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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: PA BEN on June 10, 2016, 09:40:48 AM
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I put in w 5 points knowing I wouldn't draw. Well I did. I've hunted the Tucannon so I know what kind of country I'm in for. It's my understanding it's a closed area so scouting is out? Is there any guides that can guide in there? Any help on this hunt would be great. Thanks
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Congrats 👍 It's going to b a fun hunt with a smoke pole.
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No licensed guides or packers in there. No scouting inside the watershed.
I assume ML is muzzleloader - Gonna be a tough hunt for sure competing with the rifle hunters.
Good luck - its beautiful country
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I drew that tag last year but with rifle. That terrain is going to make ML tough. Pm me if you have questions I'll tell you what I know.
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I drew that tag last year but with rifle. That terrain is going to make ML tough. Pm me if you have questions I'll tell you what I know.
How did you do in there last year?
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I killed a good 6x6
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Nice work on the draw. Jealous.
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I killed a good 6x6
Nice work! I think there were only 6 bulls killed in there last year. You have a picture to share??
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See if this works
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The weather was awful in there last year. Rain, wind, fog, sleet. It was hurricane type conditions. That and the terrain is just brutal.
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Nice bull joe.great work
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Congratulations on your luck! Pretty sure you can use any weapon in there for that draw. Any weapon meaning Archery, Muzzle Loader and Rifle. May your luck continue into November! :tup:
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Congratulations on your luck! Pretty sure you can use any weapon in there for that draw. Any weapon meaning Archery, Muzzle Loader and Rifle. May your luck continue into November! :tup:
Not accurate. You have to hunt with the weapon you chose. All the permit hunts happen at the same time, but if you drew with a muzzleloader permit, you hunt with your muzzleloader.
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I drew that tag last year and then buggered up my knee enough that I chose not to go knowing what the area was like. From the weather report Joe gave after his hunt my powder would have been soggy anyways.
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It will be quite a challenge with a muzzy, definitely get in shape and learn to shoot far.
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The weather in there last year literally rivaled some Tsunamis I went through when I was stationed on Okinawa.
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It will be quite a challenge with a muzzy, definitely get in shape and learn to shoot far.
Why would it be quite the challenge w a muzzleloader?
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Because you're going to be there with 39 other guys, most with a rifle. You will most likely all start from the same place. There will always be a guy one step ahead and with you limited to shooting WA legal muzzy distances, your odds are definately stacked against you. Especially for a higher end bull for the unit. As you know, the unit is all downhill in some of the steepest n deepest country you will ever hunt bulls in. With its closely monitored regulations, this stacks up as one of the most demanding hunts in the state IMO.
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Good luck
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Because you're going to be there with 39 other guys, most with a rifle. You will most likely all start from the same place. There will always be a guy one step ahead and with you limited to shooting WA legal muzzy distances, your odds are definately stacked against you. Especially for a higher end bull for the unit. As you know, the unit is all downhill in some of the steepest n deepest country you will ever hunt bulls in. With its closely monitored regulations, this stacks up as one of the most demanding hunts in the state IMO.
:yeah: And to add, the weather can really screw you. The rifle guys don't have to worry about rain blowing sideways like the muzzy guys. If I were you, I'd hit the timber and hope for a close encounter. When I was in there with a buddy we got to within 80 yards of a bull twice, it can happen, I'm not saying it's impossible at all. Just a heck of a challenge, you'll get it done. I just don't know how many bulls I'd pass, just pray for good weather.
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You still have to hunt no matter what you hunt with. I've bow hunted for elk for many years, this is the 4th time I've hunted elk w a muzzleloader. I have yet to kill an elk over a 100 yds. BTW, I will eat tag soup before I shoot a rag horn in a hell hole.
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Pm sent
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You still have to hunt no matter what you hunt with. I've bow hunted for elk for many years, this is the 4th time I've hunted elk w a muzzleloader. I have yet to kill an elk over a 100 yds. BTW, I will eat tag soup before I shoot a rag horn in a hell hole.
I love your attitude. If anyone can put one down with a smoke pole, with your determination, that will be you. Hit it hard and best of luck :tup:
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You still have to hunt no matter what you hunt with. I've bow hunted for elk for many years, this is the 4th time I've hunted elk w a muzzleloader. I have yet to kill an elk over a 100 yds. BTW, I will eat tag soup before I shoot a rag horn in a hell hole.
You're off to a good start. You'll do well. Get in shape. The best shape you can be.
Also, get a good hunting buddy who's in good shape as well. I look forward to that bull you kill.
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Will be a great hunt! :tup:
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For those of you who know the rules in the shed can a hunter hang a game camera in there during the hunt?
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For those of you who know the rules in the shed can a hunter hang a game camera in there during the hunt?
I don't see why not, as long as it's during the time you can be in there.
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There wasn't anything in the rules about game cameras when I was last in there. I would say go for it!
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For those of you who have hunted this tag, is there several access points into the shed? Kinda makes it hard to get away from the other hunters.
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Nice tag have fun
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I drew the same tag with a Muzzle loader. Have some of the same questions. Would like to find an area where there might be less rifle competition. All I know is im starting :dunno: so that Im ready to give er my best shot. Any info anyone has on areas/entry points would be much appreciated. Thanks. Planning a trip here in the next week or two to go up and drive some of the perimeter roads to get an idea of the area and where I could camp outside the shed.
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Might help if you introduced yourself, it's hard to get help here if your first post is because you drew a tag.
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The shed is not that big of an area. There will probably be rifle compatition at all
The access points, especially opening weekend
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You can scout it without going in. Several points with great views. Know your boundaries, the shed riders can be nasty. The better the spotting scope the more you will find.
Black Snake, Table Rock, Tiger Canyon (Oregon) all get you close enough for some great looks. Many great starting points from the top to get your hunt going, packing back out the top can spoil meat if the temps are against you.
Fantastic location with more rules than most.
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I know that most guys will probably not venture in to far, especially if this is their first time seeing the area. An out of shape guy wont make it to far out before he looks back and realizes he has to hike back up before dark :)
My dad drew it back in 2000 and a buddy of his who hunted it prior had went out to Green Peak. I believe that was the name of it, its been 16 years lol. Anyways, he would pack waders in with him to cross the creek and he was able to that daily until he shot his bull. He was in very good shape and he got the elk out solo, but it was a big undertaking. My dad and his cousin were to old to make that trip but they got a bull closer to border, they came in from the Blue Creek side and secured a camp spot on private land up by the border. I heard rumors that you cant camp there any more but you may be able to park there. Worth a shot.
I think with today's muzzleloaders and sabots and some practice, you can make 175 yd shots no problem. Hopefully you have a spotter who can confirm a hit or not and help you track it. Also, start getting your legs ready, the last thing you want is to be limited by lack of preparation and being to exhausted to hunt everyday hard. Let other guys make that mistake so you can enjoy the area with less pressure! :) Looking forward to seeing the bull you get! Best of luck!
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The shed is not that big of an area. There will probably be rifle compatition at all
The access points, especially opening weekend
I didn't see another Hunter in the area I went and didn't see anybody else at my access point.
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I didn't see another Hunter in the area I went and didn't see anybody else at my access point.
How did you do? I've watched quite a few elk from the rim off blacksnake/biscuit. saw a couple good bulls pulled out of there at a camp two years ago.
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PA Ben I had the tag in 2013 great hunt to have I got my bull at 100 yards so it can be done. The hardest part of the hunt is dealing with the weather. I will b in there again this year my uncle has the tag so it should be a fun year. Good luck and get in shape I started running in April.
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I just picked up a badlands 2200 pack. I'm going to fill it up and hit the hills. I also got a new MT bike. 315 miles on it so far. I'm still 56 and my knees aren't what they used to be. You just to paste yourself.
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Paste yourself to the seat and hold on?
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
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I just picked up a badlands 2200 pack. I'm going to fill it up and hit the hills. I also got a new MT bike. 315 miles on it so far. I'm still 56 and my knees aren't what they used to be. You just to paste yourself.
You don't need to move fast, just need to be able to get yourself and the bull out. You are on the right track, come opening day you will be ready to pack that 390 bull out by yourself!
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Paste yourself to the seat and hold on?
ooops :chuckle:
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PM sent. Hope you do well with the tag, and maybe I will see you out scouting.
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New to the forum but I drew this tag as well. Really the only reason I found this forum was looking for info on the hunt. Any advice is appropriate.
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Welcome to the site....
Although I may disagree with your statement.
Any advice is appropriate.
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Ok well any (helpful) advice is appropriate hahaha
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Wow auto correct is killing me. *appreciated
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Hello guys - I drew the watershed tag this year, after 17 years of attempting..... It has been a long time coming. As a boy, I hunted around the watershed unit, during my first several years of hunting (after that, I spent the next 25 years chasing elk above the Grand Ronde River). During those first years, I recall looking down into the Shed, and thinking, you'd have to be NUTS!!! to go after an elk in that unit..... Or you would simply need to pack a fork and a knife with you, in case you shot one in the bottom. Well, I must be NUTS!!!, because here I am. I finally drew the tag, and I can't wait to get in there.
My 10 year old son and I drove up there this weekend, and he had similar initial thoughts. Here he is up on Table Rock, this weekend, looking down in, as well as a panoramic view from Table Top Rock...... The weather was great.
So, my goal is to harvest a 350ish inch bull this year, and I am definitely not afraid to put in the hard work to earn it. My plan is to get a dozen, or so, scouting trips in before the season starts. To pull this off, all other summer plans have been put to the side:):):).
I would appreciate any help that the forum would offer, in my quest to harvest a big bull out of the watershed.
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Wow 17 years, this is my first time putting in for the watershed and I had 5 points.
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Wow 17 years, this is my first time putting in for the watershed and I had 5 points.
Proof, it's a crap shoot every year.....congrats
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I drew on my first year putting in too, I had 8 points.
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Wow 17 years, this is my first time putting in for the watershed and I had 5 points.
Yes, the odds are crazy. Its great that you got it with 5 points. That just means you get to start building up for that next hunt:):).
I am thinking I am going to get to get back up there in a couple of weeks. I plan to drive the lower end of the unit, do some hiking, along the boundary trail, off the end of biscuit.
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When are we going to get the paper work for this tag????? :dunno:
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When are we going to get the paper work for this tag????? :dunno:
Last year it was about a month after the draw, maybe more..
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I have not seen any paperwork yet. I was expecting to see it in the next couple of weeks.
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Good morning everyone. I am going to be heading up to the Shed, this Friday. I am planning to follow the Biscuit Ridge road, and then jump on the boundary trail that heads north, and east from the end of the road. I don't plan to spend to much time spotting (if any). I am just trying to get familiar with the unit. I will get some pictures posted early next week.
Are there any areas that I should focus on, while I am there?
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I made it back up to the shed, for a quick visit, last Friday. The weather was nice, and sure was great to be up in the hills. My original plan was to drive up biscuit ridge road, and then hike the trail that border watershed to the north. Unfortunately, when I got up there, I learned that most of that land is privately owned, and I was not able to access the shed from that point.
I did get a lot of pictures of the lower end of the unit. The first picture, below, are tracks from a cow and two calves. They were feeding next to the road. I spooked them when I came around the corner, and they dumped straight into the shed. The second picture is in the same draw that the cow/calves ran into, and is of a bull sitting in the shade. Sorry you can't see him, as I was taking pictures from my phone. He is sitting in the shade of the tree in the center of the picture. The third picture is the lower tip of green ridge (I think that is green ridge). That is some deep and steep country, and I can only hope that my conditioning will pay off. The last picture is of some camp meat that was sitting along the road. If only the season was open, and my son would have been with me...... We could have had some fresh grouse that evening :chuckle:.
I really wish I could get inside the shed, and do some much more specific scouting. There is a lot of country to cover, and it looks like there are several good pockets that will hold big bulls, once the season starts. I have a couple different strategies forming in my head, but its tough, without actually being able to get in, look around, and set up cameras. Does anyone know if the elk use the watershed for "summer range", or do the summer elsewhere?
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Anybody get your paperwork from the Fed.'s yet?
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I received my permit, but have not received any rules yet.
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Anybody get your paperwork from the Fed.'s yet?
I got mine a few weeks ago.
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Anybody get your paperwork from the Fed.'s yet?
I got mine a few weeks ago.
Are you talking your elk permit? I'm asking about the Federal watershed paperwork for the hunt.
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Sorry about that, I got my elk permit
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Anybody get your paperwork from the Fed.'s yet?
I got mine a few weeks ago.
Are you talking your elk permit? I'm asking about the Federal watershed paperwork for the hunt.
it just came today :tup:
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Going to head down for the weekend to see what I'm infor on this hunt. I have over 400 miles on my bike and I started hiking with my new Badlands 2200 pack. I'm walking my trail cam route it's a little over 2 miles. Just 35 lbs now, I plan on working up to 100 lbs before this hunt. I've never tried trekking poles until now. My wife uses them and talked me into giving them a try. They sure help.
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Awesome Pa Ben. Looking forward to see how this pans out. :tup:
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Good work, all that training will pay off when you are pulling out that monster from the shed!
I am only 30 but I am going to give the trekking poles a try this year. I think they will be a huge help!
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Anybody get your paperwork from the Fed.'s yet?
I got mine a few weeks ago.
Hey guys - I have been out of town the last couple of weeks. I got home yesterday, and my paperwork was in the mailbox 8). Definitely can't wait for opening day.
My son and I are going to do weekend trip, to the shed, in early September. I'll spend a lot of time glassing (or as much time as my 10 yr old son will have patience for :chuckle:). I will try to get some good quality pictures through the scope. Although, I am not always successful with that.
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Just so you know the biscuit side of the shed the boundary trail is on private land. A buddy drew it and was walking the trail and the shed guy told him he was on private property on that end.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
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Get the onX Hunt app and use it. It will keep you out of trouble with the land owners and shed rider. Download the sattelite map on your device, study it and compare what you see scouting the edges with what the map shows.
Going to the Oregon side and looking back across with a spottervhelps too.
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Thanks for the tip Firedogg. I'll check the App out, and add it to the arsenal.
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The more I research this hunt the more I find out how hard of a hunt this is. I talked to a guy who grew up hunting the Blues and he said he will not put in for this hunt. It's one of the steepest hunts in the blues. So, that being said I hope to be in the best shape I've been in in awhile. I'm down 10 lbs and packed 70 lbs 2 miles the other day. I had to cut back on the wt because I almost blew out a calf muscle. Too much too fast. All in all I should be able to give this tag a good go at it.
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with you muzzy, make sure you cover the barrel with a balloon or a rubber glove.. keeps water and stuff out.... and also not sure if its legal. ( says it has to be exposed to the weather), but cover the breech with a glove or a cut balloon to keep dirt and water out. ( make sure you take them off after the hunt. do not forget to take them off or you can kiss that barrel good bye.)
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Good job PA Ben! The terrain in this unit is no joke. It is very steep and rocky, and the only way in is downhill, leaving only an uphill climb to get out :chuckle:. The few times that my fearless 10 year old son has joined me in scouting this unit, he has told me I'm "nuts". My conditioning work for this hunt has been as follows:
1. Running 15 - 20 miles per week
2. Crossfit training 4 times a week
3. 4 mile hike, with 1000 ft vertical gain, and weighted pack once per week.
My goal is to be in good enough shape to go deep into the unit everyday of the hunting season. The fact that we have to be out of the unit, every night, makes the conditioning requirement , for this hunt, so extreme.
Keep up the hard work!
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I would strongly recommend this late in the game skipping any running and sticking with the crossfit and loading up a 60-100# pack and spend the bulk of your training time in as vertical of country as you can get in. As mentioned, having to be out each night is big chore in this unit when you are trying to get as deep as you can. Vertical loaded pack training is the key. :twocents:
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
. You are gonna be fine.....it's about pace and persistence at this point. No doubt it's gonna hurt, just pick a pace and stay persistent, will feel real easy to pull the plug at some point during the hunt, but your mental toughness will win. Enjoy yourself, pretty cool experience indeed.
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
. You are gonna be fine.....it's about pace and persistence at this point. No doubt it's gonna hurt, just pick a pace and stay persistent, will feel real easy to pull the plug at some point during the hunt, but your mental toughness will win. Enjoy yourself, pretty cool experience indeed.
I don't know if it's true but I heard a lot of hunters go home 2 to 3 days into this hunt because they are just too beat up.
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
. You are gonna be fine.....it's about pace and persistence at this point. No doubt it's gonna hurt, just pick a pace and stay persistent, will feel real easy to pull the plug at some point during the hunt, but your mental toughness will win. Enjoy yourself, pretty cool experience indeed.
I don't know if it's true but I heard a lot of hunters go home 2 to 3 days into this hunt because they are just too beat up.
Ben, have you made a trip down to scout or at least look at the country?
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
. You are gonna be fine.....it's about pace and persistence at this point. No doubt it's gonna hurt, just pick a pace and stay persistent, will feel real easy to pull the plug at some point during the hunt, but your mental toughness will win. Enjoy yourself, pretty cool experience indeed.
I don't know if it's true but I heard a lot of hunters go home 2 to 3 days into this hunt because they are just too beat up.
It's true. Don't trash yourself on the opening day. This hunt is a marathon. Be patient and take your time. Don't be afraid to hike out in the dark and enjoy yourself in that awesome canyon!!
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
. You are gonna be fine.....it's about pace and persistence at this point. No doubt it's gonna hurt, just pick a pace and stay persistent, will feel real easy to pull the plug at some point during the hunt, but your mental toughness will win. Enjoy yourself, pretty cool experience indeed.
I don't know if it's true but I heard a lot of hunters go home 2 to 3 days into this hunt because they are just too beat up.
Yep, went down a couple of weeks ago. I might go down the middle of next month to find camping spots.
Ben, have you made a trip down to scout or at least look at the country?
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Awesome, you keep training and scouting; it'll come together.
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
My dad and I drew this tag when he was about your age. He was not in real good shape, so he hunted close to the top. He had his chance, but did not connect. I bust my butt every day and went in deep. I did not see a bull within shooting distance. The elk are where you find them, not neccisarily in the bottom.
Just don't make the mistake we did and camp on the Oregon side and hike in every morning. I don't remember how far the hike in was, but it took way too much energy and time.
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2 months isn't late in the game and I've been at scene March when I bought a new MT Bike. I just stepped it up when I drew this tag. My problem is pushing myself, at age 56 I want to climb the hills like I'm in my 20s.
My dad and I drew this tag when he was about your age. He was not in real good shape, so he hunted close to the top. He had his chance, but did not connect. I bust my butt every day and went in deep. I did not see a bull within shooting distance. The elk are where you find them, not neccisarily in the bottom.
Just don't make the mistake we did and camp on the Oregon side and hike in every morning. I don't remember how far the hike in was, but it took way too much energy and time.
It's about a mile and a half to the Washington border. I'm not going to camp in just one spot, going light on the camp and sleep in the back of my pickup.
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Ben
Love your attitude. I'm no spring chicken at 53. keep doing the best you can with conditioning.
Your mental toughness will carry you thru. Seen plenty of so called young tough guys wimp out quickly on a rough hunt. It's about the adventure.
Go big and cap off on a nice one👊💥👊
Bryan
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watching this this sounds good. I've never had the chance at this hunt and always wanted to. Sucks one can't back pack and stay in that unit, that's what I wanted to do when I was younger. GL all yeah pretty much all strait up and down and Table rock nice pics. On that road up to table rock there used to be a small cabin or building there not sure it's still there or not? Been several years since I've been there. But my Grandad's friend said he used to stay there and run that trail long ago. Early 1900's or so. he was a cool old man.
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PA Ben - are you planning on being up there the whole season?
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Looking at your post and all your factors, I would recommend killing the first legal bull you can, and go in with the mindset of having a fun hunt.
My experience with Mill Creek.
I killed my bull late in the day of the 5th day hunting in the shed a couple years ago. It took me 2 more days to pack the bull out, totaling 7 straight days of in and out. Every morning consisted of a sketchy four-wheeler ride, a hike up to the intake trail, another mile or so up the intake trail, and then we bailed off the trail to go into the shed where the real hiking started. Every evening we would of course reverse this segmented access trip. Our hikes were all day long, up and down, with hours of glassing open spots in the timber. We saw bulls everyday, but nothing that got me excited (I was looking for a 330 plus caliber bull). Once I killed my bull it took another 3 days to get the boned out meat out (A smaller load by me and partner the evening he was killed, the next day my partner had to leave - it was planned and he had helped already for 6 days, I did one load alone the second day, and the third day I finished up the pack out with another friend. Also worth mentioning, while boning the bull out I speared my razor knife through my left index finger requiring a trip to the Walla Walla ER for cleaning and 6 stitches. I got to the ER around 0200 that night. I was back to the cabin by 0500, woke up around 0900 to make the solo trip on day 2.
This hunt/pack out is the most physically demanding experience I have ever had. A few years before this hunt I killed a bull in Wyoming 7 miles from the truck on a solo trip. It took me 6 trips over two and half days to get the boned out meat, cape, and antlers out (November). The elevation was minimal and the terrain for the most part was decent for hiking. That's 35 miles of hiking after the kill. I don't have much recollection of the physical effort I had to put into this Wyoming hunt / pack out, but I will NEVER forget the physical effort that was put into my shed elk hunt.
Good luck to you PA BEN and have fun.
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PA Ben - are you planning on being up there the whole season?
Yes
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Looking at your post and all your factors, I would recommend killing the first legal bull you can, and go in with the mindset of having a fun hunt.
My experience with Mill Creek.
I killed my bull late in the day of the 5th day hunting in the shed a couple years ago. It took me 2 more days to pack the bull out, totaling 7 straight days of in and out. Every morning consisted of a sketchy four-wheeler ride, a hike up to the intake trail, another mile or so up the intake trail, and then we bailed off the trail to go into the shed where the real hiking started. Every evening we would of course reverse this segmented access trip. Our hikes were all day long, up and down, with hours of glassing open spots in the timber. We saw bulls everyday, but nothing that got me excited (I was looking for a 330 plus caliber bull). Once I killed my bull it took another 3 days to get the boned out meat out (A smaller load by me and partner the evening he was killed, the next day my partner had to leave - it was planned and he had helped already for 6 days, I did one load alone the second day, and the third day I finished up the pack out with another friend. Also worth mentioning, while boning the bull out I speared my razor knife through my left index finger requiring a trip to the Walla Walla ER for cleaning and 6 stitches. I got to the ER around 0200 that night. I was back to the cabin by 0500, woke up around 0900 to make the solo trip on day 2.
This hunt/pack out is the most physically demanding experience I have ever had. A few years before this hunt I killed a bull in Wyoming 7 miles from the truck on a solo trip. It took me 6 trips over two and half days to get the boned out meat, cape, and antlers out (November). The elevation was minimal and the terrain for the most part was decent for hiking. That's 35 miles of hiking after the kill. I don't have much recollection of the physical effort I had to put into this Wyoming hunt / pack out, but I will NEVER forget the physical effort that was put into my shed elk hunt.
Good luck to you PA BEN and have fun.
My goal is a good 6x6 350 or over. I will not shoot a rag horn on this hunt unless its a cake walk pack out. I've eaten elk tag soup before and I think this tag will make the best soup after this hunt. I will take my time and enjoy the hunt and the opportunity for a chance at a nice bull. This is my first real elk hunt as a sober man. 4 1/2 years. No booze in camp just pur fun. Also my son-in-law will be with me, I have taken him under my arm and helped harvest his first buck 2 years ago and his first archery buck last year. He live on the west side and will be bow hunting elk and deer over there this year.
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Looking at your post and all your factors, I would recommend killing the first legal bull you can, and go in with the mindset of having a fun hunt.
My experience with Mill Creek.
I killed my bull late in the day of the 5th day hunting in the shed a couple years ago. It took me 2 more days to pack the bull out, totaling 7 straight days of in and out. Every morning consisted of a sketchy four-wheeler ride, a hike up to the intake trail, another mile or so up the intake trail, and then we bailed off the trail to go into the shed where the real hiking started. Every evening we would of course reverse this segmented access trip. Our hikes were all day long, up and down, with hours of glassing open spots in the timber. We saw bulls everyday, but nothing that got me excited (I was looking for a 330 plus caliber bull). Once I killed my bull it took another 3 days to get the boned out meat out (A smaller load by me and partner the evening he was killed, the next day my partner had to leave - it was planned and he had helped already for 6 days, I did one load alone the second day, and the third day I finished up the pack out with another friend. Also worth mentioning, while boning the bull out I speared my razor knife through my left index finger requiring a trip to the Walla Walla ER for cleaning and 6 stitches. I got to the ER around 0200 that night. I was back to the cabin by 0500, woke up around 0900 to make the solo trip on day 2.
This hunt/pack out is the most physically demanding experience I have ever had. A few years before this hunt I killed a bull in Wyoming 7 miles from the truck on a solo trip. It took me 6 trips over two and half days to get the boned out meat, cape, and antlers out (November). The elevation was minimal and the terrain for the most part was decent for hiking. That's 35 miles of hiking after the kill. I don't have much recollection of the physical effort I had to put into this Wyoming hunt / pack out, but I will NEVER forget the physical effort that was put into my shed elk hunt.
Good luck to you PA BEN and have fun.
My goal is a good 6x6 350 or over. I will not shoot a rag horn on this hunt unless its a cake walk pack out. I've eaten elk tag soup before and I think this tag will make the best soup after this hunt. I will take my time and enjoy the hunt and the opportunity for a chance at a nice bull. This is my first real elk hunt as a sober man. 4 1/2 years. No booze in camp just pur fun. Also my son-in-law will be with me, I have taken him under my arm and helped harvest his first buck 2 years ago and his first archery buck last year. He live on the west side and will be bow hunting elk and deer over there this year.
That's great and Grats on being sober.
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Really enjoying following this thread and your dedication to the hunt. sure hope you tie into that big bull. :camp:
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feeling it today, 5 miles last night w a 55 lb pack.
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Best of luck, great following your story, I'm sure you probably have your plan, i.e. Camping, access, but a good heads up, depending on which side and where, camp sites will be a premium, especially decent ones...folks start filling me up during deer season. I'd recommend getting one early...best of luck.
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Best of luck, great following your story, I'm sure you probably have your plan, i.e. Camping, access, but a good heads up, depending on which side and where, camp sites will be a premium, especially decent ones...folks start filling me up during deer season. I'd recommend getting one early...best of luck.
I will be down there on the 26th hunt starts the 29th
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Best of luck, great following your story, I'm sure you probably have your plan, i.e. Camping, access, but a good heads up, depending on which side and where, camp sites will be a premium, especially decent ones...folks start filling me up during deer season. I'd recommend getting one early...best of luck.
I will be down there on the 26th hunt starts the 29th
I will be down there on the 27th. A couple retired guys, in my camp, will show up earlier to make sure we get a camp spot. I am not sure where we are going to be camping yet. Part of my hunting group will be joining my son and I for a weekend scouting trip, to the shed, on Sept. 9. While there, we will locate a couple of camping options. Once I know where we will be camping, I'll shoot you a note. Feel free to stop by any time. We are always happy to have visitors (of course I may be sleeping, if I am in camp :chuckle:). I will also be up their the entire season.
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Get some walking sticks. Helps in that country. Or a horse. Good luck.
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Get some walking sticks. Helps in that country. Or a horse. Good luck.
Or a horse with walking sticks... :tup:
Good luck!
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Get some walking sticks. Helps in that country. Or a horse. Good luck.
They are called trekking poles and I have them, along with Osteoarthritis in both Knees and Plantar Fasciitis in my right foot. Isn't it great getting old. :bash:
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Get some walking sticks. Helps in that country. Or a horse. Good luck.
They are called trekking poles and I have them, along with Osteoarthritis in both Knees and Plantar Fasciitis in my right foot. Isn't it great getting old. :bash:
Love my trekking poles. Too many years jumping out of airplanes I guess...
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Wanted Oncall meat packers.
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I have never used trekking poles, but have been considering their use, as my knees have been bothering me the last couple of years. Does using them predominantly take some load off the knees?
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I have never used trekking poles, but have been considering their use, as my knees have been bothering me the last couple of years. Does using them predominantly take some load off the knees?
down hill, yes it definitely takes the load off the knees and sometimes the low back depending on angles, terrain, etc.
More importantly when you are hiking and not hunting, the poles take the load off of some of the leg muscle groups by spreading out the load into the arms and shoulders. better stability, less effort to maintain stability, and more power. It will make you faster, and give you more long term endurance.
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I have never used trekking poles, but have been considering their use, as my knees have been bothering me the last couple of years. Does using them predominantly take some load off the knees?
down hill, yes it definitely takes the load off the knees and sometimes the low back depending on angles, terrain, etc.
More importantly when you are hiking and not hunting, the poles take the load off of some of the leg muscle groups by spreading out the load into the arms and shoulders. better stability, less effort to maintain stability, and more power. It will make you faster, and give you more long term endurance.
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Trecking poles definitely will take away a lot of the pain :tup:
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I have never used trekking poles, but have been considering their use, as my knees have been bothering me the last couple of years. Does using them predominantly take some load off the knees?
down hill, yes it definitely takes the load off the knees and sometimes the low back depending on angles, terrain, etc.
More importantly when you are hiking and not hunting, the poles take the load off of some of the leg muscle groups by spreading out the load into the arms and shoulders. better stability, less effort to maintain stability, and more power. It will make you faster, and give you more long term endurance.
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Wanted Oncall meat packers.
Shoot me a PM if needed! If we are back from Idaho Elk hunt no problem zipping over. I eat that country for breakfast, lunch and dinner......... :tup:
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Wanted Oncall meat packers.
Shoot me a PM if needed! If we are back from Idaho Elk hunt no problem zipping over. I eat that country for breakfast, lunch and dinner......... :tup:
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New Boots for this Hunt After trying on several boots in Colville, Spokane and Cabela's, I settled on the Cabela's Meindl Alaska Hunter. So far they feel good walking around the store and at home in the house. I'm giving them an indoor test run before I oil them up and head out for the break in period. BTW, KENETREK Came in second for me, I was going to pull the pin on them until I tried on the Meindl's.
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Love my Miendls! Very comfy and didn't need a break in period
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tagging
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PM inbound! We's packing meat!!!! :IBCOOL:
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For real???????? :dunno:
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For real???????? :dunno:
what?
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New Boots for this Hunt After trying on several boots in Colville, Spokane and Cabela's, I settled on the Cabela's Meindl Alaska Hunter. So far they feel good walking around the store and at home in the house. I'm giving them an indoor test run before I oil them up and head out for the break in period. BTW, KENETREK Came in second for me, I was going to pull the pin on them until I tried on the Meindl's.
I hope they work out for you. Tried a pair of Meindls from Cabelas over the summer. After 40 miles of hiking, I returned them because they were still giving me blisters.
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Buying new boots this late in the planning for a hunt of this nature? Hmmmm. Good luck with that.
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Buying new boots this late in the planning for a hunt of this nature? Hmmmm. Good luck with that.
A good pair of boots shouldn't take two months to break in.
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Buying new boots this late in the planning for a hunt of this nature? Hmmmm. Good luck with that.
if I can't break in a new pair of boots in 2 months I might as well give up now. Even whites boots won't take long.
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I am headed to the Shed for a weekend trip. I hope to have some animal pics come Monday.
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cool another good story to follow.
weathers been a bit wired for this time of year, as to my recollection that is. usually still 80's- 90's this time of year but nice to have the cooler weather.
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Wanted Oncall meat packers.
I should be around. Just depends on when you will need help.
My dad is staying in a cabin at the bottom. He wants me to hunt at home for the first weekend but it depends on who will go with him.
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I got to do an overnight trip, up to the Shed, this last weekend. The temperatures have dropped, and the elk were talking 8). I arrived there Friday evening, and within a few minutes of stepping out of the truck, my son fired off a quick cow call, which received a reply within 30 seconds. That got everybody's hearts pounding, and we all started watching the hillside. A couple of minutes later, a 6-pt bull stepped out onto a ridge below us. He was 800 yards away, and would stop and let out a bugle every couple of minutes. He was searching around for the cow, and would respond, on command, to my son's calls. It was really fun to watch my 10year old's excitement when the bull would respond to him. I broke out the spotting scope to take a closer look at the bull, and while he was fun to watch, he wasn't a shooter. He was missing his entire left antler, and based on his right antler, judged him to be about a 325 inch bull (had he had both antlers :)).
We slept underneath the stars that night, and fell asleep to the occasional bugle after the sun went down.
The next morning, we were up and on the trail at O'dark-thirty. We hiked the Deadman access trail that borders the north boundary of the Shed. We started that hike, with the intention of setting up and spotting, for several hours, once the sun was up. We quickly learned that most of that trail is on the backside of the ridge that bounds the shed, and there was very little access to view points into the shed, while on that trail. This was disappointing because I didn't get to spend much time spotting, but, we learned a lot about the trail, and access along that border.
We got back to the truck late in the afternoon, spent a little bit of time chasing grouse around, and then headed home (my son was happy to harvest two grouse before we got out of the hills).
Below are a few pictures from the weekend.
Picture 1 is of the bull from the first night. Picture was taken from my phone, and did not come out clear at all. If you look in the shadow of the lower ridge, you see a light spot, which is the body of the bull. This was the guy that was missing his left antler.
Picture 2 is a trail pic, as the sun was coming up.
Picture 3 is simply capturing the goofeyness of my son on the trail 8).
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Cool nice pics. That's a really cool looking ridge in that first pic
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There is a really cool plane wreck on the downhill side of the intake trail at ~2 mile.
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Should have told your son to look the other way. Usually elk on the face of Lookout, all Oregon though
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There is a really cool plane wreck on the downhill side of the intake trail at ~2 mile.
Is two miles from the top?
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Should have told your son to look the other way. Usually elk on the face of Lookout, all Oregon though
Thanks for the note - we spent some time observing there (Friday afternoon), but did not see any out.
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There is a really cool plane wreck on the downhill side of the intake trail at ~2 mile.
Is two miles from the top?
It's downhill of the intake trail a very short distance, if you walk in from Kendall Skyline rd it is before deadman peak. approximate google Earth coordinates are: 46'03'53.53 117'55'44.20
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Rumor is theres a dandy bull in the watershed... good luck boys. If my brother fills his peaches tag ill gladly help anyone pack an elk out of the watershed or help out with the hunt. Always wanted to go in there.
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The bio's for the shed said bigger bulls have been shot the last few years.
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The bio's for the shed said bigger bulls have been shot the last few years.
I bet yeah rugged area always wanted to go but never have GL on your guy's hunt.
Think it's been said but not going back through 6 pages but when is the permit good for?
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The bio's for the shed said bigger bulls have been shot the last few years.
I bet yeah rugged area always wanted to go but never have GL on your guy's hunt.
Think it's been said but not going back through 6 pages but when is the permit good for?
October 29th through November 6th, 40 tags Washington side 20 tags Oregon side. Rifle, muzzle loader and archery can apply.
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
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The bio's for the shed said bigger bulls have been shot the last few years.
I bet yeah rugged area always wanted to go but never have GL on your guy's hunt.
Think it's been said but not going back through 6 pages but when is the permit good for?
October 29th through November 6th, 40 tags Washington side 20 tags Oregon side. Rifle, muzzle loader and archery can apply.
Ah oh ok.
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
I don't know why people say it's so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader or archery. :bash: No offense it just you're not the first to say this in this thread. I've hunted elk for many years archery and have been successful I've even stocked wt deer with success, so to me being able to shoot out to 200 yds is great.
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The bio's for the shed said bigger bulls have been shot the last few years.
What bio's are you referring to?
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
I don't know why people say it's so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader or archery. :bash: No offense it just you're not the first to say this in this thread. I've hunted elk for many years archery and have been successful I've even stocked wt deer with success, so to me being able to shoot out to 200 yds is great.
Did you just say you shoot archery out to 200 yards? I enjoy archery. My issue with this tag is a quality bull tag but youre pretty much out of the rut. And surrounded by guys with guns. With the muzzle loader laws and open sights the farthest id shoot at a bull is 130 yards.
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
I don't know why people say it's so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader or archery. :bash: No offense it just you're not the first to say this in this thread. I've hunted elk for many years archery and have been successful I've even stocked wt deer with success, so to me being able to shoot out to 200 yds is great.
Did you just say you shoot archery out to 200 yards? I enjoy archery. My issue with this tag is a quality bull tag but youre pretty much out of the rut. And surrounded by guys with guns. With the muzzle loader laws and open sights the farthest id shoot at a bull is 130 yards.
I have a MLtag. After hunting elk and deer with archery, during and after the rut hunting with my ML that I have dialed in out to 200 yds is a great edge. I started hunting wt with a 30-30 open sites. I'm not going to sit around and glass find a bull and go after him, I plan on hunting.
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I am looking forward to seeing what you pull out of here. I always applied for this hunt when I lived there, but never had a chance to get drawn. Are you bringing the animal out on your back or do you have a packer lined up? I dont think you will have a problem with running into other guys, most will have thrown in the towel either before the season starts or after the 2nd day :)
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
I don't know why people say it's so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader or archery. :bash: No offense it just you're not the first to say this in this thread. I've hunted elk for many years archery and have been successful I've even stocked wt deer with success, so to me being able to shoot out to 200 yds is great.
Seems to me several knowledgeable guys whom have spent time in the area are telling you how it is and trying to give some solid advice, yet you seem to pretty much know it all. Hopefully you have an enjoyable hunt and I hope you fill your tag, but reality is, the odds are stacked against you with a muzzy in the 'shed and competing with rifle hunters. :twocents:
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Archery and muzzleload makes it a very tough hunt in my opinion. How many guys have pulled a big bull out of there with an archery tag?
I don't know why people say it's so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader or archery. :bash: No offense it just you're not the first to say this in this thread. I've hunted elk for many years archery and have been successful I've even stocked wt deer with success, so to me being able to shoot out to 200 yds is great.
Seems to me several knowledgeable guys whom have spent time in the area are telling you how it is and trying to give some solid advice, yet you seem to pretty much know it all. Hopefully you have an enjoyable hunt and I hope you fill your tag, but reality is, the odds are stacked against you with a muzzy in the 'shed and competing with rifle hunters. :twocents:
no I don't know it all, I know it's a hard hunt. I do know that I have walked up on bulls bow hunting that I could have killed, so with that being said if I can get on a good bull with in range my ML should do the trick. If one has never spent time bow hunting you won't know what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with being a know it all.
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BTW, I'm trying to get my fat ass in shape for this hunt. I'm hiking the hills with a loaded pack, riding my Mt. bike, I've lost 16 lbs and hope to drop another 10 before the hunt. As long as my knees and right foot hold up it should be a great time with my son in law.
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You've got the right mentality and sounds like the right work ethic to prepare. :tup: :tup:
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Seems to me several knowledgeable guys whom have spent time in the area are telling you how it is and trying to give some solid advice, yet you seem to pretty much know it all. Hopefully you have an enjoyable hunt and I hope you fill your tag, but reality is, the odds are stacked against you with a muzzy in the 'shed and competing with rifle hunters. :twocents:
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You say I'm a know it all, that's too funny. So far the ones who have said I will have a hard time with a muzzle loader haven't said why that is. And because I question those comments it makes be a know it all. You sir need to get a life and quite reading between the lines.
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How big of a bull are you planning to hold out for?
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Man, people are getting all worked up. He'll do fine with a muzzy as long as weather cooperates. If weather doesn't cooperate then it won't matter what you're hunting with because you can't see 25' in there with fog.
He's doing everything he should be doing, scouting, contacting past tag holders and he's working out and has his muzzy dialed in.
Go kill a big one Pa Ben.
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How big of a bull are you planning to hold out for?
I'm hoping for a 350 or better 6x6, I've never been a horn hunter when it comes to elk, I always shoot the first legal one I see. But with this tag this year I'm a horn hunter. I love elk meat but I will have plenty of deer meat to get by on. If this picture works, it will definitely be bigger than this guy. This is my biggest bull to date. If I'm going to pack out a bull from the shed I don't want it to be a rag horn. I'm counting on a 3 to 4 mile one way pack. Now towards the end of the hunt and I have a legal bull that is a cake walk to the truck, I might just fill my tag. I've been told by almost everybody that has had this tag that the deeper you go the less chance of running into other hunters. I've got some good info and a plan, and I'm not going to share that info here. I'm not a know it all, I just don't have a negative attitude about this hunt. I trust in my God to bless me and my son-in-law with the best time ever. Whatever that may be. Trust me I've laid awake at night thinking about those steep MT.'s in the Blues, but like I said, I have to trust in God. So let's all just take a deep breath and enjoy this time before, durning and after our hunts.
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Good luck on your hunt hopefully you find a quality bull to chase. I'm not sure what it matters to anyone else what weapon you decide to pursue game with. I'm sure some folks will be eating their words which seems to happen fairly often especially when you have someone dedicated to something.
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Having had that tag, it's a ton of perseverance, preparation, and the ability to take some pain, no doubt you will be ready to roll. Choice of weapon is up to the tag holder, best of luck to you, please keep us updated on your quest. Your tag, your hunt. I had a blast, hope to get to do it again.
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Go get em "Ben". :tup: . I'm out near Forks still looking to close the deal on a big Rosie. Seems like an eternity ago that we traded info on hunting over here.
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:yike: fight GL but know it's a while yet so... :chuckle: :tup:
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Good luck on your hunt hopefully you find a quality bull to chase. I'm not sure what it matters to anyone else what weapon you decide to pursue game with. I'm sure some folks will be eating their words which seems to happen fairly often especially when you have someone dedicated to something.
Time will tell who eats who's words. Good hunting on the hunt.
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Buying new boots this late in the planning for a hunt of this nature? Hmmmm. Good luck with that.
My new boots are doing great, I do a 2 mile training route up and down some steep ground, I even do a gravel pit in it.
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Looking good, hope you whack a pig. Can't wait to hear about your trip...a pretty cool experience for sure. I carry moleskin, and when I go into a hell hole, I always put some on in a couple certain areas as a precaution. Not because of crappy boots, just because of the nasty terrain ( and I have weird feet), seems to help. Not that you need any tips, but just a nice thing to have just in case. Best of luck
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yeah a month still lol :drool: can't wait to hear all the stories and pics from this.
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Looking good, hope you whack a pig. Can't wait to hear about your trip...a pretty cool experience for sure. I carry moleskin, and when I go into a hell hole, I always put some on in a couple certain areas as a precaution. Not because of crappy boots, just because of the nasty terrain ( and I have weird feet), seems to help. Not that you need any tips, but just a nice thing to have just in case. Best of luck
Yeah I carry it to but I always use it after a blister. I've got a knot on the back of each heal. I wonder if there are any videos on how to apply it for pre blisters not post blisters.
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Looking good, hope you whack a pig. Can't wait to hear about your trip...a pretty cool experience for sure. I carry moleskin, and when I go into a hell hole, I always put some on in a couple certain areas as a precaution. Not because of crappy boots, just because of the nasty terrain ( and I have weird feet), seems to help. Not that you need any tips, but just a nice thing to have just in case. Best of luck
Yeah I carry it to but I always use it after a blister. I've got a knot on the back of each heal. I wonder if there are any videos on how to apply it for pre blisters not post blisters.
I have the same issue..I know you don't need any advise but if I could recommend one thing,,,,put it on each heel when you put your boots on. it saved me when I was in there, gonna have to trust me on that one.
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Let's knock off I know you don't need any advice BS. I ask why is so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader and I'm a know it all. You guys are acting like a bunch of high school girls. Quite reading between the lines and grow up. I know this hunt is going to be THE most demanding elk hunt I've been on, that's why I'm killing myself getting into shape for it, and it still might kill me. I've got a lot of lineman wear and tear on this 56 year old body. Personally I don't think the muzzle loader is the hard part.
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I'm enjoying your thread. You have been to the area. You are out getting in the best shape you can! And you have a positive attitude toward the hunt. Keep it up :tup:Good luck
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Let's knock off I know you don't need any advice BS. I ask why is so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader and I'm a know it all. You guys are acting like a bunch of high school girls. Quite reading between the lines and grow up. I know this hunt is going to be THE most demanding elk hunt I've been on, that's why I'm killing myself getting into shape for it, and it still might kill me. I've got a lot of lineman wear and tear on this 56 year old body. Personally I don't think the muzzle loader is the hard part.
I meant my reply with the utmost sincerity regarding the moleskin....where did I mention anything about a muzzleloader? Just trying to offer up some help. I dont care if your using a rock or a club....your tag your journey. Get over yourself, go enjoy your hunt and kill something.
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Pa Ben, you need to go hunting! :chuckle:
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Let's knock off I know you don't need any advice BS. I ask why is so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader and I'm a know it all. You guys are acting like a bunch of high school girls. Quite reading between the lines and grow up. I know this hunt is going to be THE most demanding elk hunt I've been on, that's why I'm killing myself getting into shape for it, and it still might kill me. I've got a lot of lineman wear and tear on this 56 year old body. Personally I don't think the muzzle loader is the hard part.
I meant my reply with the utmost sincerity regarding the moleskin....where did I mention anything about a muzzleloader? Just trying to offer up some help. I dont care if your using a rock or a club....your tag your journey. Get over yourself, go enjoy your hunt and kill something.
Sorry I bad. :sry:
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I personally have had a very hard time with getting blisters. It didn't seem to matter what I tried - different boot brands, different sock weights, multiple socks/single sock, mole skin or duct tape - I would still end up with blisters on my heels. Then I learned about luekotape. I bought a roll and haven't had a blister since. I put it on before I go out (it is suggested to put it on several hours before you start hiking so the adhesive can set up), and it will stay on my foot for several days before I need to change it even if my feet get wet. If you have any concern about preventing blisters, you may want to check it out. I found videos on YouTube showing the best way to put it on as it is kind of stretchy. I'm envious of your upcoming adventure!!
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Let's knock off I know you don't need any advice BS. I ask why is so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader and I'm a know it all. You guys are acting like a bunch of high school girls. Quite reading between the lines and grow up. I know this hunt is going to be THE most demanding elk hunt I've been on, that's why I'm killing myself getting into shape for it, and it still might kill me. I've got a lot of lineman wear and tear on this 56 year old body. Personally I don't think the muzzle loader is the hard part.
HEY PA BEN, GET A SNICKERS QUICK BEFORE YOU KILL SOMEBODY WITH YOUR KEYBOARD. :chuckle:
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Let's knock off I know you don't need any advice BS. I ask why is so hard to kill an elk with a muzzle loader and I'm a know it all. You guys are acting like a bunch of high school girls. Quite reading between the lines and grow up. I know this hunt is going to be THE most demanding elk hunt I've been on, that's why I'm killing myself getting into shape for it, and it still might kill me. I've got a lot of lineman wear and tear on this 56 year old body. Personally I don't think the muzzle loader is the hard part.
HEY PA BEN, GET A SNICKERS QUICK BEFORE YOU KILL SOMEBODY WITH YOUR KEYBOARD. :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle:I'm feeling better I'm working on a camper deal, I might not be tent camping on this hunt.
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I'm assuming PA BEN is from PA, which folks from Pennsylvania call our state. If he is from PA, his grumpiness is just the East Coast coming out of him. It leaks out of me all the time, and folks just can't seem to understand it. It's not that we're mad, we are just direct and matter of fact in our communication. No sugar coating.
If you're not from PA, you're doing a good job at impersonating someone from there!
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I'm assuming PA BEN is from PA, which folks from Pennsylvania call our state. If he is from PA, his grumpiness is just the East Coast coming out of him. It leaks out of me all the time, and folks just can't seem to understand it. It's not that we're mad, we are just direct and matter of fact in our communication. No sugar coating.
If you're not from PA, you're doing a good job at impersonating someone from there!
you assumed wrong, I'm from Bluecreek just north of Chewelah. If you read this whole thread you will see why I'm a little testy.
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I think you've just about run everyone off of this thread. :chuckle:
I'm still pulling for you though. :tup:
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I certainly understand PA BEN! Can't blame you. As a matter of fact, I don't see anything wrong or offensive in your responses!
Best of luck on the hunt! I'm sure you'll have a great time and be successful!
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Its awfully quiet around here.... 8) :peep:
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:bumpin:
back to the top. :tup:
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Good luck!!!
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I always figured the PA was from Port Angeles
Good Luck PA Ben! Hope you kill a big one! Have fun in any case! (even if the fun is some of the most grueling stuff you've ever done!)
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You'll be glad to know it has rained over there and that Tuesday and Wednesday morning both saw about an inch of snow hit the ground above 5700'.
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I always figured the PA was from Port Angeles
Good Luck PA Ben! Hope you kill a big one! Have fun in any case! (even if the fun is some of the most grueling stuff you've ever done!)
Thanks for the good wishes everyone. PA stands for Port Angeles and BEN stands for Ben Gay. I tore my right rotator off my 5 day on my new job there. Monday morning after I tore it, I had icy hot on my shoulder, one of the lineman walked in and said bengay? I said, I've never been gay. So from take day on my nick name was BEN.
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Good luck to ya! We camp in Blue Creek every Spring and Fall. Still following along!
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I always figured the PA was from Port Angeles
Good Luck PA Ben! Hope you kill a big one! Have fun in any case! (even if the fun is some of the most grueling stuff you've ever done!)
Thanks for the good wishes everyone. PA stands for Port Angeles and BEN stands for Ben Gay. I tore my right rotator off my 5 day on my new job there. Monday morning after I tore it, I had icy hot on my shoulder, one of the lineman walked in and said bengay? I said, I've never been gay. So from take day on my nick name was BEN.
:chuckle: awesome yeah getting closer for you guys.
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Down 24 lbs I still feel I'm not in shape for this hunt. Heading out for another training hike with 55 lbs.
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Good work staying after it Pa Ben! Awesome.
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Get sum!!!!!
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Does anybody know if the shed got any snow this weekend?
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Wanted Oncall meat packers.
I should be around. Just depends on when you will need help.
My dad is staying in a cabin at the bottom. He wants me to hunt at home for the first weekend but it depends on who will go with him.
Sounds like he is getting good help together. Bruce said he is going and last I heard JJ was going too. I may show up for a few days too.
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Does anybody know if the shed got any snow this weekend?
Saw a post from the ski lodge that said they received 3 inches last weekend.
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Awesome PA ben, seeing this recent pic vs a previous pix you can see the physical change, keep at it. :tup:
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Thanks - I spoke with the forest service guy, today, and he said the road, on top, is getting pretty slick.
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Does anybody know if the shed got any snow this weekend?
Saw a post from the ski lodge that said they received 3 inches last weekend.
Thanks - I spoke with the forest service guy, today, and he said the road, on top, is pretty slick.
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Man that sucker gets real greasy, be careful everyone and good luck.
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Definitely have tire chains
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Been a lot of rain over here lately and looks like more come over weekend and some next week possibly. Roads could be crap so come preparred. Good Luck!
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It rained hard last night and was quite warm. I was as high as 5200ft and not a single sign of snow.
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yah that road gets pretty bad with all the Ruts and stuff. especially when you get ruts in ruts it's like :yike:
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Getting close.
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Getting close.
Can't wait to get up there. Heading up Thursday night, and planning to come out when tag is filled, or season ends.
Thanks to everyone for the condition updates.
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Getting close.
Can't wait to get up there. Heading up Thursday night, and planning to come out when tag is filled, or season ends.
Thanks to everyone for the condition updates.
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Do you have your camp spot yet? What are you driving?
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Getting close.
Can't wait to get up there. Heading up Thursday night, and planning to come out when tag is filled, or season ends.
Thanks to everyone for the condition updates.
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Do you have your camp spot yet? What are you driving?
I have a couple of camping spots identified, but don't know exactly which one I will be in. I will be camping as close to the top of the ridge as conditions will allow. I will be driving a white dodge, and our camp will consist of two wall tents, with a grey awning set up between them. I will also try and post a camp location, once I get up there, if I have reception.
Do you have a camp spot yet? What are you driving?
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Those camp spots go quick on top, good luck with the hunt!
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:yeah: They were filling up quick this weekend. :twocents:
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Thanks for the heads-up guys.
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Maroon Dodge Ram 1500 4 door, popup camper. White parachute for a dry place to get out of the weather by a fire. We will be using my son in laws rig to get around in. Going to start out camping in Oregon and entering the shed from Oregon. I'm getting really jacked about this hunt, I've never spent this much effort getting ready for a hunt.
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Maroon Dodge Ram 1500 4 door, popup camper. White parachute for a dry place to get out of the weather by a fire. We will be using my son in laws rig to get around in. Going to start out camping in Oregon and entering the shed from Oregon. I'm getting really jacked about this hunt, I've never spent this much effort getting ready for a hunt.
Make sure you keep your rifle unloaded until you get across the state line. When he was there a few years ago they had officers walking the state line checking people's guns. If they had a WA tag and had the guns loaded they wrote them a ticket.
Good luck to you! I should be up there mid week/weekend to help my dad.
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Maroon Dodge Ram 1500 4 door, popup camper. White parachute for a dry place to get out of the weather by a fire. We will be using my son in laws rig to get around in. Going to start out camping in Oregon and entering the shed from Oregon. I'm getting really jacked about this hunt, I've never spent this much effort getting ready for a hunt.
Make sure you keep your rifle unloaded until you get across the state line. When he was there a few years ago they had officers walking the state line checking people's guns. If they had a WA tag and had the guns loaded they wrote them a ticket.
Good luck to you! I should be up there mid week/weekend to help my dad.
Wrote them a ticket for what?
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My guess would be for hunting in Oregon without proper license and tag.
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Why would you be hunting?
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The Forest Service guys told us you can't have your gun loaded in Oregon. I did call and talked to the Oregon Sargent for the State patrol for that area in Oregon and he said a loaded sidearm was ok in Oregon.
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Been following the thread. Good luck Pa, hope you get a dandy. Stay safe. :tup:
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Maroon Dodge Ram 1500 4 door, popup camper. White parachute for a dry place to get out of the weather by a fire. We will be using my son in laws rig to get around in. Going to start out camping in Oregon and entering the shed from Oregon. I'm getting really jacked about this hunt, I've never spent this much effort getting ready for a hunt.
I excited about this hunt too. I can't think of anything else right now. I'll keep an eye out for your camp.
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TK....good luck to you as well! :tup:
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TK....good luck to you as well! :tup:
Thanks
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You guys have been great, I hope to do this tag justice. Rain snow fog as long as this almost 57 year old body holds up I will be in the shed each day of this hunt.
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The Forest Service guys told us you can't have your gun loaded in Oregon. I did call and talked to the Oregon Sargent for the State patrol for that area in Oregon and he said a loaded sidearm was ok in Oregon.
Oregon is an Open Carry State......
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Almost ready, had to make 2 last minute runs to Colville. Heading down in the morning.
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If you can get into the shed before the other guys Saturday am, I would recommend getting down on Deadman Ridge and listening for some bugles first thing. Pretty tough hunting across canyons with the smoke pole, but we've gotten into them between DM and Green ridge down low. Good luck!
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Good luck! Really been enjoying reading about his. Looking forward to updates!
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Almost ready, had to make 2 last minute runs to Colville. Heading down in the morning.
The time has come - I'll see you up there.
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Good luck, both of you! Shoot straight and stay safe.
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Best of Luck to the both of you! Come back with some good stories and pictures!
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Best of Luck to the both of you! Come back with some good stories and pictures!
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Good luck to you guys!
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Came into Walla Walla to dry out close and packs. Could have shot a 4x5 on paradise ridge. Went in on the east end and came out at the waterplaint. 10.49 miles. Droped into a hell hole in the creek bottom 5 miles from the waterplaint.
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Looking towards Table Rock
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Hope you find the one you want. GOOD Luck!
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I was told 2 bulls were shot at over 800 yds below Deadman yesterday.
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Tick Tock
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Looking towards Table Rock
Looks like you have a great crew with you. Best of luck in your pursuit of a big bull :tup:
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Hows the hunt going?
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Sitting in Les Schwab's w a flat, we drove up blacksnake to where we wanted to glass and changed the flat and headed for town. :bash:
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Blacksnake is a tire killer, you're better off driving up Biscuit Ridge out of Dixie. It has a better view of the shed. I have a cabin up there....I know it well
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Good luck!! I know there are a couple toads just on the blue creek side of the shed. Hopefully some of the guys who have permission can push them out of the bottom of the hole and up to you guys. I did hear a few shot opening morning up that way. I've been watching this closely. I'm in walla walla if you need a hand. I'll be heading up to start hunting the later part of the season up high weds evening or early Thursday. Give a shout if you need anything! Good luck!!
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Got to tag this thread!
Good Luck
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Tagging along...
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:yike: yeah it's about that time huh? GL all :tup:
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Get that ANIMAL you are hunting with into the hole. He will go anywhere!!! Steep and DEEP! Looking forward to good things here guys....
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I know 3 of the tag holders.....
They sounded a bit wore out last I talked to them :chuckle:
No tags punched tho
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Came into town to shower. We saw a big 8x7 about a mile away tonight. It's about a 5 mile treck to where he was at. I will see how my feet feel in the morning.
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They are starting to hit the ground :tup:
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Came into town to shower. We saw a big 8x7 about a mile away tonight. It's about a 5 mile treck to where he was at. I will see how my feet feel in the morning.
You can rest your feet next week! Get that thing!
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Came into town to shower. We saw a big 8x7 about a mile away tonight. It's about a 5 mile treck to where he was at. I will see how my feet feel in the morning.
You can rest your feet next week! Get that thing!
What this guy said!! You waited a long time for this tag. Your feet will feel fine once you get moving!! Go get him!!
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Love it! Good luck
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Came into town to shower. We saw a big 8x7 about a mile away tonight. It's about a 5 mile treck to where he was at. I will see how my feet feel in the morning.
You can rest your feet next week! Get that thing!
What this guy said!! You waited a long time for this tag. Your feet will feel fine once you get moving!! Go get him!!
That and he has trained harder for this chance than most of the guys who get this tag. Most would have tossed in the towel by now. Cant wait for something to hit the ground!!!
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Yeah PA an 8x7 come on :chuckle: go get em. wishing you all Luck though pics and stories NOW! :chuckle:
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Ive got a feeling hes gonna pull this one off. Worked too hard not too!. Cant wait for pics and story! :IBCOOL:
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Will guys, here’s my story, and I’m sticking to it. I was 40 lbs over wt and out of shape when I drew this tag. I’m down 30 lbs in just over 2 months and at 57 I’m definitely not in the shape I would like to have been in to start this hunt in the shed.
I pulled my ham string in my right leg, there is no way I can hike the hills let alone pack an elk, so I through in the towel. I went into this hunt not obsessed about filling my tag but just having the chance at a nice bull. I’ve harvested enough elk to not obsess about filling my tag. I told myself I’m not going to shoot a small bull on this hunt, (unless it’s the last day and a cake walk pack out). I met a guy packing out a 5x5 he shot on Sunday just after he shot it a nice 6x6 came by, I bet he wishes he held off. I went in to hunt the shed and I did, what a majestic place to hunt with lots of bulls, I’m sure I could have gotten a good bull with my muzzleloader if I had not let myself go like I did over the years.
I did a lot of soul searching while on this hunt; (something I do on all hunts); I asked God what he is teaching me on this hunt? Health and family is what really came to mind. Without the one you don’t have the other. I met 2 HW members hunting horse back with their Dads who were in their 70’s, the Dads had the tags. My Dad quit hunting years ago; I was a kid the last time I hunted with my Dad. The HW members were having a great time with their Dads AND one did get a nice 6x6, we dropped by their camp picking up my friend who drew the tag too. What a great time. If they want to share their story they can it’s not my place to do that.
I want to personally thank the guys who gave me information on this hunt, both on this thread and in PM’s you know who you are. And a special thanks to the HW member who set me up on the camp spot.
Here are a few pictures from the hunt.
BTW, the 7x8 turned out to be a 7x9. I will see if I can post a picture and hopefully the story.
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Good job PA Ben. You had a goal and you stuck with it. I don't think you came out empty handed, you hunted some country few ever get to step foot in.
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Going in on the SE side of oregon. The light colored marker is the Washington line.
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Many tag holders leave that area after 2 days, it's very challenging even for young men or women. Love your attitude about it, I feel like I should say congrats anyways!
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Bulls the far ridge is paradise, the next closest ridge has a nice 6x6 in the lower right corner. Here is the bull through the spotting scope.
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More bulls through the scope. The closer fuzzy bull picture is of the 7x9.
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Pa Ben
You got in shape and gave it all you can. It's good that you
Enjoyed the challenge and got some posistive nuggets
From hunt.
Great job👊💥👊
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Real good hunt! Glad you enjoyed the experience, people and the out of doors! :tup:
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For me, it's the experience and it sounds the same for you. You gave it he'll and did what most probably don't so nothing to be down about.
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I couldn't agree more. It's all about the experience! :twocents:
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PA Ben it was a pleasure to meet you in person. I know you and your son in law worked hard in trying to kill a bull.
Where did you get the parachute at? My dad was impressed on how quick you guys packed up. And I hope your tool box lid survived the trip, noticed it was open when we passed you (saw you leaving Walla Walla when we went to get diesel).
Here is to a quick recovery!! :party1:
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For me, it's the experience and it sounds the same for you. You gave it he'll and did what most probably don't so nothing to be down about.
Exactly.....you had a great time and enjoyed some splendid county, let alone making some new friends. Thanks for sharing. That's what hunting is all about. :tup:
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PA Ben it was a pleasure to meet you in person. I know you and your son in law worked hard in trying to kill a bull.
Where did you get the parachute at? My dad was impressed on how quick you guys packed up. And I hope your tool box lid survived the trip, noticed it was open when we passed you (saw you leaving Walla Walla when we went to get diesel).
Here is to a quick recovery!! :party1:
It was great meeting you and your Dad. The lid made it. I got the parachute from cheaper than dirt.
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You worked harder than anyone who gets that tag. You were prepared and you knew what you wanted from the hunt. You gave it your all and that something to be proud of! My dad shot a bull out there with his cousin and after the pack they went home, leaving one tag unfilled because of how hard it was to hunt that unit and get one out. I was really hoping you would pull a good bull out of there because you earned it, but your journey has been motivational!
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Way to give her hell "Ben". This adventure may not be over yet. Maybe it is just the start of this chapter?
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Looks like a success to me Pa Ben. You gave it all you had, and that's what it takes to kill elk in that miserable country. You got to experience it first hand!
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:tup: Well darn but you had fun anyhows and that last bull man... Grats on at least drawing that tag and at least trying.
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If you haven't been in this steep deep hell hole called the watershed, think twice or more before applying for the permit.
One of the game wardens told me how he would show guys who drew a permit where to start their hunt by walking up to the edge and pointing down into it---and describing the shock on the faces of some who had never set eyes on it before celebrating getting drawn.
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Helped a friend get an elk out of the Watershed on Saturday. Left my house at 330am, arrived at the mill creek rd gate around 07:40. 3 of us took off on foot around 8:30 and made it back to the truck around 6pm. Was home by 10:20pm. 1st time I have ever laid eyes in that unit, steep and deep is an understatement. Trail in from the bottom was mostly maintained, had to cross the creek a total of 14 times. Luckily it was fairly mild out, getting wet crossing that creek would be an issue with freezing temps.
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How big was the elk?
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I made it back in town, and had a great hunt in the Watershed. I enjoyed e very minute of it, and can't wait to get back in there again. A little bit about my hunting party. It was myself, my father, a long time hunting partner, and his son. I have been hunting with my father, and long time hunting partner, since I started hunting as a boy. Together, we have killed a lot of deer and elk, over the years, and have generated hundreds of hunting stories and memories that will last a lifetime. We have been hunting, together, since the early 80's, and it was a complete pleasure to experience this adventure with them.
Friday - Set up camp, and cut/split wood for the entire hunting season. Once camp was set, we did some last minute scouting, and put a couple of bulls to bed. Both bulls made the list to check out on Saturday morning.
Saturday - My 70 year old father and I put on a couple of miles, before the sun rose, and then dropped into the shed, to check out that bulls that we located the night before. As we were making our way, down the ridge, we found a little 5 point bull, in a little pocket, and decided to pass on him. We located one of the bulls that we identified that night before, and decided to pass on him as well. This bull was a 6 point, but we estimated him to be in the very low 300's. Late that afternoon, our hunt turned into a "get the old man out of the shed, safely" activity. By the end of the day, fatigue set in, on my father, negatively impacting his balance. I took his pack, and all of his weight, and we slowly worked our way out of the shed, and back to the truck.
Sunday - I hunted the shed solo, worked my way down to Mill Creek, over a couple of ridges, and then back out. During the course of the day, I spotted several bulls of interest, but they were over a mile away. I got out of the Shed around dark, shared the info with my hunting party, and together, we built a strategy to get a closer look at the bulls I found.
Monday - Took the day to rest, and chose to drive to town and replenish supplies to get us through the end of the hunting season.
Tuesday - Made an approach on one of the bulls I identified on Sunday. Had a good opportunity to shoot this bull, at just over 100 yards, but passed it up, as I estimated it to be around a 330ish bull (I have a 330 bull, and was looking for 350 or larger).
Wednesday - I ran into the same 5 point bull I found on opening day. He was in the exact same location, just enjoying life. I made my way down to Mill Creek, and back out. It was a pretty slow day, I saw some cows , throughout the day, but did not see any larger bulls. Wednesday evening, I decided that I would go back to where the 330 inch bull was, on Tuesday, and see if I could make a move on him.
Thursday - Made my way back to the area that I had located the 330 bull, spent the entire day there, but did not see that bull again. It is possible that he was bumped out, by another hunter, but, I was pretty deep in the Shed, and never, did I see another hunter.
Friday - Went back to find the 330 bull, but unsuccessful again. After another long day in the Shed, I worked my way out, and back to camp, to re-strategize with my hunting party. That evening, we decided it was best to make a move on the 5 point bull we saw on opening morning. I had seen him, in the same little pocket, all week long.
Saturday - My long time hunting partner decided to join me. He is 60 years old, and had not gone in the Shed with me yet. We put on a few miles before the sun rose, and then got ourselves into position for the 5 point that I had observed all week. Just before 9:00 am, the bull came out of the timber to feed. We watched him, for about 20 minutes, as he fed, and moved in closer to us. At 9:00 am, he was feeding below us, and at a perfect 85 yard broadside position. My hunting partner quietly whispered "are you sure you want to take this bull?" I replied "yes", and then squeezed a shot off a few moments later. The bull humped, took two steps, and then collapsed.
As stated before, I thoroughly enjoyed this entire hunt. The animals I saw, the scenery, the physical challenge, and the additional memories that I made with my longtime hunting partners. I can't wait to win this tag again!!
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Nice bull and storey TKELK. :tup:
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Congrats man that place will make you work hard for your elk. Thanks for sharing your story..
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Sounds like you had a great time on your hunt! Awesome! Nice bull, too! :tup:
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:tup: You made the most of it and got to hunt elk for a week straight, seeing bulls and no other people. On top of that, you brought home a ton of great meat! Can't beat that! :tup:
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Congrats TLElk! Glad you were able to enjoy the hunt with hour family and friends.
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Sounds like you had a good time, I passed on a bull about that same size on my hunt. I wasn't going to pack a smaller bull out of there, but who knows, if I haven't pulled my hamstring I might have. :dunno:
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Good job PA BEN!! Great place to walk around for a few days. I see they are still around. Plat has it right and wandering in the shed is a great experience
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Sounds like you had a good time, I passed on a bull about that same size on my hunt. I wasn't going to pack a smaller bull out of there, but who knows, if I haven't pulled my hamstring I might have. :dunno:
I am glad you had a good time. I wasn't going to shoot a small bull either, but decided to take this one late in the game. It ended up being a fairly easy pack (relatively speaking 8)).
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Reading all these stories really bums me out that I screwed up my knee before last season when I drew the permit.
Knee was back to 100% by April though and felt good this season so far.
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"Quality" permits don't necessarily result in a quality animal, but almost always result in a quality hunt experience.
Congratulations.
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Congrats.
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Sounds like a great hunt, thanks for sharing.
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Sounds like you had a good time, I passed on a bull about that same size on my hunt. I wasn't going to pack a smaller bull out of there, but who knows, if I haven't pulled my hamstring I might have. :dunno:
Got any pics of that bull that you passed up?
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:tup: Nice Elk and heck of an experience Grats.
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Sounds like you had a good time, I passed on a bull about that same size on my hunt. I wasn't going to pack a smaller bull out of there, but who knows, if I haven't pulled my hamstring I might have. :dunno:
Got any pics of that bull that you passed up?
No pictures of him, it was him and a few cows. We hunted around them looking for a bigger bull that might have been with them so I didn't pull out my camera.