Hunting Washington Forum
Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: krout81 on June 28, 2016, 08:30:42 AM
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Has anyone seen the permit process and where to apply or who to call? July 1st is coming up fast.
:'( I was pretty sad the other day when I saw a deer hit that was fresh enough for me to pick up on my way to work. :'(
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http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/game_salvaging/
This is all I've been able to drum up. Haven't look real hard though to be honest.
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
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That's all I have found as well. Figured the updates would go on the link at the site, but hoping it was out and I am just blind.
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
I can see the need for the law or we'd get someone in a dark chevy pickup pulling over with no lights on I-90 and get creamed by traffic. Or popping off rounds in a residential no shooting area.
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
I can see the need for the law or we'd get someone in a dark chevy pickup pulling over with no lights on I-90 and get creamed by traffic. Or popping off rounds in a residential no shooting area.
Or even shooting a deer standing along the road and then claiming it had been hit. I definitely see the reason for the "no shooting" rule.
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
I can see the need for the law or we'd get someone in a dark chevy pickup pulling over with no lights on I-90 and get creamed by traffic. Or popping off rounds in a residential no shooting area.
Or even shooting a deer standing along the road and then claiming it had been hit. I definitely see the reason for the "no shooting" rule.
It’s actually a “no killing” law … That being said a baseball bat wound looks a lot like a wound inflicted by a bumper.
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
I can see the need for the law or we'd get someone in a dark chevy pickup pulling over with no lights on I-90 and get creamed by traffic. Or popping off rounds in a residential no shooting area.
Or even shooting a deer standing along the road and then claiming it had been hit. I definitely see the reason for the "no shooting" rule.
It’s actually a “no killing” law … That being said a baseball bat wound looks a lot like a wound inflicted by a bumper.
Thanks for clarification! :tup:
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
If you call the Sheriff and tell them about a wounded road hit animal, and tell them you have means to put it down, at least in Thurston county, they will tell you to kill it. Then you call WDFW to salvage.
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State patrol has told me once before to just shoot it...my luck though, I'll find the boyscout cop that wants to write the ticket, I hit a deer about a week ago, no cell service in the area, It had at least 2 messed up legs and had been drug under my truck for about 50 feet or more..........It was still alive when I got back to it. It wasn't alive a few seconds later and was no longer suffering
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I like how it is still illegal to kill a wounded animal....The idiots who write these policies have probably never seen nor heard an animal that has been struck by a vehicle and suffering
I will pull the trigger, some laws were just made to be broken. How can the game department ask us to be ethical, (watch your image hunters BS) and expect us to follow this law....I will take the ticket to trial.
I can see the need for the law or we'd get someone in a dark chevy pickup pulling over with no lights on I-90 and get creamed by traffic. Or popping off rounds in a residential no shooting area.
Or even shooting a deer standing along the road and then claiming it had been hit. I definitely see the reason for the "no shooting" rule.
Come on, you saying the department is SOOOO stupid they can't figure the difference?? If a cop is that stupid, he should not be in uniform, period!
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I think that they are still trying to figure out how much to charge for the permit :dunno: :chuckle:
But on a serious note, I find it interesting that you can only salvage deer and elk.
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There is a new link on the page
http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/game_salvaging/
The new rule requires that anyone who salvages a deer or elk carcass obtain a free permit.
The state’s new road-kill salvage rule is codified in
WAC 232-12-287 - Possession of dead wildlife - which states:
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An individual must obtain a free salvage permit within 24 hours of taking possession of a deer or elk killed in a motor vehicle collision.
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The entire carcass, including entrails, of the animal must be removed from the road right-of-way.
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Individuals cannot kill an injured deer or elk they find in order to get a salvage permit.
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Big game licenses and tags cannot be used in lieu of a salvage permit for deer or elk killed in a motor vehicle collision.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/game_salvaging/roadkill_salvage_factsheet.pdf
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Wow, that truck didn't take that hit well.
Thanks for sharing.
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Wow, that truck didn't take that hit well.
Thanks for sharing.
sure it did, Mushroomed very nicely. :chuckle: :sry:
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Wow, that truck didn't take that hit well.
Thanks for sharing.
sure it did, Mushroomed very nicely. :chuckle: :sry:
:chuckle: it's a 2012 or 13 Dodge Ram 1 ton I believe, heavy on the Ram
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Highway 20 Hamilton. Brother-in-law. Sorry had to do some revisions.
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WOW, with that amount of damage to the truck, one would think that bull would have exploded. Glad I drive a Chevy after seeing that. :chuckle:
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:chuckle:
WOW, with that amount of damage to the truck, one would think that bull would have exploded. Glad I drive a Chevy after seeing that. :chuckle:
[/quoteWOW, with that amount of damage to the truck, one would think that bull would have exploded. Glad I drive a Chevy after seeing that. :chuckle:
That's funny. It happen so fast, 60 m.p.h. He was a big boy. Getting him mounted. $65,000 worth
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So it has been one year now since the rule went into effect. Check out this article on the stats.
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/1610-roadkilled-deer-elk-salvaged-in-first-year-of-washington-program/
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Bloated boar anyone....Couple years ago before you could claim road kill. Someone did take the head and feet after a couple days.
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:puke:
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Just follow me down the highway. Did an emergency stop from 60 MPH with a swerve to miss a huge cow elk in the dark on Highway 410 by the Naches river a few weeks ago. The swerve missed the cow and and put me right into another cow. Somehow I missed them both by a few inches. If you were behind me you would be in the hospital. My wife is still cleaning out her undies and we both can't figure out how I got around them.
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@buckcanyonlodge
Nice bear. Maybe you know, but you still can't salvage bears. Only deer and elk per the new salvage laws.
Maybe you know, but I thought I'd pass it along as a courtesy.
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@buckcanyonlodge
Nice bear. Maybe you know, but you still can't salvage bears. Only deer and elk per the new salvage laws.
Maybe you know, but I thought I'd pass it along as a courtesy.
That makes perfect sense..................HuH. I guess someone could shoot a bear out of season and then dump it on a road and drive over it just to claim it . Right..... This states laws are very confusing from the common sense side. How many road killed bear have you seen?? Thanks for the info..
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I am a numbers geek so these kind of stats are always fun to look at for me. I wish they would have broken down the doe/cow and buck/bull categories into seperate categories and the antler point section as well.
"BY SEX
833 does and cows, and 691 bucks and bulls.
43 were marked down as unknown sex.
BY ANTLER POINTS
230 spikes
141 two-points
81 three-points
59 four-points
32 five-points
17 six-points
4 seven-points.
A bull elk reported by an Auburn resident was written up as having “25” points."
25 point bull elk. :yike:
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I am a numbers geek so these kind of stats are always fun to look at for me. I wish they would have broken down the doe/cow and buck/bull categories into seperate categories and the antler point section as well.
"BY SEX
833 does and cows, and 691 bucks and bulls.
43 were marked down as unknown sex.
BY ANTLER POINTS
230 spikes
141 two-points
81 three-points
59 four-points
32 five-points
17 six-points
4 seven-points.
A bull elk reported by an Auburn resident was written up as having “25” points."
25 point bull elk. :yike:
I wish the antler point was broken out by species...
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I am a numbers geek so these kind of stats are always fun to look at for me. I wish they would have broken down the doe/cow and buck/bull categories into seperate categories and the antler point section as well.
"BY SEX
833 does and cows, and 691 bucks and bulls.
43 were marked down as unknown sex.
BY ANTLER POINTS
230 spikes
141 two-points
81 three-points
59 four-points
32 five-points
17 six-points
4 seven-points.
A bull elk reported by an Auburn resident was written up as having “25” points."
25 point bull elk. :yike:
I think it was a Hunt WA member and he got confused. He meant to post in the "most points without a draw" thread.
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:yeah: :chuckle:
That makes since
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I am a numbers geek so these kind of stats are always fun to look at for me. I wish they would have broken down the doe/cow and buck/bull categories into seperate categories and the antler point section as well.
"BY SEX
833 does and cows, and 691 bucks and bulls.
43 were marked down as unknown sex.
BY ANTLER POINTS
230 spikes
141 two-points
81 three-points
59 four-points
32 five-points
17 six-points
4 seven-points.
A bull elk reported by an Auburn resident was written up as having “25” points."
25 point bull elk. :yike:
I wish the antler point was broken out by species...
My guess is that information is actually available through a "request for information" through the WDFW if someone wanted to make the request. I have done it for other stuff before but just don't have time right now to make the request.
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I thought I remember there being a different thread where guys were sharing stories of salvaging roadkill now that the salvage rule is in effect...did it get moved somewhere in the forum update, or am I just remembering wrong? If you have a better place for this post, let me know or go ahead and move it if you can.
Went on a quick afternoon bear hunt up the canyon from the house, and was on my way home around 9:30 when I came around a sharp corner where deer routinely cross. As I was rounding the corner, there was a woman in orange scrubs (no it was not an orange jumpsuit) walking back up the road with a young (14?) girl with her. I stopped and asked the family if they needed any assistance and if everything was alright, and they told me they had just hit I deer. Well I looked down the road about 20 yards and sure enough, there was a dandy buck laying in the middle of my lane. I looked at the mom and daughter and said, in a somewhat sheepish tone, "Are yall going to, uh, eat that?" The mother chuckled and said that they were both vegetarians. At this point I could see jackpot signs rolling across my eyes. I then subsequently asked, "Well, do you mind if I take it then?" They were more than happy to give it to me, and even helped me load it in my rig! I had a tarp with me for that remote chance that I would come across a bear while hunting, and fortunately used the tarp to line the inside of my wife's Grand Cherokee. She was out of town, so I didn't need to ask permission to put a dead deer in it, right? Anyway, I wish I had driven my truck that night, but the Jeep got by without so much as a drop of blood or deer urine touching the upholstery. Upon dressing the deer, I found that it had been hit in the ribs/abdominal cavity somewhere and ruptured some internal organs, but the meat was perfectly intact. In all, after de-boning and processing the deer, it yielded 28 lbs of meat (there was maybe 3 lbs or less in waste due to contact with rumen contents). I was a little surprised I didn't get more meat, but the buck wasn't huge - 2.5 - 3.5 year old buck (probably the latter). Sure tastes good though! Ground most of it up into burger, and turned the backstraps into steak, stew meat, and fajita meat. For anyone looking for a meat grinder, I have been extremely impressed with my foreign-made $80 Sunmile grinder. It grinds the meat as fast as I can feed it, and has more than paid for itself grinding Alabama deer and hogs, and now WA roadkill deer. I moved back to WA before hunting season had started in Alabama, and got up here after it had ended in WA, so my freezer has been pretty much empty for the past 9 months. This salvaged deer was such a blessing!
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If someone could rotate that last picture, that would be great. Thanks! :tup:
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That's a nice pile of ground deer!
I keep seeing deer on the highway on Whidbey, hope it's making it into someone's freezer, I'm never on my way home!
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jmscon, send me a PM next time you see a dead deer on Whidbey if you don't mind. My dad lives in Coupeville and would love to grab a salvage deer.
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:tup:
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:tup: Just last Friday we drove by a doe that a state patrol was getting ready to put down, headed out for a weekend at Lake Roosevelt so nothing I could do about it :(
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IF I were going to salvage roadkill it would have to be very freshly killed, and I'd check by feel and observation whether major muscle groups were bruised, pelvis broken, etc. and pass on a badly damaged carcass.
IF I were going to salvage roadkill, I'd zip the hide open down the backbone and take outer straps from pelvis to maybe back of ears, shoulders and hams and then the tenderloins, skipping any that were internally bruised and bloodshot. Hang or drape the pieces and let them drip awhile if possible though the gutless method results in juicier meat not as well drained IME but it is fine to eat.
The law says the entire carcass and entrails must be removed from the right of way so I'd drag the remaining carcass off the right of way and only take edible meat, with the gutless and boneless approach.