Post by: Eric M on July 02, 2016, 11:56:26 PM
Post by: Crunchy on July 02, 2016, 11:58:28 PM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 12:04:56 AM
1 1/2 lb pull is an extremely light trigger. Does it do the same at say 3lbs?I haven't tried it heavier. Maybe I'll set it heavier and see, but the trigger as sold is supposed to be able to be set from 1.5 and up. Maybe I should try it a little heavier and see. The stock trigger was breaking at 5 and it's too heavy for me. I was tending to flinch or tighten up before each shot. Thanks.
Post by: huntnphool on July 03, 2016, 12:21:01 AM
1 1/2 lb pull is an extremely light trigger. Does it do the same at say 3lbs?+1, I'd not go lighter than 3 :twocents:
Post by: HvyHorn338 on July 03, 2016, 12:26:06 AM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 12:30:56 AM
I might turn it a little heavier, but it seems like if a trigger is advertising a certain pull, this shouldn't be necessary. I'm still concerned that I might have made a slight error in adjustments.1 1/2 lb pull is an extremely light trigger. Does it do the same at say 3lbs?+1, I'd not go lighter than 3 :twocents:
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 12:36:30 AM
Post by: huntnphool on July 03, 2016, 12:59:29 AM
I'll turn it up to 3 and see if that solves it. I know guys that have their Jewell triggers set this low that don't have this problem, which is why I was thinking I backed the sear off and wasn't exact enough. Thanks for the replies. I'll update later today. I'm just getting aggravated with it now.
Eric, have you shot the rifle at 3, backed it down to 1.5 and actually noticed a difference in your shooting accuracy?
If your rifle has a noticeable difference in accuracy between the two, I'd say it's the shooter and not the trigger/rifle.
Either way, I'm betting you will see no benefit with a 1.5 setting over a 3.0 setting other than user error.
I'd not risk a accidental discharge or injury on the simple fact of trying to get the lightest pull achievable with your setup..........could be a lifetime of regret with that scenario. :twocents:
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 01:19:33 AM
I just did the install so I haven't fired it. User error was the reason I wanted it light. I certainly agree I don't want a negligent discharge or accident to happen, but the trigger advertises at 1.5 and up. I don't think Timney would advertise it if it couldn't be done safely, which is why I still think it's an adjustment issue with the sear. But I'm going to set the trigger weight up for now until I get it figured out.I'll turn it up to 3 and see if that solves it. I know guys that have their Jewell triggers set this low that don't have this problem, which is why I was thinking I backed the sear off and wasn't exact enough. Thanks for the replies. I'll update later today. I'm just getting aggravated with it now.
Eric, have you shot the rifle at 3, backed it down to 1.5 and actually noticed a difference in your shooting accuracy?
If your rifle has a noticeable difference in accuracy between the two, I'd say it's the shooter and not the trigger/rifle.
Either way, I'm betting you will see no benefit with a 1.5 setting over a 3.0 setting other than user error.
I'd not risk a accidental discharge or injury on the simple fact of trying to get the lightest pull achievable with your setup..........could be a lifetime of regret with that scenario. :twocents:
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 03, 2016, 03:44:00 AM
Post by: jasnt on July 03, 2016, 06:18:46 AM
Post by: ndcasla on July 03, 2016, 07:51:23 AM
If it were a bench gun, target gun I 'd maybe go 1 1/2.
You didn't say what make model rifle.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 03, 2016, 08:00:39 AM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 11:16:17 AM
Was this on a savage?Yes it's the Savage Axis. Trying to upgrade the gun into something worth shooting.
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 11:17:20 AM
My timmeny is turned down to just under 2lbs. I can cycle and slam it around very hard with out it firing. It does sound a bit like poor sear ingagement to me.Maybe I should reset it and try again.
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 11:22:23 AM
Maybe give timney a call and they can walk you through set up to make sure it's safe and reliable. As far as trigger weight... That's completely user preference. A 1 lb trigger that functions properly is just as safe as a 3 lb trigger that functions properly. :twocents: that said I try and get all my triggers to 3.5 lb for consistency and I shoot them well thereI'll probably just end up calling them. Wanted to go shoot it maybe tomorrow but I'll just wait. My goal is getting all my triggers the same. The trigger for this gun was breaking at between 5 and 6 lbs. After shooting some really light triggers, it seemed the bullet was out the door before I could flinch. I don't like admitting I flinch, but I do.
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
I am assuming this is a hunting rifle, if so, 1 1/2 lbs is to light, 2 1/2 to 3 lbs is as light as I'd go.I do plan to use it for hunting. It's a Savage Axis chambered in 270. I will probably turn it up some to match my .17 hmr's trigger.
If it were a bench gun, target gun I 'd maybe go 1 1/2.
You didn't say what make model rifle.
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 03, 2016, 06:01:53 PM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
I have the same rifle/caliber and I plan on just changing the spring rather than the entire trigger.I think that would eliminate some of the creep I was getting. I was reading where guys were cutting a couple coils off the spring to lighten the trigger. The spring I got with the Timney trigger is about 1/3rd the size. The process wasn't too hard. Just the fine tuning was a little tough. Thinking about putting a nicer stock on it eventually.
Post by: Reidus on July 03, 2016, 08:32:58 PM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 08:42:14 PM
Savages stamped parts just have too much play in them to safely get a nice light trigger. I went through the same thing and increased the weight until it was safe. I'm guessing it was around 2 pounds. I think I'm going to try the rifle basix trigger next time.One solution I saw on YOUTUBE was to put a 5/16ths nut on the screw where the cover plate goes and it holds everything still. But I agree. I ended up at 2.4 lbs. I'd like to get it down to 2 but I'm tired of messing with it and I want to take it shooting in the morning. At 2.4 I can slam a snap cap in as hard as I can or bang the butt on the ground and I can't get it to misfire. Thanks to everyone for the help!
Post by: jrebel on July 03, 2016, 08:51:55 PM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 09:00:17 PM
Next time buy the savage with the accu trigger. Why buy an entry level axis and pay for an upgraded trigger....probably not much of a savings at the end of the day. Not to mention the Hassel. Glad you got it worked out and hope you have further problems.Good advice. I didn't realize how bad the trigger would be and was in a hurry to buy something, It was a hassle but also good experience. My next purchase of a hunting rifle will be exactly what I want, instead of settling for something.
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 09:16:04 PM
Next time buy the savage with the accu trigger. Why buy an entry level axis and pay for an upgraded trigger....probably not much of a savings at the end of the day. Not to mention the Hassel. Glad you got it worked out and hope you dont have further problems.Thanks for adding the don't haha
Post by: jrebel on July 03, 2016, 11:24:45 PM
Next time buy the savage with the accu trigger. Why buy an entry level axis and pay for an upgraded trigger....probably not much of a savings at the end of the day. Not to mention the Hassel. Glad you got it worked out and hope you dont have further problems.Thanks for adding the don't haha
Yeah when read my comment......I thought.....crap!!!!😂😂
Post by: fish vacuum on July 04, 2016, 01:25:43 AM
Post by: jasnt on July 04, 2016, 09:57:23 AM
If you're flinching, then that's a bigger issue than trigger pull or ammo choice.flinching can be cured by lots of dry fire exercise!
Post by: Eric M on July 04, 2016, 11:45:54 AM
If you're flinching, then that's a bigger issue than trigger pull or ammo choice.Maybe I should say cringing? Basically the problem with a 5 or 6 pound trigger is the anticipation of the trigger dropping. It takes forever, which was making me anticipate. I shot it today. A lighter trigger is helping.
Post by: bobcat on July 04, 2016, 12:12:56 PM
If you're flinching, then that's a bigger issue than trigger pull or ammo choice.Maybe I should say cringing? Basically the problem with a 5 or 6 pound trigger is the anticipation of the trigger dropping. It takes forever, which was making me anticipate. I shot it today. A lighter trigger is helping.
That's exactly what flinching is, and I have the exact same problem. And this is why all my triggers are set to 2 1/2 pounds. It makes a big difference for me.
Post by: Eric M on July 04, 2016, 12:18:53 PM
I have several friends who have really light triggers on bench guns, and I noticed I shot way better with them. I have this trigger at 2.4 lbs and it was a lot better. I'd still like to get it down closer to two. Now I have to get my other guns the same. The 270 was the worst though.If you're flinching, then that's a bigger issue than trigger pull or ammo choice.Maybe I should say cringing? Basically the problem with a 5 or 6 pound trigger is the anticipation of the trigger dropping. It takes forever, which was making me anticipate. I shot it today. A lighter trigger is helping.
That's exactly what flinching is, and I have the exact same problem. And this is why all my triggers are set to 2 1/2 pounds. It makes a big difference for me.