabbing reopens. Living in the Bellingham area and LFS doesn't carry the Ladner Tanner pots, or at least I haven't seen them there. Did see that there is an outfit called Dungenous Gear Works in the Arlington area that may have good tanner crabs, but their phone lines are dead and no response to email. Any leads on a source?
Thanks,
Post by: jmscon on January 12, 2018, 12:25:08 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 12, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
so biomass is a large mass of shrimp or crab?
We always called them a ball of crab. They ball up for protection and the mass sort of rolls like a ball. Here's a ball of King crab. The balls are usually made up of crab of a similar age group.
Tanner crab aren't always deep. When I lived in Kodiak we'd subsistence fish for them and King crab right in front of the Dog Bay harbor in 10-15 fathoms. We'd get them there in the spring and summer and early fall.
Post by: Born2late on January 12, 2018, 02:23:58 PM
You'll talk to flo or lance.
Post by: westy661 on January 12, 2018, 03:35:51 PM
Post by: lokidog on January 12, 2018, 03:41:49 PM
Hi - Just spoke to Lance at DGWorks. They did make some pots, but then stopped making them, but mostly made a few batches for AK commercial use. He has had a few calls to make more, so he is thinking if he gets a few more requests, he will make a batch. One a side note, he seems like a super nice dude.
Did he give any idea of the cost for them?
Post by: westy661 on January 12, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Did he give any idea of the cost for them?
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He did not. He was kinda mulling over in his head what the next design would be for a rec trap. He said his last batch were a dome structure that wasn't very good for small boat deck space and the commercial pots were 50lbs which is a bit unwieldy on small boats. The dome structure was an attempt to comply with max volume allowed in the regs. So he was thinking a 35lbs ish conical shape with the top shoot door style. That being said, he was still gauging the interest to do it our not.
Post by: Stein on January 12, 2018, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on January 13, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=BC+Box+Crab+fishing#id=2&vid=fb33783be518baf85174c30f45aa56cd&action=click
Very much off limits, but I have eaten them up in BC as a buddy is diver and they are unreal.....Scallops? same deal