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Title: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 23, 2016, 03:52:24 PM
PISS ME OFF!!!!!

Up the Colockum today and ran into 2 different spots(1/4 mile apart) where elk have been poached.  :bash:

1st one was a bull and had the antlers cut off...zero meat taken, looked to have been 2-4 days old, vultures and a bear were on it when I first saw it.
2nd one was a quarter mile or so up the road, nothing but a huge pile of dried blood, and some hair on the side of the road.
I also believe there was a 3rd one, saw 5 vultures flying from an area when I came upon it, walked around for awhile looking but didn't find any sign of dead animals  :dunno:

Yes, at 0730ish I reported it to the SP, said they would relay it to WDFW and that they may call me, as of 4pm....no call from WDFW......WTF?

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Post by: TVHunts on July 23, 2016, 04:00:46 PM
Unreal and very disgusting
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Post by: MADMAX on July 23, 2016, 04:03:01 PM
Frickin idiots
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Post by: Waycott15 on July 23, 2016, 05:02:49 PM
So frustrating!!
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Post by: seth30 on July 23, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
Such a shame >:(
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Post by: T Pearce on July 23, 2016, 05:37:53 PM
Report the vultures laying in the weeds, I'd bet you might hear from them then.
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Post by: Timberstalker on July 23, 2016, 05:59:41 PM
Wonder if it was tribal......
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 23, 2016, 07:34:28 PM
Wonder if it was tribal......

I would guess no, at least not the body one. hard to say on the blood spot one.

There is a stretch of area here that this seems to happen in every year, thinking about getting some cheap t-cams to watch a couple spots
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: The100Road on July 23, 2016, 08:03:43 PM
Wonder if it was tribal......
:yeah: that's probably why you haven't gotten a call.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: longrangekiller on July 23, 2016, 09:43:28 PM
Found one in manastash last weekend bullet hole in the head and backstraps and rear quarters gonna


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Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: PlateauNDN on July 23, 2016, 11:38:52 PM
Wonder if it was tribal......
:yeah: that's probably why you haven't gotten a call.

Yup, that's probably the reason... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: Eric M on July 24, 2016, 12:18:59 AM
Wonder if it was tribal......
:yeah: that's probably why you haven't gotten a call.

Yup, that's probably the reason... :rolleyes:
I've never seen natives just taking horns. At least not the ones I know.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: bowhunterforever on July 24, 2016, 01:22:54 AM
Unreal and very disgusting
:yeah: :bash:
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 24, 2016, 05:33:47 AM
This should not be made into a tribal thing.  I don't care who did it......
thrill kill & waste of meat/animal = poaching....their a pig.  :bash:
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Post by: BNAElkhntr on July 24, 2016, 07:28:04 AM
Did you let WDFW know about it and Location?
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Post by: Timberstalker on July 24, 2016, 07:56:23 AM
This should not be made into a tribal thing.  I don't care who did it......
thrill kill & waste of meat/animal = poaching....their a pig.  :bash:

Agreed. Just was simply asking a question. Seems like the tribal members spend a fair amount of time in this unit.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: coachcw on July 24, 2016, 07:56:57 AM
I have seen it twice in 340 rear hind quarters gone and horns
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 24, 2016, 08:04:58 AM
Did you let WDFW know about it and Location?

Yes, kind of. That's another beef I have. The "poaching hotline" is not "open" on the weekends.  :bash:  :bdid:
Reported to WSP who relays to WDFW. Couple times in the past I have did this and have always got a call back from a warden.....so far not this time. I will be raking them over the coals tomorrow.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: bigtex on July 24, 2016, 08:23:05 AM
Did you let WDFW know about it and Location?
Yes, kind of. That's another beef I have. The "poaching hotline" is not "open" on the weekends.  :bash:  :bdid:
Reported to WSP who relays to WDFW. Couple times in the past I have did this and have always got a call back from a warden.....so far not this time. I will be raking them over the coals tomorrow.
The hours for the poaching hotline is in all regs and on the WDFW website, it is only operational during business hours. WSP dispatches for WDFW 24/7/365 which is why I tell people don't even bother with the poaching hotline.

I have always told officers to give a courtesy call to reporting parties, even if their the 10th person to make the call or won't be responding. I've always had an issue with an officer responding to an incident but not notifying the reporting party that they responded.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 24, 2016, 08:28:13 AM
They should always respond back. Common courtesy. IMO
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on July 24, 2016, 09:02:18 AM
My buddy spotted a dead cow elk this weekend when we were scouting as well. Couldn't see any bullet holes or where any meat had been taken off, but, we also didn't stick around too long or inspect it closely, was a little stinky...
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: sthd system on July 24, 2016, 11:05:42 AM
Many times if the horns are sawed off while there still in velvet its velvet they want . Certain ethnic groups use the velvet as an aphrodisiac. This happened a lot in the Lewis river area many years ago .
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: Rider on July 26, 2016, 09:02:50 AM
I wonder if this was caught on anyone's game cameras.
What a waste of some beautiful animals. May the poacher have violent nightmares for the rest of their miserable life.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 26, 2016, 09:09:53 AM
Wonder if it was tribal......

I doubt it. They would've taken the whole animal. There's zero reason for them to not take it out. So, that probably leaves white trash.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: WAPatriot on July 26, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
This is true poaching culprits should be hung. Thrill killers and someone who misidentifies an animal need to have different regulations. Thrill killers need to be removed from society.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: Rainier10 on July 26, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
I found three cows all shot with a gun and left to rot on the side of Wilson Creek road in 328 a few years back.  Game warden thought it was probably high school or college kids, it was right around graduation time, thrill kill kind of thing. :bash:
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 26, 2016, 09:21:28 AM
Wonder if it was tribal......

I doubt it. They would've taken the whole animal. There's zero reason for them to not take it out. So, that probably leaves white trash.  :dunno:
Who knows, but tribal (depending on the tribe) can be pretty bad too.  Some tribes let members designate someone else to shoot.  There would be cases where a couple guys get fifty tags and just go out shooting everything they can.  They like to shoot up the whole herd and then just take the bulls and spikes, leaving the cows and calves.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on July 26, 2016, 09:28:02 AM
Tribal members have zero to gain from leaving the animal and nothing to lose by taking it. They know at the very least they can sell the meat. At best, it'll feed their family. It's the guys shooting for "the fun of it" who would leave the animal to rot.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 26, 2016, 09:35:01 AM
Tribal members have zero to gain from leaving the animal and nothing to lose by taking it. They know at the very least they can sell the meat. At best, it'll feed their family. It's the guys shooting for "the fun of it" who would leave the animal to rot.
Most, but they have plenty of bad apples too.  Not like they can't come back and shoot more the next day.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 26, 2016, 09:36:15 AM
OK.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: Timberstalker on July 26, 2016, 10:25:44 AM
Tribal members have zero to gain from leaving the animal and nothing to lose by taking it. They know at the very least they can sell the meat. At best, it'll feed their family. It's the guys shooting for "the fun of it" who would leave the animal to rot.

Seems logical.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: Rainier10 on July 26, 2016, 11:27:06 AM
Tribal members have zero to gain from leaving the animal and nothing to lose by taking it. They know at the very least they can sell the meat. At best, it'll feed their family. It's the guys shooting for "the fun of it" who would leave the animal to rot.

Seems logical.
Be very careful here you two, I have found that facts, logic and common sense are not always accepted here.  ;) Carry on.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 26, 2016, 11:37:09 AM
Lol, at least we're all here commenting because we care about the wildlife. :tup:
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Post by: PlateauNDN on July 26, 2016, 11:39:04 AM
 :yeah: :tup:
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Post by: Elk4me on July 26, 2016, 01:01:08 PM
Disgusting at best!! :bash:
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: 2MANY on July 26, 2016, 01:03:00 PM
Calling them is a waste of time.
Been there..............tried that.
Title: Re: Elk Poachers...
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 26, 2016, 07:57:38 PM
WDFW confirmed that it was shot, in the neck. They didn't say/ I didn't ask, if they recovered a bullet.
Just for the heck of it, I'm gonna hang a couple cheap cams to see what I may catch, never know.
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