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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: ridgefire on June 11, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
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What size bull is realistic to get with the Westside incentive tag? I am looking into the white river and toutle units but sounds like the trophy quality isn't the best. Can pretty much hunt any open season in pretty much all units. Nooksack is not open with this tag.
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Kapowsin. I don't know the unit number.
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Toutle is a waist. I promise you that. If you are considering this unit once again take the deer tag.
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Cannot hunt kapowsin even with the incentive tag, you can hunt mashel, but not anything that lies in the kapowsin boundaries. I'd say white river you'll have to put time into which is good if your ok hiking deep, maybe check out south rainier etc. Down there.
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300-320
350 if you head to the eastern edge
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I wouldn't pick the toutle either but a guy could still kill a 300 in there with that tag.
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You can probably kill a 300 inch bull in most Westside units
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i have done a ton of elk hunting but it has all been eastern wa and idaho. i am looking for a area that i can get off roads and bivy hunt. i do not have a timber company pass and would rather hunt public land. any other suggestions for units to look into for quality bulls?
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You might look into Lewis River, Packwood, or South Rainier. You could even consider hiring an outfitter to pack you in. Try contacting White Pass Outfitters.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=23852
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If you are looking for a Rosie, I would say Quinault.
Some really nice park bulls in mid to late sep.
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What are you looking for? That's an incredible tag that can take you on an adventure of a lifetime. If it were mine I would start with Quinault (true Roosevelt) and move to the crest. The crest will offer higher number of 300+ inch bulls but there is not much that compares to the massive Rosies. Toutle, Margaret, monument,etc will all have an occasional giant but I would hedge my bets elsewhere. :twocents:
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Cannot hunt kapowsin even with the incentive tag, you can hunt mashel, but not anything that lies in the kapowsin boundaries. I'd say white river you'll have to put time into which is good if your ok hiking deep, maybe check out south rainier etc. Down there.
Well thats sucks. I used to live a mile from Kapwsion 16 years ago and saw monster bulls quite a bit behind the gates.
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Naselle ?
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Naselle? Is that a clue?
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With that tag he'd definitely get a bull in that area camp but very few bulls live long in the sw.
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If it was me I would take a look at the west side of the OP. Just saying..............
Not that I know anything about elk :chuckle:
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As said before.... Lewis River, South Rainier for a Cascade Roosie or Quinalt or Clearwater for a real Roosie.
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I know where I'd be hunting! And I wouldn't bother with the toutle or Margaret units. Congrats on a great tag
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Trophy I can bet a few places you would be lol. I know where I'd be with this tag... lol
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Trophy I can bet a few places you would be lol. I know where I'd be with this tag... lol
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How does someone get this incentive tag
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How does someone get this incentive tag
Just keep reporting your haverst report on time and pray.
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If it was me I would take a look at the west side of the OP. Just saying..............
Not that I know anything about elk :chuckle:
:yeah:
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If it were me I would hunt S Rayonier in late September. Can be a hard hunt , but there are some monsters that cross the trail at the top.
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Border of olympic park on the westside, between bow n muzzie season.
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Maybe start a poll :dunno:
Everyone is going to think there area would be the best because that's where they spend the most time....the truth is they all have big bulls
Definite top picks in no particular order
Hunting along the border either in the white river or south rainier on down to mt adams area
The coast hunts,Quinault/clear water/park border stuff
The stuff between...west white river, mt st hellens area
I would do my best to look into all of them to find something I liked
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What an awesome dilemma all the way around. What ever choice you make, enjoy the ride.
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There is usually one big bull in every unit ..just a matter of finding him ... :dunno: :chuckle:
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I know where I'd be hunting! And I wouldn't bother with the toutle or Margaret units. Congrats on a great tag
I know where I would be also! What a dream tag :tup:
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You should ask your self as well what kind of bull you want white river to Mt Adams will get you a crossed breed more than likely and it will not go in the Boone and crocket. Anything east of I5 will be considered rocky as everything west is a Rosie. Whatever you do like other members have mentioned enjoy yourself and have a good time
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East side of Wynoochee reservoir when the snow starts to fall, all the elk come down to the north end of the lake.
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Naselle
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Cannot hunt kapowsin even with the incentive tag, you can hunt mashel, but not anything that lies in the kapowsin boundaries. I'd say white river you'll have to put time into which is good if your ok hiking deep, maybe check out south rainier etc. Down there.
I ran into a couple people a few years ago who were drawn for Mashel antlerless muzzleloader permits that fell outside of the general elk seasons when Hancock closes for their elk permits. Hancock allowed them to hunt and harvest because it wasn't during the general elk seasons. I would say it would be worth asking Hancock to make sure since there are still permits available.
If they by chance said yes it is a no brainer where to go.
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:dunno:
What is with all the Naselle suggestions?
There are not any elk there, it is too thick, too steep, and no place to camp...
At least that was the response I got when I asked about area...
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Find out where Phelps killed his bull. :dunno:
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It boils down to what you as a hunter likes in a given area, and what kind of hunt your looking for. I have hunted elk in most of the units in sw Washington, and seen respectable bulls in all of them. I have killed a 300 inch bull in a unit that historically is not somewhere one would look for quality bulls. I would venture to say that an area that you are familiar with is more important than an area with a high number of large bulls, not to say that it wouldn't be ideal but fore sure not a must.
The largest bulls that i have ever seen while actually out hunting in this state are in a fairly no named unit in the south west, but it pays to know your backyard.
When i look for a place to hunt good bulls, i usually look for places with low elk numbers low elk numbers = low people numbers, low people numbers= better age class of bulls.
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Without a doubt kapowsin has the biggest and most. :bash: I would go white river
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Cannot hunt kapowsin even with the incentive tag, you can hunt mashel, but not anything that lies in the kapowsin boundaries. I'd say white river you'll have to put time into which is good if your ok hiking deep, maybe check out south rainier etc. Down there.
I ran into a couple people a few years ago who were drawn for Mashel antlerless muzzleloader permits that fell outside of the general elk seasons when Hancock closes for their elk permits. Hancock allowed them to hunt and harvest because it wasn't during the general elk seasons. I would say it would be worth asking Hancock to make sure since there are still permits available.
If they by chance said yes it is a no brainer where to go.
Hancock allows the late muzzy hunt for cows to happen in the main gate... I can bet money that they will say no to even a incentive tag, only bulls that get hunted are by there drawings in there which sucks for this sort of case, can't hurt to ask but iv herd thru the grape vine from plenty that they will say no
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As said before.... Lewis River, South Rainier for a Cascade Roosie or Quinalt or Clearwater for a real Roosie.
Oh now you started it!
"Cascade Rosie"
Wouldn't that be a "Columbia Coastal Cascade" or is that a "Bench leg Rosie"
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Quinault :tup: I've seen many bulls from that Park border tag, and a couple buddies who have drawn, whopper Rosies!
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:dunno:
What is with all the Naselle suggestions?
There are not any elk there, it is too thick, too steep, and no place to camp...
At least that was the response I got when I asked about area...
The Bulls in that area don't live to be 4.5 years old. Raghorns and brush racks
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:dunno:
What is with all the Naselle suggestions?
There are not any elk there, it is too thick, too steep, and no place to camp...
At least that was the response I got when I asked about area...
The Bulls in that area don't live to be 4.5 years old. Raghorns and brush racks
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:yeah:
Thats more like it!
No elk there... just move along...
:chuckle:
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Westside tag offers a lot of options, depends on what your looking for and what kind of hunting you like. I prefer the 513 and 516 areas and not only because im permitted for those areas but at least you can get away from all the brush and people. The bulls we take out of those units average 320+ but we have taking a few 350+bulls out of there also.If you have any questions dont hesitate to look us up information is free.lol
Good luck on all your hunting adventures
White Pass Outfitters
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320+ average ? Holy smokes
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I've hunted S Rainier a few times and it's tough. Dude the Mosquitoes up in there are enough to quickly drive you out of there in a quick hurry! I'm talking about a dark cloud of bugs all over you! Been there, done that, no thank you! This was in mid -late September for early archery. Even a few scouting trips in Jul/Aug.. Bugs!!!
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If your tag allows, NOOKSACK!
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
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As said before.... Lewis River, South Rainier for a Cascade Roosie or Quinalt or Clearwater for a real Roosie.
Oh now you started it!
"Cascade Rosie"
Wouldn't that be a "Columbia Coastal Cascade" or is that a "Bench leg Rosie"
:yike:
Yep if Elk gets killed down our way its definently a BENCH LEGGER ELK. :chuckle:
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
Seriously. All kinds of treaty tribes up the coast. The elk are dead. If there were any left in the park, they were out competed by mountain goats.
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Hey, it was a nice day for a walk and it was hot outside! :yike:
I'd say if you pick an OP GMU, hit it early. Even set up your camp way early before the other bowhunters start moving in. And don't be too surprised if the tribal hunters are hitting it hard right before each season opens.
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
Seriously. All kinds of treaty tribes up the coast. The elk are dead. If there were any left in the park, they were out competed by mountain goats.
I had a rifle rut tag in one of those units just a few years ago and I can assure you there were plenty of Bulls to be had. I was warned about the tribal hunters. Hunted hard for 8 days. Never saw another hunter in the woods period :yike: Nuff said.
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Westside tag offers a lot of options, depends on what your looking for and what kind of hunting you like. I prefer the 513 and 516 areas and not only because im permitted for those areas but at least you can get away from all the brush and people. The bulls we take out of those units average 320+ but we have taking a few 350+bulls out of there also.If you have any questions dont hesitate to look us up information is free.lol
Good luck on all your hunting adventures
White Pass Outfitters
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If I had the west side incentive tag I wouldn't hunt anywhere else if you want a big bull. If you want to do a back pack hunt. Hunt the goat rocks wilderness area. Hunt it early and don't shoot anything smaller than 320.
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
Seriously. All kinds of treaty tribes up the coast. The elk are dead. If there were any left in the park, they were out competed by mountain goats.
I had a rifle rut tag in one of those units just a few years ago and I can assure you there were plenty of Bulls to be had. I was warned about the tribal hunters. Hunted hard for 8 days. Never saw another hunter in the woods period :yike: Nuff said.
Wasn't that like 8 years ago? :chuckle: Ok, ok, ok. It's decent hunting, but things have changed a little since the timber companies have limited the access. Lot more pressure on public land.
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Quinault, if you're willing to work. Steep, brushy, and road accessible only along the edges. You can get up a lot of the forest service trails as they have been mostly cleared, but a lot of the old game trails we used to use are still a mess from the big wind storm in 2007. with no road access, the remoteness and steepness, the elk in the area don't have to go into the park to get old. Not many elk taken out of that unit any more because most hunters don't want to work that hard. Back when the Quinault Ridge Road was open, people would drop off the top and hunt down to the South shore road, but not so much any more. Two and three mile packs in rough country aren't fun. But the animals are there. The younger sons of an old friend who used to hunt with us still hunt Quinault and they seem to find some mighty nice bulls.
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
Seriously. All kinds of treaty tribes up the coast. The elk are dead. If there were any left in the park, they were out competed by mountain goats.
I had a rifle rut tag in one of those units just a few years ago and I can assure you there were plenty of Bulls to be had. I was warned about the tribal hunters. Hunted hard for 8 days. Never saw another hunter in the woods period :yike: Nuff said.
Seems to have really picked up the last couple of years. Especially early on, but mostly around clear cuts near roads.
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This is a good read about the coast area, five of the currant record book modern firearm Roosevelt elk and three of the archery records come from west end units :yike: And these are fairly recent recordshttp://www.gameandfishmag.com/hunting/hunting_elk-hunting_wo_1108_02/ These units have likely added more records to the books since this article was written Good luck with your great tag you have :tup:
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The West side of the Olympic peninsula is horrible hunting, especially in the Quinault and Queets watersheds. I thought I saw a bull once, but it turned out to be a naked hippy walking down the logging road. I'd stay east of I-5.
Ya, those 2 areas have been pretty shot out................................ NOT :yike:
Seriously. All kinds of treaty tribes up the coast. The elk are dead. If there were any left in the park, they were out competed by mountain goats.
I had a rifle rut tag in one of those units just a few years ago and I can assure you there were plenty of Bulls to be had. I was warned about the tribal hunters. Hunted hard for 8 days. Never saw another hunter in the woods period :yike: Nuff said.
Wasn't that like 8 years ago? :chuckle: Ok, ok, ok. It's decent hunting, but things have changed a little since the timber companies have limited the access. Lot more pressure on public land.
Ok you got me :chuckle: The master hunter requirement keeps this area decent quality. It's a small area with some good honey holes, but you got to work it. My brother hunted with the incentive tag holder last year in that unit. All I can say is I really need to draw this tag before I lose interest in big Rosie bulls :drool:
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tag
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Tag
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Jesus can you guys gone this area any more advertisement?
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Yeah glad that's not my unit that I hunt
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Jesus can you guys gone this area any more advertisement?
Think triple reverse psychology
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If your tag allows, NOOKSACK!
:yeah:
Not many tags. Lots of country if your willing and able.
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Can u hunt gmu 653 up by the PCT/tr2000/gmu346/Park with that tag???If so thats where u should hunt.