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Title: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 07:39:46 PM: Just got a new shotgun! 12 gauge Remingnton 870. I'm fairly new to shotguns, and I have one question.... Do shotguns come with a Choke attached? The manual of my shotgun says not to fire without a Choke, which I've also read on various articles. But don't Chokes go off the end of the shotgun? Or could it possibly be inside the gun already? The manual has a list of all the parts but the Choke isn't on there. And it also talks about how to remove the Choke Tube but doesn't have any pictures. Also is it not safe to shoot until I buy a Choke?
Thanks! -Josie
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: Bob33 on June 23, 2016, 07:41:23 PM: The choke screws into the inside of the bore at the muzzle.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JakeLand on June 23, 2016, 07:43:06 PM: Quote from: Bob33 on June 23, 2016, 07:41:23 PM
The choke screws into the inside of the bore at the muzzle.

It should have came with a wrench that fits inside the barrel they usually come with a modified choke
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JJB11B on June 23, 2016, 07:44:18 PM: If you clear your weapon and look down the muzzle, you should see some notches in the end of the barrel, most modern chokes screw in to the business end of the barrel and are not visible when looking from the side. there should be some slots cut into the choke tube
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JJB11B on June 23, 2016, 07:44:53 PM: Quote from: JJB11B on June 23, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
If you clear your weapon and look down the muzzle, you should see some notches in the end of the barrel, most modern chokes screw in to the business end of the barrel and are not visible when looking from the side. there should be some slots cut into the choke tube
with the choke tube removed there will be visible threads exposed inside the barrel
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: Pete112288 on June 23, 2016, 07:47:12 PM: Here is some pictures and a good diagram. I wish I had a forum to ask questions like this when I was first getting started with all sorts of things. I was just always too afraid to ask someone I already knew cause I thought they would think I was dumb, haha
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: Pete112288 on June 23, 2016, 07:49:05 PM: Oh, and its not that it is unsafe to shoot without a choke, the shot would just destroy the threads inside the muzzle that the choke screws into
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:01:32 PM: Thanks a lot guys!! I just looked and saw where the Choke is. And by those pictures it must be a Cylinder Choke. So I should probably replace it with a modified choke later.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JJB11B on June 23, 2016, 08:02:48 PM: Usually the choke has small hashes cut in the end, or the choke designation etched onto it, it should be in your manual.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: Pete112288 on June 23, 2016, 08:03:23 PM: Also look very closely on the side of it when you take it out. it should say what choke it is. If the gun only came with that 1 then I would assume it is either modefied or improved cylinder
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:04:59 PM: Quote from: Pete112288 on June 23, 2016, 08:03:23 PM
Also look very closely on the side of it when you take it out. it should say what choke it is. If the gun only came with that 1 then I would assume it is either modefied or improved cylinder
Thanks! I'll do that before I buy a new one.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JakeLand on June 23, 2016, 08:12:29 PM: :tup: as a father and a avid outdoorsman I encourage anyone to ask questions before they go forward blind I don't think anyone on this forum would give you bad advise from a legitimate question
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: jmscon on June 23, 2016, 08:14:18 PM: The choke you want to use depends on what you are shooting, clays, ducks, geese, deer, elk, home intruders etc. I.e. You don't want to shoot a slug out of your shotgun with anything other than a cylinder bore choke and you don't want to shoot 00 buck shot with anything more restrictive than a improved cylinder (some might disagree). You'll need to get the right choke for the job.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:16:40 PM: Quote from: JakeLand on June 23, 2016, 08:12:29 PM
:tup: as a father and a avid outdoorsman I encourage anyone to ask questions before they go forward blind I don't think anyone on this forum would give you bad advise from a legitimate question
:yeah: I couldn't even count how many dumb mistakes that I have avoided thanks to these great people.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:18:28 PM: Quote from: jmscon on June 23, 2016, 08:14:18 PM
The choke you want to use depends on what you are shooting, clays, ducks, geese, deer, elk, home intruders etc. I.e. You don't want to shoot a slug out of your shotgun with anything other than a cylinder bore choke and you don't want to shoot 00 buck shot with anything more restrictive than a improved cylinder (some might disagree). You'll need to get the right choke for the job.
Thanks! I'll make sure to do that
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: wadu1 on June 23, 2016, 08:38:20 PM: Standard choke identification
Choke Type Identification (Notches)
Full Choke: I notch
Improved Modified: II notches
Modified: III notches
Improved Cylinder: IIII notches
Cylinder: IIIII notches
For what it's worth I shoot 6 to 7 K rounds a year on Sporting Clays. And 99% are with an IC and the rest is with Skeet and or Cylinder. With an Auto Loader or Pump gun it's IC.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: BigGoonTuna on June 25, 2016, 05:48:24 AM: i've never seen a rem choke with those notches, but my browning and benelli have them.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on June 28, 2016, 01:59:00 PM: Quote from: wadu1 on June 23, 2016, 08:38:20 PM
Standard choke identification
Choke Type Identification (Notches)
Full Choke: I notch
Improved Modified: II notches
Modified: III notches
Improved Cylinder: IIII notches
Cylinder: IIIII notches
For what it's worth I shoot 6 to 7 K rounds a year on Sporting Clays. And 99% are with an IC and the rest is with Skeet and or Cylinder. With an Auto Loader or Pump gun it's IC.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JLS on June 28, 2016, 02:23:55 PM: Quote from: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:01:32 PM
Thanks a lot guys!! I just looked and saw where the Choke is. And by those pictures it must be a Cylinder Choke. So I should probably replace it with a modified choke later.

FWIW, I do a lot of bird hunting (primarily upland, but some waterfowl) and my IC choke rarely leaves my gun. The only time it does is for late season birds and then I will switch over to a modified.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on July 05, 2016, 09:54:32 PM: Quote from: JLS on June 28, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:01:32 PM
Thanks a lot guys!! I just looked and saw where the Choke is. And by those pictures it must be a Cylinder Choke. So I should probably replace it with a modified choke later.

FWIW, I do a lot of bird hunting (primarily upland, but some waterfowl) and my IC choke rarely leaves my gun. The only time it does is for late season birds and then I will switch over to a modified.

do you use IC choke for skeet shooting too?
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: JLS on July 05, 2016, 09:57:27 PM: Quote from: police women of America on July 05, 2016, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: JLS on June 28, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:01:32 PM
Thanks a lot guys!! I just looked and saw where the Choke is. And by those pictures it must be a Cylinder Choke. So I should probably replace it with a modified choke later.

FWIW, I do a lot of bird hunting (primarily upland, but some waterfowl) and my IC choke rarely leaves my gun. The only time it does is for late season birds and then I will switch over to a modified.

do you use IC choke for skeet shooting too?

Yes, as a tune up for hunting season. If I was shooting for score, I'd probably opt for a cylinder or a skeet choke.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on July 05, 2016, 10:11:39 PM: Quote from: JLS on July 05, 2016, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: police women of America on July 05, 2016, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: JLS on June 28, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: police women of America on June 23, 2016, 08:01:32 PM
Thanks a lot guys!! I just looked and saw where the Choke is. And by those pictures it must be a Cylinder Choke. So I should probably replace it with a modified choke later.

FWIW, I do a lot of bird hunting (primarily upland, but some waterfowl) and my IC choke rarely leaves my gun. The only time it does is for late season birds and then I will switch over to a modified.

do you use IC choke for skeet shooting too?

Yes, as a tune up for hunting season. If I was shooting for score, I'd probably opt for a cylinder or a skeet choke.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: wadu1 on July 05, 2016, 10:19:26 PM: To answer your question "do you use IC choke for skeet shooting too?" Yes I do most of the time, I don't shoot skeet for score. For trap, I''ll use a Light -Mod or MOD, Skeet a IC or Skeet but for sporting clays it's always an IC unless its a close target and the Skeet/CL and sometimes on a longer target I might put in an Light-MOD. I tend to change my shot size for the shooting station (sporting clays) trap and skeet are fixed distances.
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 06, 2016, 07:17:53 AM: You may find this helpful.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/long-guns/longgun_reviews_st_headintheclouds_201002/

"The disks are color-coded to indicate distance from the muzzle and
carefully sized to the exact diameter of the killing pattern at that distance. Distance in yards: orange, 10; yellow, 15; caramel, 20; red, 25; maroon, 30; medium blue, 35; dark blue, 40; gray, 45; dark gray, 50. (Bottom) Viewed from the rear, it is equally startling to see the way killing patterns drop off."

Read more: http://www.shootingtimes.com/long-guns/longgun_reviews_st_headintheclouds_201002/#ixzz4Ddcq5LhR
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on July 06, 2016, 06:25:49 PM: Quote from: wadu1 on July 05, 2016, 10:19:26 PM
To answer your question "do you use IC choke for skeet shooting too?" Yes I do most of the time, I don't shoot skeet for score. For trap, I''ll use a Light -Mod or MOD, Skeet a IC or Skeet but for sporting clays it's always an IC unless its a close target and the Skeet/CL and sometimes on a longer target I might put in an Light-MOD. I tend to change my shot size for the shooting station (sporting clays) trap and skeet are fixed distances.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Shotgun Choke question
Post by: police women of America on July 06, 2016, 06:26:27 PM: Quote from: huntingfool7 on July 06, 2016, 07:17:53 AM
You may find this helpful.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/long-guns/longgun_reviews_st_headintheclouds_201002/

"The disks are color-coded to indicate distance from the muzzle and
carefully sized to the exact diameter of the killing pattern at that distance. Distance in yards: orange, 10; yellow, 15; caramel, 20; red, 25; maroon, 30; medium blue, 35; dark blue, 40; gray, 45; dark gray, 50. (Bottom) Viewed from the rear, it is equally startling to see the way killing patterns drop off."

Read more: http://www.shootingtimes.com/long-guns/longgun_reviews_st_headintheclouds_201002/#ixzz4Ddcq5LhR
Thank you!