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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: JakeLand on July 03, 2016, 03:35:35 PM
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Took a trip today for some catch and release on the river
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Caught 7 total these were the 3 larger ones it was a fun morning
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Nice! Why did you have to release them? Don't they eat a lot of salmon eggs and smolts?
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They eat more young fish then anything and we do catch and release here
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Like the river Romeos!
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I think years ago there was a bounty on them in Alaska. :tup:
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Caught our fare share of them on the Skagit at Rock Port. Very good eating! Grate pics!!!!! :tup:
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:tup:
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One more
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Damn! Im Jealous! That is sweet!
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Did well catching them on them on the methow with a wedding ring. All were released as well. Years ago.
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They are like Bulldogs in the water it's still early for them give it a month and some real bruisers will be in the rivers :tup:
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I'd love to get after them with a fly rod! Jake, you'll have to tell me your secrets!
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In 2 weekends I'm heading back your welcome to join
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I'll plan on it, definitely something to look forward to!
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Never fly fished but I'm sure some who haves could chime in on what to use or just a big fish pattern???
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I think just a big streamer will work. I've read that white is a good color, anything that is a big and flashy fly.
Are they active at this time of year? Maybe it is that the conditions are just right? Maybe you have a sweet spot!
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Like the river Romeos!
Summer fishing attire :dunno:
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When salmon smolts migrate a small baitfish pattern swung across the current and retrieved up the bank does well. Otherwise flashy and exciting flies that would mimic a spinner or spoon do fine. These particular Char are predatory, and opportunistic, and will chew on quite a few different offerings.
Keep in mind, a few years ago the law changed making it unlawful to completely lift C&R salmon, steelhead, and dollys/bulls completely out of the water. Knotless nets help a bit with this, as do smashed barbs.
Edit, added Bull trout intel from the old North Sound bio: http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/forum/threads/a-skagit-bull-trout-bio.83193/
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When salmon smolts migrate a small baitfish pattern swung across the current and retrieved up the bank does well. Otherwise flashy and exciting flies that would mimic a spinner or spoon do fine. These particular Char are predatory, and opportunistic, and will chew on quite a few different offerings.
Keep in mind, a few years ago the law changed making it unlawful to completely lift C&R salmon, steelhead, and dollys/bulls completely out of the water. Knotless nets help a bit with this, as do smashed barbs.
Edit, added Bull trout intel from the old North Sound bio: http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/forum/threads/a-skagit-bull-trout-bio.83193/
Good read there ! Where we fish it's not mandatory ( in the rules ) we self rule it because we don't see the numbers that we used to plus in my opinion they are not the best table fair just a blast to catch
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Very nice fish! They make for a good fishery that many overlook. They're super aggressive and will hit just about anything that might fit in their mouth.
The fish in those pics are some real pigs!
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I'd love to get after them with a fly rod! Jake, you'll have to tell me your secrets!
Muddler minnows work well. Flashy stuff. I used a purple and Mylar combo of my own creation when I was targeting them sometimes Lots of steelhead stuff. Usually swinging through fast water. They are aggressive.
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Nice .. :tup:
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I thought all bull trout are catch and release.
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On the skagit you can keep if over 20"
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Thanks. I don't keep anything, but I know you can't even target them in Montana, so I didn't think you could keep hem here.
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My opinion they aren't good eating but they are fun to catch and release
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I think years ago there was a bounty on them in Alaska. :tup:
Washington too,I think around the 1950's.
One of the reasons they were named "Bull Trout" I believe was becuase they were known to ram a steelhead or chinook in the belly knocking the eggs out of her to eat.
They are a pretty fish though,fun to fight and are great smoked.
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If you haven't ever caught one you will be surprised at how well they fight ! And they will use the fast water to their advantage that's for sure
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Maybe why the flyfishing clubs wanted to preserve the all mighty Dolly. They are sure thick out there now.
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The "dollies" are thought to be sea-going bull trout per WDFW.
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Well 15 years or so ago we would just nail them and slowly over probably 10 years it wasn't so good but I think they're making a strong comeback and a lot has to do with releasing them I haven't kept one in probably all of 15 years they are a cool fish and very pretty
I encourage people to release them but it's everyones own choice
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I think its mostly the law now to do so. At least most of the waters I fish.
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Great post.
I think I have opened it up 5 times to see the pictures. Way to go. Not a fishery that is talked about much...(that I know of anyway)
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Caught one in the Puyallup while fishing for silvers 3 years ago. Thought it was a silver until I pulled it out.
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The "dollies" are thought to be sea-going bull trout per WDFW.
Not anymore
"Early studies described these fish as a variety of the Arctic char, while later work declared them to be a separate species. For a long time, the bull trout was considered just a localized version of the Dolly Varden. Now many fisheries scientists believe that Dolly Varden and bull trout are two distinct species that look amazingly similar.
Bull trout and Dolly Varden are difficult to distinguish from each other, even for specialists. Dolly Varden tend to have a more rounded body shape while bull trout have a larger, more flattened head and a more pronounced hook on the lower jaw. Some scientists believe that one of the distinguishing characteristics of bull trout is that they do not migrate to saltwater. However, Washington biologists have recently found bull trout in Puget Sound.
Bull trout and Dolly Varden can be distinguished from eastern brook trout by the absence of vermiculations ("worm tracks") on their back. In addition, the eastern brook trout's red spots are surrounded by blue halos. To keep things interesting, though, bull trout and brook trout have been known to spawn together. Their hybrid offspring can have features of both parents. (Hybridization can be a serious problem in some areas, resulting in the dilution or destruction of the gene pool of the native bull trout.)"
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check with the Mill Creek office and you get the opinion that they are bulls. I had an e-discussion with a retired bio out of that office.
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Some good to know facts I would say that these were bull trout if the description is correct
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Almost all bull trout up that way. We released a few on Sunday.
Big black bunny on the fly rod and copper/black spoons on the spinning rod.
Good time fishing for these guys.
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:tup: that 1st one is a brute you get a weight and length ?
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This is a Dolly Varden I caught on the Kenai River Alaska several years ago
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:tup: they are fun
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:tup: that 1st one is a brute you get a weight and length ?
Almost 27" so I guess 7-8 pounds maybe. Was pretty fat.
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Ya full round good looking fish
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Any wild fish like those are true trophies in my book. I'm looking forward to getting up there!
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Any wild fish like those are true trophies in my book. I'm looking forward to getting up there!
That's very true that's why we do what we do :IBCOOL:
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Pretty fish!
Hooked one on the Tieton River many years ago that would have topped three feet if I taped it. I managed to get it in close after a huge run downriver but busted it off five feet in front of me when I got cocky with it. What a fish!
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When I was in Naknek Alaska, we would send wheelbarrow loads of them through the grinder and back out to the river...
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Ya up north they are a pest fish we would catch a lot but the sizes down here seem bigger
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White streamer. Swing.
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Couple skykomish river Dolly's this morning
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When I was a kid we fished for Dolly Varden and Kamloops Rainbows in Kootenay Lake, BC many times every year. I usually rigged up for the Kamloops, but my dad favored the Dollies, his best Dolly was 14 pounds and some change, I miss those fishing trips. One time I even caught a huge 8 pound burbot while trolling for big trout, that was a surprise to reel that thing in, it was my biggest burbot ever and I caught it on a big plug! :chuckle:
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14 lb dolly WOW !!! I've caught some in the 9-10 lb range but nothing like that! I've heard those kamloops bows really fight :tup:
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Now you're fishing on the Sky Jake? I have to get down there! Were you wading or fishing from a boat?
How's the Sultan Shin Dig?
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Ya Lauren's game was at 8:45 this morning so went for about an 1.5 hours. I woke up at 4:30 and decided what the hell I hooked 9 and landed 6 one of them I lost was probably the biggest so far this year! I was in n shorts and romeo's just wading around
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I may just have to get out there tomorrow morning, throw a few flies. Were you above the falls?
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Above the mouth of the Wallace river
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14 lb dolly WOW !!! I've caught some in the 9-10 lb range but nothing like that! I've heard those kamloops bows really fight :tup:
The only places I've heard of them that big is in the big lakes like Kootenay and Lake Pend Orielle.
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Hit the river again only got 2 dollies but Hooked and lost a big king
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14 lb dolly WOW !!! I've caught some in the 9-10 lb range but nothing like that! I've heard those kamloops bows really fight :tup:
The only places I've heard of them that big is in the big lakes like Kootenay and Lake Pend Orielle.
Dale, there is a place on the westside where the Dollies are as long as your arm. I have never weighed them, so I can't say for sure on that one. But they are there, no doubt about it. I might even be able to draw you a map. 8)
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i caught one in the lower teens from the skokomish river where it runs into lake cushman back in 2000.
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About a mile up the trail from the Cushman Rangers Station use to be the "Dolley hole" My dad and uncle use to pull a lot of fish out of that hole.