Post by: KDfishbiologist on July 25, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
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Post by: emac on July 25, 2016, 06:40:09 PM
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Post by: lokidog on July 25, 2016, 10:27:35 PM
Doctors note and you can hunt archery season
I don't think left eye dominance quite counts as a disability, an oddity sure... but no special permits.... :chuckle:
My son is left eye dominant and right handed, he shot his first deer last year using a crossbow, no problems. He did shoot lefty, but with a scope, it probably doesn't matter.
Post by: KDfishbiologist on July 26, 2016, 09:38:40 AM
Post by: JDHasty on July 26, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
Post by: Bob33 on July 26, 2016, 10:04:56 AM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/accessibility/requirements_status.html
Post by: emac on July 26, 2016, 10:30:39 AM
Yeah Excalibur's seemed large and not hunter friendly when I was test out xbows. I ended up going with a stryker 380 and love it. Easy to pack around and I do alot of spot and stock huntingSadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
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Post by: Bob33 on July 26, 2016, 10:50:43 AM
I'll report on my experiences.
Post by: lokidog on July 26, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
Reloading was a concern when we got one. We got the Barnett Jackal as it was economical and met the axle length requirement (which now seems to have been removed from the regs). It is a 150lb pull and can be done by me without a cocking device. I even managed to re-cock on the ground after missing a turkey, got the second one though thirty seconds later. There are better ones out there, of course.
Post by: JDHasty on July 26, 2016, 02:20:38 PM
Yeah Excalibur's seemed large and not hunter friendly when I was test out xbows. I ended up going with a stryker 380 and love it. Easy to pack around and I do alot of spot and stock huntingSadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
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Compounds & recurves both have their strong points, I have used both and don't really like packing any of them around. We like them for stand hunting though and the Excalibur was best fit for both of us.
Post by: KDfishbiologist on July 26, 2016, 03:26:43 PM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
Reloading was a concern when we got one. We got the Barnett Jackal as it was economical and met the axle length requirement (which now seems to have been removed from the regs). It is a 150lb pull and can be done by me without a cocking device. I even managed to re-cock on the ground after missing a turkey, got the second one though thirty seconds later. There are better ones out there, of course.
I've been looking at the Barnett Jackal since it's a good price and from what I've read is a good starter crossbow until you can invest in something better. Any luck deer hunting with it?
Post by: Stizz on July 28, 2016, 02:54:14 PM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
I had the exact same issue. Just go with your dominant eye and lots of practice.
I used to shoot with my dominant hand and non dominant eye...worked ok but had to close one eye, hated that for hunting. I swapped and started shooting with my dominant eye and non dominant arm. At first it felt like trying to throw a baseball with my glove hand, but really it only took 2 or 3 weeks of shooting to get comfortable. In a matter of a few months id already surpassed where i was at shooting with my other arm just from the benefit of aiming with my dominant eye. Now it feels completely natural and i can shoot well with either side.
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Post by: Bob33 on July 28, 2016, 02:59:41 PM
It's far more common that many know. In our hunter education courses, we have students test themselves, and it's rare we don't have some who learn for the first time they are cross-dominant.Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
I had the exact same issue. Just go with your dominant eye and lots of practice.
I used to shoot with my dominant hand and non dominant eye...worked ok but had to close one eye, hated that for hunting. I swapped and started shooting with my dominant eye and non dominant arm. At first it felt like trying to throw a baseball with my glove hand, but really it only took 2 or 3 weeks of shooting to get comfortable. In a matter of a few months id already surpassed where i was at shooting with my other arm just from the benefit of aiming with my dominant eye. Now it feels completely natural and i can shoot well with either side.
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"In a study conducted in the early 1960s, more than 5,000 subjects were tested for eye dominance and almost one third were cross dominant. In that study, 28.6 percent were right handed, but left eyed. Only 3.9 percent were left handed and right eyed. In my experience, females are far more likely to be cross dominant, for reasons as yet unknown. In some groups of females we have trained, as many as one in four were cross dominant."
Post by: KDfishbiologist on July 28, 2016, 03:06:12 PM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
I had the exact same issue. Just go with your dominant eye and lots of practice.
I used to shoot with my dominant hand and non dominant eye...worked ok but had to close one eye, hated that for hunting. I swapped and started shooting with my dominant eye and non dominant arm. At first it felt like trying to throw a baseball with my glove hand, but really it only took 2 or 3 weeks of shooting to get comfortable. In a matter of a few months id already surpassed where i was at shooting with my other arm just from the benefit of aiming with my dominant eye. Now it feels completely natural and i can shoot well with either side.
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I had to do that when I was younger shooting rifles with my Old Man. I was always shooting off to one side with his right-handed .270 so I just swapped the gun around and shot with my left hand and I finally hit a deer after 4 years of hunting. Luckily...he was a patient guy :) Although reloading was a pain in the ass with a right-handed bolt action. Now I'm really interested in archery (crossbow) and just need to build up some strength and get some practice in. Thanks for the advice!
Post by: KDfishbiologist on July 28, 2016, 03:08:52 PM
It's far more common that many know. In our hunter education courses, we have students test themselves, and it's rare we don't have some who learn for the first time they are cross-dominant.
"In a study conducted in the early 1960s, more than 5,000 subjects were tested for eye dominance and almost one third were cross dominant. In that study, 28.6 percent were right handed, but left eyed. Only 3.9 percent were left handed and right eyed. In my experience, females are far more likely to be cross dominant, for reasons as yet unknown. In some groups of females we have trained, as many as one in four were cross dominant."
Wow that's crazy! Thanks for sharing =)
Post by: lokidog on July 28, 2016, 11:46:07 PM
Sadly, don't think my odd left-eye dominance (but being right handed) is a true disability, but nice to know I'm not the only one out there! =) Thanks for the advice all!
We have a couple Exclalibur Matrix 355 and they work pretty well. We have killed deer w/them. Same issue you have w/compound bows re: wind. Tehy are slow to reload, but everything else is pretty much the same. They are a PITA to pack around in the woods still hunting, but fine for stand hunting.
Sometimes I grab my compound and sometimes I grab a crossbow during modern season when I am on property or in an area in which I cannot use a modern firearm or ML. For archery or ML season you have to have the doctor's stamp of approval to grab the crossbow
Reloading was a concern when we got one. We got the Barnett Jackal as it was economical and met the axle length requirement (which now seems to have been removed from the regs). It is a 150lb pull and can be done by me without a cocking device. I even managed to re-cock on the ground after missing a turkey, got the second one though thirty seconds later. There are better ones out there, of course.
I've been looking at the Barnett Jackal since it's a good price and from what I've read is a good starter crossbow until you can invest in something better. Any luck deer hunting with it?
Yep. My son got his first deer, I reloaded, swapped seats with him and shot another buck about seven minutes later. Unfortunately, I did not recover mine. I think I hit high in that zone above the lungs and below the spine. I was also shooting up at him about four feet from thirteen yards away. I have also gotten a turkey with one.
Post by: Bango skank on July 29, 2016, 06:22:14 AM
Disability eligibility:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/accessibility/requirements_status.html
What if i physically am not disabled, but i self identify as a parapalegic?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 29, 2016, 08:14:00 AM
:chuckle: pick me for your reignited shooter. :mgun:Disability eligibility:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/accessibility/requirements_status.html
What if i physically am not disabled, but i self identify as a parapalegic?
Post by: konradcountry on July 29, 2016, 09:35:09 AM
I've been leaning towards bow hunting, but being a left-eyed dominant (but right hand dominant) individual, I'm not that coordinated with compound and recurve bows. So I've been looking at getting a crossbow. Anyone here hunt with one? I read in the regs that it's only legal to use a crossbow during firearm season (not archery) here in WA.
Being cross dominant is not a big deal. I was shooting right handed just fine before I even learned about dominant eyes. If you are strongly left dominate then get something to practice shooting left with. Spend an hour with a tech at a bow shop. They will give you tips and help your form.
Crossbow isn't allowed in general archery because it is too close to a short range gun. If you want more of a challenge then get a slug gun or 30/30 with iron sites. You will prefer carrying those around compared to a crossbow.
Post by: Jimmy33 on August 10, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
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Post by: JDHasty on August 13, 2016, 06:33:55 AM
2 years they made it legal to use a scope on a crossbow since iron sights are hard to find and pretty much all crossbows come with a scope
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I doubt that applies during archery season unless you have a visual handicap as well as a disability that affects your ability to draw and hold a bow.
Post by: 3dsheetmetal on August 13, 2016, 07:06:56 AM
2 years they made it legal to use a scope on a crossbow since iron sights are hard to find and pretty much all crossbows come with a scope
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I doubt that applies during archery season unless you have a visual handicap as well as a disability that affects your ability to draw and hold a bow.
You can use a scope on your crossbow even during archery season. I checked with Delores who is in charge of the disability program at the game dept. :)
Post by: JDHasty on August 13, 2016, 07:19:56 AM
2 years they made it legal to use a scope on a crossbow since iron sights are hard to find and pretty much all crossbows come with a scope
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I doubt that applies during archery season unless you have a visual handicap as well as a disability that affects your ability to draw and hold a bow.
You can use a scope on your crossbow even during archery season. I checked with Delores who is in charge of the disability program at the game dept. :)
Wow! Interesting.
I sometimes will use my crossbow and sometimes my compound during modern season when I am on certain properties and the scope on the crossbow does give me a few extra minutes at sundown. Other than that they are about equally capable. The crossbow may have a range advantage of a few yards, but the compound is much more convenient.
Post by: bearpaw on August 13, 2016, 07:33:17 AM
I've had several hunters with disabled archery permits who have used crossbows. We killed a nice bull elk and a mule deer last year in Idaho with a crossbow, they seem to be very effective.
Post by: Bob33 on August 13, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
Three shots to get it sighted in, then I could hit tennis ball sized targets at 60 yards 9 out of 10 times. I can't understand how people consider them equivalent to compounds.
Post by: JDHasty on August 13, 2016, 04:29:42 PM
I just bought one to hunt elk in Wyoming where they are considered legal archery equipment
Three shots to get it sighted in, then I could hit tennis ball sized targets at 60 yards 9 out of 10 times. I can't understand how people consider them equivalent to compounds.
I guess because I am equally capable of big game hunting accuracy within archery range of an animal with either. Granted, the crossbow didn't require that I practice regularly and maintain my strength.
Post by: KDfishbiologist on August 15, 2016, 01:20:09 PM
I just bought one to hunt elk in Wyoming where they are considered legal archery equipment
Three shots to get it sighted in, then I could hit tennis ball sized targets at 60 yards 9 out of 10 times. I can't understand how people consider them equivalent to compounds.
I guess because I am equally capable of big game hunting accuracy within archery range of an animal with either. Granted, the crossbow didn't require that I practice regularly and maintain my strength.
That's the reason I've leaned more towards the crossbow -- I don't have enough strength and stability in my left arm to draw back the compound with any kind of accuracy. Guess I need some time in the weight room haha. I'll try the crossbow this year and go from there!
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Post by: KDfishbiologist on August 30, 2016, 01:26:57 PM
Post by: lokidog on August 30, 2016, 10:15:22 PM
The fun part is figuring out where those multiple crosshairs will hit the 'X'. We chose to set the top one at fifteen yards and then worked our way back figuring out where the others were on the money. I made a chart taped to the bow so it would be easy to remember.
Post by: backyard bucks on September 01, 2016, 06:33:13 AM
Post by: lokidog on September 01, 2016, 07:47:25 AM
Hey, thanks all for your suggestions on the crossbow hunting. I finally broke down and bought a Barnett Jackal crossbow and I love shooting it already. Local archery shop hooked me up with everything I need and showed me how to care for it. Now I just need to find some deer this fall! :)
Radical Archery Designs has a new crossbow broadhead, 125 grain available, that I would highly recommend.