Post by: HunterofWA on July 14, 2016, 07:56:52 PM
Basically what I'm wondering is, does the red edge goat mineral look good enough to give it a shot? I think it would be a lot better due to it's higher calcium content. Well tell me what you think! I'm ready to get some advice! thanks!
here's the link to Red Edge mineral: https://www.farmstore.com/product/red-edge-goat-mineral-mix-25-lb/
Post by: Bean Counter on July 14, 2016, 08:01:58 PM
Post by: Bango skank on July 14, 2016, 08:14:37 PM
For deer and elk, I'd say go to the feed store and just get plain old salt with selenium for $9 a 50lb bag. :twocents:
:yeah: or buy the little 4lb trace mineralized salt blocks with selenium for $2-4 each if you want something more convenient to throw in a day pack. If you go the 4lb brick route though, bring one or two every time you check your cam, until you have a nice pile built up.
Post by: fish vacuum on July 15, 2016, 01:52:43 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 09:56:06 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2016, 11:19:32 AM
I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on July 15, 2016, 11:25:43 AM
For deer and elk, I'd say go to the feed store and just get plain old salt with selenium for $9 a 50lb bag. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:19:05 PM
I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
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Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
So is this what you think is a better idea?
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:24:18 PM
Selenium salt
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:chuckle:
Nice!
Post by: Rainier10 on July 15, 2016, 03:25:26 PM
If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16. I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:27:12 PM
If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16. I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
Are you using it on black-tails?
Post by: Special T on July 15, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:30:08 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 03:32:52 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on July 15, 2016, 03:37:18 PM
I am using the muledeer version in eastern Washington, the elk love it as well. I get does, fawns, cows and calves in as well.If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16. I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
Are you using it on black-tails?
Post by: jackelope on July 15, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16. I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
Are you using it on black-tails?
I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here. Over there, they'll dig craters in the ground to get the minerals that have leeched into the soil. I haven't seen my camera sites in a couple years now, but I'll bet there are holes in the ground where that salt was dumped.
I have a couple cameras in the Gifford Pinchot that have been out and unchecked since last August. It will be interesting to see what is on those cards. Nothing in front of the cameras but trace mineral salt w/ the selenium.
Post by: fish vacuum on July 15, 2016, 04:54:35 PM
I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here.
This. Blacktails will hit the flavored liquid stuff much more than salt and mineral blocks. Yes, the blocks work. Just not as well.
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 05:29:41 PM
https://www.farmstore.com/product/trace-mineral-loose-salt-with-selenium-90-50-lb/
Post by: HunterofWA on July 15, 2016, 05:47:52 PM
Post by: buglebrush on July 15, 2016, 07:26:26 PM
Selenium salt
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:chuckle:
Those are some awesome bulls!
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 08:23:15 AM
Do you think it's a good choice? what I think I'll do is scratch up the ground, pour out about 20lbs of salt, and then place a trophy rock right in the middle. How does that sound? The reason I want to know how much calcium there is in the American Stockman big 6 trace mineral salt, is because I want to provide the deer an extra punch of calcium for the bucks.
Thanks!
Jeremy
Post by: Bango skank on July 16, 2016, 08:50:50 AM
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Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
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Post by: dadeo316 on July 16, 2016, 05:03:25 PM
Has anyone used trophy rock?Yes! Used one in front of my trail cam until it got stolen along with my treestand. The rock appealed to everything from deer to mama bear with cubs and even a coyote. The salt seems to melt into the ground too. Even when the rock was gone the deer would come in and scrape the ground.
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Post by: dadeo316 on July 16, 2016, 05:04:56 PM
Im on the wetside too.Has anyone used trophy rock?Yes! Used one in front of my trail cam until it got stolen along with my treestand. The rock appealed to everything from deer to mama bear with cubs and even a coyote. The salt seems to melt into the ground too. Even when the rock was gone the deer would come in and scrape the ground.
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Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 05:35:19 PM
Seems like you have some unrealistic expectations as far as being able to get a bigger class of bucks by putting down the "right" mineral. Youre really not going to see a noticable increase in antlers. If you want bigger racked bucks, they need to get older. Really just put down some trace mineralized selenium salt. A little extra calcium isnt going to perform a magic trick on the antlers.
Sorry for keeping this thread going... :sry: but does trace mineral salt contain any other minerals? if so, what kind?
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 09:13:58 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 16, 2016, 09:16:06 PM
If you want something that promotes antler growth get 40lb bag of Purina antler max for $16. I have been putting it out at my place for the past couple of years and have noticed a big difference. I go through a bag a week, 15 bags a spring/summer so it gets expensive but what can you do.I think I'd use that for trail cam surveys. What I'm really wondering is if the Red edge goat mineral would work. Like if it can be poured on the ground, is is safe for the deer...
I personally wouldn't spend $17.99 on a 25 pound bag of something that might work when I can get a 50 pound bag of trace mineral salt with selenium for $9 that I can personally guarantee works better than probably pretty much anything. The only thing I've found is that their effectiveness is a little bit based on geography. I don't think the salts and minerals work as well on the west side of the state.
The thing that gets me interested in it is that it contains about 4.00% calcium... which promotes antler growth.
Are you using it on black-tails?
I will almost guarantee you that lots of other things will work better than salt and minerals in Western Washington. The soils are a lot more salt and mineral rich on this side than the dry side. The animals don't crave it much over here. Over there, they'll dig craters in the ground to get the minerals that have leeched into the soil. I haven't seen my camera sites in a couple years now, but I'll bet there are holes in the ground where that salt was dumped.
I have a couple cameras in the Gifford Pinchot that have been out and unchecked since last August. It will be interesting to see what is on those cards. Nothing in front of the cameras but trace mineral salt w/ the selenium.
You should go check those cams' it would be interesting to see what showed up. I can't wait that long to check my camera :drool:
Post by: JakeLand on July 16, 2016, 09:18:15 PM
If you just want something to bring them in for your trail cam, I've found this to be the best.
Works real good on blacktails! Just make sure you pour it under a big thick canopy that way it doesn't wash out quickly
Post by: HunterofWA on July 18, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
Post by: JakeLand on July 18, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Scraped out you could put a couple bales of hay in they were loving it
Post by: Antlershed on July 18, 2016, 05:57:00 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on July 19, 2016, 09:02:09 AM
Post by: fish vacuum on January 12, 2017, 11:56:12 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on January 12, 2017, 01:45:49 PM
Selenium is very low in the inland northwest, at the very least salt w/selenium (needed in very small quantities but essential)
Most years A,D,E are very low late summer through winter, not so much this year, fall rain
If you are feeding grain calcium is important, it is high in Phosphorous and you need more Ca than P
Nearly all branded supplements are very expensive for content
Most years, most situations, your efforts have little or no effect beyond your satisfaction of seeing the critters