Post by: HunterofWA on July 14, 2016, 05:36:29 PM
Thanks!
Jeremy
P.S Here's the links to what I'm planning on getting
https://www.farmstore.com/product/grainland-select-whole-corn-50-lb
https://www.farmstore.com/product/grainland-select-cracked-corn-50-lb/
Do you think this would work well to? (it's a lot cheaper :P )
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Family-Farm-Cracked-And-Cleaned-Corn-Animal-Feed-40-lb/10323561
Post by: kirkl on July 15, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Post by: Antlershed on July 15, 2016, 02:11:57 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
Wet cob. Mule deer and elk love it. Can't think a blacky wouldn't like it.
What time of year did they consume the most?
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Post by: skeeter 20i on July 15, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
Wet cob. Mule deer and elk love it. Can't think a blacky wouldn't like it.
Bears absolutely love the stuff. :bash:
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:20:08 PM
Wet cob. Mule deer and elk love it. Can't think a blacky wouldn't like it.
Bears absolutely love the stuff. :bash:
I don't have any bears around here thankfully! Just coons' :bash: there so anoying
Post by: kirkl on July 15, 2016, 04:04:38 PM
Summer and fall where I'm at. Eastern Washington. They'll eat one of the blocks in 2-4 days easy.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 07:56:58 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 08:03:02 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 16, 2016, 08:05:12 AM
Post by: fishnfur on July 16, 2016, 08:08:54 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 08:57:13 AM
Post by: kirkl on July 16, 2016, 03:07:38 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 16, 2016, 03:12:59 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
:chuckle:
Post by: Bango skank on July 16, 2016, 03:21:07 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
It seems you missed the last post, where he decreed that we were all to stop responding to the thread. You are in direct violation. Oh crap, so am i... RUN!
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 16, 2016, 03:49:12 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
It seems you missed the last post, where he decreed that we were all to stop responding to the thread. You are in direct violation. Oh crap, so am i... RUN!
We were directed to stop posting in this forum. No Huntwa fo you
Post by: Bango skank on July 16, 2016, 03:56:29 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
It seems you missed the last post, where he decreed that we were all to stop responding to the thread. You are in direct violation. Oh crap, so am i... RUN!
We were directed to stop posting in this forum. No Huntwa fo you
Hey, somebody call bruce springsteen and tell him to get a new nickname. Apparently this guys already "the boss." :chuckle:
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
Post by: fish vacuum on July 16, 2016, 04:31:02 PM
Post by: dadeo316 on July 16, 2016, 04:59:25 PM
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Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
Post by: fishnfur on July 16, 2016, 08:32:38 PM
Hellooo?
A bit bossy are we? Figure it out yourself if your not getting enough answers.
It seems you missed the last post, where he decreed that we were all to stop responding to the thread. You are in direct violation. Oh crap, so am i... RUN!
We were directed to stop posting in this forum. No Huntwa fo you
Hey, somebody call bruce springsteen and tell him to get a new nickname. Apparently this guys already "the boss." :chuckle:
Crap! So this is what hell is like....? A dead thread, unmercifully killed by it's creator, and misinformation hanging out like souring bait for unsuspecting travelers wandering in the dark........
WDFW does not care a bit about coyotes nor the plight of deer preyed upon by these wretched animals. All part of Gods plan and completely unfunded by license sales. This rule is only a poor attempt to make both sides of the baiting issue "happy".
Put out eleven pounds of bait and be stricken dead says I! Put them 190 yards apart and be damned to Hell!!
WDFW cares very little about Blacktail deer beyond the revenue they generate. If there are some deer to kill, life is very good. If numbers are down, then the price of hunting tags must rise to protect them. If the numbers of hunters decline, then the prices of hunting tags must also rise, (but we're still working on a good reason why).
(just to be clear, I'm not in favor of baiting, at least not by that spelling, but to each, his own). 8)
Post by: pd on July 16, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
10 gallons at a time, right? :rolleyes:
Post by: fishnfur on July 16, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
Fatten 'em up PD. :tup:
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 09:09:24 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on July 17, 2016, 12:10:00 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 17, 2016, 01:36:23 PM
Post by: fish vacuum on July 17, 2016, 04:00:06 PM
Has anyone had success with Purina antler max pellets? Do you know what flavor the Antlermax watershield deer 16 pellets are?It's a special blend Purina won't share.
From their website, "Strong proprietary flavor to attract deer and elk"
If you want to supplement their diet for antler growth, you're too late. Most of the antler growth has taken place for the year.
When it comes to Blacktails and bait/supplements/attractants, they'll hit them consistently in spring and early summer. Then they will gradually lose interest. I get several hundred pics a month in spring, then it gradually slows down. During October I may only get a few dozen pics.
Blacktails are like goats...they can eat anything. And their environment is usually filled with food.
Post by: fishnfur on July 18, 2016, 01:27:28 PM
Neighbors with apple trees that don't collect the fruit are another great free source. One of my big apple trees is just now getting serious about dropping fruit. We have at least 50 apples on the ground already. Craigslist often has numerous listings for free fruit to those that come to pick it. Think outside the box and you'll likely come up with enough bait to keep the animals coming in to your cam.
Post by: fish vacuum on July 18, 2016, 01:33:57 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 18, 2016, 06:04:05 PM
Most of the successful bait & camera posts I've seen over the last six years typically included apples, lettuces and other salad greens, and a mix of other produce. If I was serious about it, I would either talk to the produce manager at a big grocery store about purchasing they produce they throw out once expired (at a greatly reduced rate) or attempt to dumpster dive for the discarded veggies and fruit.
Neighbors with apple trees that don't collect the fruit are another great free source. One of my big apple trees is just now getting serious about dropping fruit. We have at least 50 apples on the ground already. Craigslist often has numerous listings for free fruit to those that come to pick it. Think outside the box and you'll likely come up with enough bait to keep the animals coming in to your cam.
We have plenty of apples around here so I don't think that will be much of a problem. I've decided that for my trail camera survey, I'm going to use about 40% cracked corn, and 60% wet COB, mix it, and put it in my PVC feeder.
Post by: fishnfur on July 18, 2016, 09:09:37 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 19, 2016, 08:16:30 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 20, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
Post by: Whitenuckles on July 20, 2016, 05:36:23 PM
Post by: kirkl on July 20, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
Post by: Caseknife on July 20, 2016, 08:56:12 PM
Ok ok... I'm not that into baiting either... but when there is only 2 weeks for modern firearm season I can get the idea that deer hunters feel panicked and would really like to not eat tag soup! :twocents:Basically that is why it is referred to as "hunting season" not killing season. Learn the habits of the deer prior to the season and you will have a much better chance of catching up to one in the short seasons that we have. Usually with bait, you will attract more does and fawns than bucks because there is a higher percentage of does and fawns than bucks in any ungulate population.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 21, 2016, 08:00:24 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 21, 2016, 08:03:35 AM
I thought we were directed to no longer respond to this thread? 😄 I had so much more info 😄
Feel free to respond some more if you have more info you'd like to share! The reason I'm on this forum is to learn!
Post by: 180-GRAIN on July 21, 2016, 08:17:42 AM
Wet cob. Mule deer and elk love it. Can't think a blacky wouldn't like it.
Bears absolutely love the stuff. :bash:
That was my problem. I would have deer for a week or so then bears would show up and destroy the area and eat everything. Even took a dump on my salt block after eating all the food.
Post by: fishnfur on July 21, 2016, 10:14:17 PM
Post by: pd on July 23, 2016, 09:36:12 PM
Apples. Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Post by: fishnfur on July 23, 2016, 11:14:16 PM
BTW - the racks on all those bucks look very similar in shape and width. Dad must have been a polygamist. Also, I'm betting there's a much bigger buck running those woods that doesn't hang out with those youngsters.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 24, 2016, 08:54:52 AM
Post by: pd on July 24, 2016, 10:24:09 AM
Post by: scoutdog346 on July 24, 2016, 11:10:49 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 24, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
I've never had much luck baiting black tail but mule deer yes. Little more luck baiting west side elk but lots more with east side elk them west. Its seems like east side game r way more responsive then west
There's not as much food on the east side.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 28, 2016, 06:07:21 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 28, 2016, 06:09:58 PM
Post by: pd on July 28, 2016, 07:15:04 PM
Sorry to keep this thread going, but I have put out 30 gallons of apples total now, and a doe her fawn have eaten them all up in a week! So I'm looking for something that will last longer but not make a big hole in the ground because the deer like it so much. Has anyone had success with Wild game inovations powder Crush products? how about c'mere deer?
My advice to you is to stick with the apples only.
1. Very best attractant in my opinion, better than anything you can buy at the store.
2. Free.
3. Available in different flavors & colors from July through October.
4. You want the doe to be eating your apples.
Remember, bucks come looking for does, not the other way around (c'mon, Kid, you are in high school, right?...). You are already doing the right thing, now stick with it!
Post by: HunterofWA on July 29, 2016, 09:52:59 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on August 01, 2016, 08:53:30 AM
Back on topic.
Apples. Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Fish&Fur, do you notice the buck in the foreground is a zero by three?
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F2vvqr02.jpg&hash=0e83ffd568d41932e4c6bc59a64d5391cf53a9a1)
You hunting that place this year? :drool:
Post by: pd on August 02, 2016, 09:37:06 AM
You hunting that place this year? :drool:
8)
I am not sure what I am going to do this year.
Post by: HunterofWA on August 12, 2016, 10:39:19 AM
Post by: fishnfur on August 12, 2016, 05:21:42 PM
For the most part, BTs are not lacking nutrients nor tasty treats that draw them to a food source. A mineral block or salt lick, for the most part, will only bring in bucks in the early spring. Apples and fresh veggies have proven to be the best bait for hunters over the years, and work the entire year. Spending $20 or more to buy a bag to buy some magic blend of deer attractant may make you think that it worked successfully if you happen to score a buck during the season. In reality, you're just paying hard earned (?) dollars for a product that is often just a random mix of bone, fruit or some other proven attractant that now costs ten times what it should to cover the cost of marketing while providing millions in profits to the supplier.
I recommend you keep working on your food plot and spend some time figuring out the best spots to place a stand so that you can intercept the traffic to and from that plot. Save your dollars for your hunting gear.
Post by: Axle on August 12, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
Thanks for all your answers guys! I think I'm done so you don't have to respond to this forum any more. ;)
And this is why I'm still reading this thread. It just starts to get better after a reply like this.
OK, where did I leave the popcorn......
Post by: HunterofWA on August 13, 2016, 08:31:24 AM
Personally, I think you're heading in the wrong direction. I think a food plot is a nice idea, and given about 4 -5 years of work, you may develop a dedicated group of BTs that routinely feed in your garden. There are plenty of BT hunters who target deer that frequent agricultural areas and they routinely score nice bucks by placing tree stands or blinds in the staging areas and/or on travel trails associated with the food growing in that ag. area.
For the most part, BTs are not lacking nutrients nor tasty treats that draw them to a food source. A mineral block or salt lick, for the most part, will only bring in bucks in the early spring. Apples and fresh veggies have proven to be the best bait for hunters over the years, and work the entire year. Spending $20 or more to buy a bag to buy some magic blend of deer attractant may make you think that it worked successfully if you happen to score a buck during the season. In reality, you're just paying hard earned (?) dollars for a product that is often just a random mix of bone, fruit or some other proven attractant that now costs ten times what it should to cover the cost of marketing while providing millions in profits to the supplier.
I recommend you keep working on your food plot and spend some time figuring out the best spots to place a stand so that you can intercept the traffic to and from that plot. Save your dollars for your hunting gear.
OK I think I'll stick to that then.
Post by: pd on August 13, 2016, 12:59:27 PM
Save your dollars for your hunting gear.
OK I think I'll stick to that then.
Good advice from F&F. Game cameras are a great investment, in my experience. If you study the results, you will learn a lot about BT behavior. Watch the trends in appearance: Do the bucks come in only at nighttime, or do they come as well early in the a.m. or at dusk? Solitary, or with other bucks? Are there any does with them? And so on. Try to identify each buck by markings, and then you will notice who makes a random appearance, and who is local.
"Hunting gear" should also include equipment that makes you a better hunter, such as cameras. I troll Craig's List in the off season, looking for other gear such as tree stands; no need to purchase new.
Finally, do not rue the 20# bucket of apples, carry two for the balance, do it every week from July to October. You will reap the rewards of your labor. :tup:
Post by: HunterofWA on August 13, 2016, 03:28:13 PM
Post by: fishnfur on August 13, 2016, 04:24:49 PM
Save your dollars for your hunting gear.
OK I think I'll stick to that then.
Good advice from F&F. Game cameras are a great investment, in my experience. If you study the results, you will learn a lot about BT behavior. Watch the trends in appearance: Do the bucks come in only at nighttime, or do they come as well early in the a.m. or at dusk? Solitary, or with other bucks? Are there any does with them? And so on. Try to identify each buck by markings, and then you will notice who makes a random appearance, and who is local.
"Hunting gear" should also include equipment that makes you a better hunter, such as cameras. A troll Craig's List in the off season, looking for other gear such as tree stands; no need to purchase new.
Finally, do not rue the 20# bucket of apples, carry two for the balance, do it every week from July to October. You will reap the rewards of your labor. :tup:
PD - Is it just me? Every season the megapixel image size keeps going up on trail cams. Personally, I was fine with 5 MP. What the heck am I going to do with a 20 MP image of a doe and fawn. You can't store many of them without killing your hard drive, so either you store them on some cloud somewhere or delete virtually all of them. If I'm shooting a SLR camera and aiming for photographic excellence, 20 MP is great. In a trail cam, anything above 8 MP seems just total silliness. I just want to see how many points there are on the rack. I don't care about seeing the fine hairs inside their nostrils.
Hunters-o'-WA - Regarding the $50 stand. If you're talking tree stand - don't risk your life or health on questionable gear. Tree stands are not the place to be cheap and save a few bucks. If you've found a great one for $50, then you've made a major score. Look around for reviews to ensure you're getting a good one.
Post by: Bango skank on August 14, 2016, 02:39:28 AM
Save your dollars for your hunting gear.
OK I think I'll stick to that then.
Good advice from F&F. Game cameras are a great investment, in my experience. If you study the results, you will learn a lot about BT behavior. Watch the trends in appearance: Do the bucks come in only at nighttime, or do they come as well early in the a.m. or at dusk? Solitary, or with other bucks? Are there any does with them? And so on. Try to identify each buck by markings, and then you will notice who makes a random appearance, and who is local.
"Hunting gear" should also include equipment that makes you a better hunter, such as cameras. A troll Craig's List in the off season, looking for other gear such as tree stands; no need to purchase new.
Finally, do not rue the 20# bucket of apples, carry two for the balance, do it every week from July to October. You will reap the rewards of your labor. :tup:
PD - Is it just me? Every season the megapixel image size keeps going up on trail cams. Personally, I was fine with 5 MP. What the heck am I going to do with a 20 MP image of a doe and fawn. You can't store many of them without killing your hard drive, so either you store them on some cloud somewhere or delete virtually all of them.
"Some cloud somewhere" aka huntwa. Easy place to store good pics.
Post by: HunterofWA on August 14, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
Post by: pd on August 14, 2016, 12:08:20 PM
Just a few more weeks until Rocktober! :tup:
Post by: fishnfur on August 14, 2016, 07:58:09 PM
I've tried to put names to my animals. They all get named "BT deer", forkie, or doe. They all look the same to me.
- H.O.W. - sounds like you've done your homework. Use that harness at all times. The majority of falling injuries occur as the hunter transfers from ladder/steps to the stand, and vice versa.
Post by: shadowless_nite on August 19, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
I contacted the WDFW and they said IS legal to bait/supplemental feed deer. but the bait piles can't exceed 10 gallons, but if they do, they need to be at least 200 yards apart. I think it's because they don't want coyotes taking advantage of the deer being in such close proximity.
Ummm im pretty sure the new baiting rule doesn't have anything to do with coyotes and deer being in close proximity. ..... :dunno:
On another note, I've baited consistently the last 5 years in the battleground unit. I've noticed these black tail that are local to atleast some developed areas are picky. I've tried cracked worn, wet cob, molasses mixes etc and they hardly touch it. The birds eat more of it than anything. Deer that prowl through countryside homes are spoiled and the only sure fire way to get them to your bait is with fruit. Particularly apples! However they hit pears just as hard.
Also tried the purina pellets (garbage imho), deer Caine (not sure if it worked as i put apples at the same time) and a few others. I've tested blacktail estrus scent on rags during rut over bait piles with does and no luck.
The deer that do hit corn or wet cob/oat type mixes are usually more domesticated or to an extent trained such as true backyard deer or the type that hangout in campers hideaway that can be hand fed. Your chances of getting a blacktail to hit corn or wet cob in the wild is very slim before it goes bad.
Hopefully this helps from a local perspective. If you have trouble finding apples come october. PM me and I will let you know how to get more than you need without picking them off the ground. But till the apples are off the trees they are the best and picked apples will last for a month or 2. They don't have to be pretty. Rotting and smelling fermented still work great
Post by: fishnfur on August 19, 2016, 11:11:19 PM
Post by: shadowless_nite on August 20, 2016, 01:05:39 AM
I'd love to hunt Battleground but could never find a place to go. Is it my imagination, or is it really 95% private, permission only access?
Yes it is pretty much all private, maybe a few spots here and there that are open to public and a few more land locked pieces but overall public land isn't much and what you find isn't very promising. I consider myself very fortunate to have access to private property to hunt that has deer on it in the unit.
Post by: csaaphill on August 20, 2016, 02:41:20 AM
interesting to say the least.
Post by: HunterofWA on August 20, 2016, 08:18:06 AM
I'd love to hunt Battleground but could never find a place to go. Is it my imagination, or is it really 95% private, permission only access?
I got permission from my neighbor to hunt his 40 acre clear-cut. So yes... it's mostly private. But if you get permission... it can be real nice to be the only hunter in the area. By the way Shadowless_nite, I am having success with the wet cob and apples right now.
Post by: shadowless_nite on August 20, 2016, 08:51:47 AM
I'd love to hunt Battleground but could never find a place to go. Is it my imagination, or is it really 95% private, permission only access?
I got permission from my neighbor to hunt his 40 acre clear-cut. So yes... it's mostly private. But if you get permission... it can be real nice to be the only hunter in the area. By the way Shadowless_nite, I am having success with the wet cob and apples right now.
If you take the apples away. They will slowly stop coming in. I've dumped both at the same time and they will learn to check for apples. Especially since the ground smells like food. They may pick at a bit while they are there. But trust me they are there more or less for the apples. It takes a while for them to become use to eating cob unless they already have been eating it elsewhere.
Post by: pd on August 20, 2016, 09:40:47 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on August 27, 2016, 04:24:54 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 29, 2016, 08:49:52 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on August 30, 2016, 09:30:11 AM
Post by: pd on August 30, 2016, 09:59:47 AM
We's gettin ready!!!!! :IBCOOL:
Ah, you're wasting your time. Everybody knows that benchlegs don't eat apples. ;)
Cute little girl there.
Post by: predatorG on September 03, 2016, 10:37:51 PM
Post by: HuntinCrazy on September 05, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
Wet cob. Mule deer and elk love it. Can't think a blacky wouldn't like it.:yeah: :yeah: it's a good way to go