Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 09:04:34 PM
Post by: Shed Stud on July 03, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
Post by: Eric M on July 03, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
?? There are maybe only a handful of wt in 251 if any. I've only ever seen one. That is mule deer countryI was just bored and noticed it. General and muzzleloader are any buck for whitetail there. Just thought it was odd.
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2016, 08:33:31 AM
?? There are maybe only a handful of wt in 251 if any. I've only ever seen one. That is mule deer countryI was just bored and noticed it. General and muzzleloader are any buck for whitetail there. Just thought it was odd.
Those GMU's are managed for mule deer and elk. They don't want whitetails there and there are hardly any either way, but if they are there, they want them gone, so they'll let the gun guys shoot them if they see them. Definitely not a destination area I'd look at for whitetails. You could go literally years without seeing one I bet.
Post by: Eric M on July 05, 2016, 10:14:53 AM
I'm not planning on hunt whitetail there. I just thought if they were managing for a certain species, they would make all the regulations super easy. Muzzleloader and modern are any buck, but there is nothing listed for archery. Just thought it was odd. I appreciate the answer. I was reading the regs for this area and noticed this and thought it was curious that WDFW wrote it the way they did. So- There are basically no whitetail in this area, but if you are unsuccessful at your mule deer hunt and on your way back to the truck and happen to see a whitetail, feel free to shoot any buck- Unless you are on your way back to the truck during bow season. Just seems odd.?? There are maybe only a handful of wt in 251 if any. I've only ever seen one. That is mule deer countryI was just bored and noticed it. General and muzzleloader are any buck for whitetail there. Just thought it was odd.
Those GMU's are managed for mule deer and elk. They don't want whitetails there and there are hardly any either way, but if they are there, they want them gone, so they'll let the gun guys shoot them if they see them. Definitely not a destination area I'd look at for whitetails. You could go literally years without seeing one I bet.
Post by: jackelope on July 05, 2016, 10:38:25 AM
Maybe it's got something to do with success rates of gun hunters versus bowhunters in terms of how bad they want the whitetails gone. I totally just made that up. No idea if that's even a thing.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 05, 2016, 01:18:20 PM
@DOUBLELUNGUsually, restricting harvest for a user group within a district in one or more GMUs is a tool for reducing success toward equalizing success rates (resource allocation). In this case, I'm guessing either an oversight, or in answer to complaints from one of the agricultural operators who has whitetails and has had issues with early season archers - just a guess.
Maybe it's got something to do with success rates of gun hunters versus bowhunters in terms of how bad they want the whitetails gone. I totally just made that up. No idea if that's even a thing.
As noted above, there are VERY few whitetails in GMU 251, in 15 years living in the GMU and having spent a fair amount of time in the field, I've seen less than 10 total - and the most in a group 3. I only know one location in 251 that has whitetails on a regular basis, and a second I suspect (I've seen two roadkill at the same location in different years, but never a live one). I have seen two, total, on public land, and those were just above the private where they are normally found.
The further north one goes in Chelan County, the more likely one is to encounter whitetails; but they are still very scarce until you get to the eastern part of the Lake Chelan basin.
Post by: Eric M on July 05, 2016, 01:26:24 PM
Thanks for the detailed response.@DOUBLELUNGUsually, restricting harvest for a user group within a district in one or more GMUs is a tool for reducing success toward equalizing success rates (resource allocation). In this case, I'm guessing either an oversight, or in answer to complaints from one of the agricultural operators who has whitetails and has had issues with early season archers - just a guess.
Maybe it's got something to do with success rates of gun hunters versus bowhunters in terms of how bad they want the whitetails gone. I totally just made that up. No idea if that's even a thing.
As noted above, there are VERY few whitetails in GMU 251, in 15 years living in the GMU and having spent a fair amount of time in the field, I've seen less than 10 total - and the most in a group 3. I only know one location in 251 that has whitetails on a regular basis, and a second I suspect (I've seen two roadkill at the same location in different years, but never a live one). I have seen two, total, on public land, and those were just above the private where they are normally found.
The further north one goes in Chelan County, the more likely one is to encounter whitetails; but they are still very scarce until you get to the eastern part of the Lake Chelan basin.
Post by: muleracks on July 09, 2016, 10:53:30 AM
Post by: scoutdog346 on July 14, 2016, 04:34:06 AM