Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 26, 2016, 08:56:49 AM
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Post by: 7mmfan on July 26, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on July 26, 2016, 09:15:21 AM
Yeah I know youtube has 100's of such videos. I was kinda hoping someone could recommend one that they found particularly helpful.they all are the same. But everyone has a little different way of doing it. Like my uncle told me when I was young, "if your not going to eat it take it out out!"
Post by: fishnfur on July 26, 2016, 09:16:16 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on July 26, 2016, 09:17:52 AM
Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 26, 2016, 09:19:28 AM
Tell us a little about how you plan on hunting? I field dressed and drug deer out of the woods for years. I learned how to quarter an animal in the woods a few years back and it changed everything for me. I'm now on the gutless method list and will never go back unless I can see the truck from where I kill the animal.
I plan on trying to hunt blacktail, assuming I can find the time and an open unit. I will use .308 to make the kill. From what little I know I think quartering usually provides the best meat preservation but I'm not entirely sure of that. Is quartering pretty easy to learn or should I tyr a different method for my first hunt?
Thank you all for the replies.
Post by: Bullkllr on July 26, 2016, 09:31:45 AM
Unless you're way back in somewhere, and high temps are not a problem, consider taking a deer out whole. Then get it somewhere you can hang and skin cleanly prior to final processing.
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Post by: Fish4Fun on July 26, 2016, 09:32:15 AM
Post by: Bill W on July 26, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
Not sure how big you are, but a blacktail you should be able to cut in half and pack it out. When I was younger it was no problem to put a blacktail on a pack frame after field dressing and make it to the truck in one load.
I remember being younger and carrying deer out on the high hunt. Originally they were field dressed with the lower legs cut off, then the horns were cut off the head (and head discarded), then the animal was boned out and eventually I left the hide in the field also. One trip out was "gear and deer" and I felt I was pissing and moaning more than usual on that hike out. I weighed that pack when I got home and it was 110 lbs.
I also switched from full up Raichle leather hiking boots to the soft (what I call) hiking sneakers. They were way more comfortable on the feet.
Post by: Rainier10 on July 26, 2016, 09:59:17 AM
Now that I have done so many animals I actually take the bones out in the field as well to really lighten the load going out. It only takes less than an hour to get the bones out of everything and really saves on weight.
Like someone else said if you aren't going to eat it don't pack it out.
Over time your processing method will change I am sure. Good luck this season. I remember the first animal I processed, what a mess, but a great learning experience.
Post by: 7mmfan on July 26, 2016, 10:13:49 AM
- He did not cut the skin over the belly up to the brisket before he started cutting the gut cavity open. I have found that simply cutting the skin open first makes it much easier to cut the gut cavity open without risking nicking the stomach because your pushing/pulling to hard trying to cut the skin as well.
- He stopped cutting up the brisket because he is saving the cape for a mount. If you aren't, you can continue cutting up the brisket which will make cutting the windpipe and all the other internal organs out easier. However, this does open the chest cavity to letting stuff (dirt, pine needles, leaves, etc...) in while you're transporting the deer out. I've done it both ways, I'm impartial.
- Some people find it easier to split the pelvic bone and pull everything out that way. I do it basically the same way this guy did. If doing it this way however, be very careful when fleshing out the anal canal to NOT puncture the bladder. It isn't the end of the world, but you have to clean that up and flush it all out immediately or it will taint the meat.
Otherwise I'd say this was a very good straight forward showing of how to field dress a deer. Watch it 100 times and you'll have a pretty good feel for it when you knock your buck down this fall. Next, watch the gutless method videos and it will help you get a feel for how to take your animal apart when you get home. Its all very easy, you just have to do it a few times to get a feel for it. Since most of us only get to do it once a year if we're lucky, it can take time. Good luck!
Post by: HunterofWA on July 26, 2016, 10:40:00 AM
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Post by: police women of America on July 26, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+field+dress+a+deer+by+richard+smith&view=detail&mid=591F7C1F9FEF3931AB2A591F7C1F9FEF3931AB2A&FORM=VIRE&qpvt=how+to+field+dress+a+deer+by+richard+smith&PC=APPL
Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 26, 2016, 07:40:21 PM
I'm considering hunting gmu 407 just because I am more familiar with a lot of that region than most of the others. Any advice on good knives/brands for field dressing?
Post by: carlyoungs on July 26, 2016, 08:07:04 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on July 26, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Post by: fish vacuum on July 26, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
I do it similar but different. Have a sheet for a clean surface. Skin a hind leg, cut meat off the bone. Skin front leg on same side, cut meat off the bone. Remove the back strap and accessible neck meat from that side. Roll him over and repeat. Then cut a slit in front of the hip to get loins & heart.
Takes me 45 minutes to get one all packed up.
Having rope or cord is handy if you're alone. The leg you're working on can be tied to a tree to hold it up.
Post by: pope on July 26, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Here are two videos on the gutless method. One for elk, one for deer. Good videos.
Some of the best on the web!
I also like this for gutless:
And this if you plan to gut it first, then skin and break it down yourself (in the field or at home):
With a tarp or sheet and some game bags, and assuming a short drag will get you to flat ground, you can keep it nice and clean via the gutless method. The meat cools quickly and you will only carry what you're going to eat.
Don't be intimidated. I learned everything I know from youtube and it went pretty well when I carried out my first deer. Bring a very sharp knife and a way to sharpen it. In case things go wrong, have a second knife. I picked up a Havalon Edge after my experience last year.
Post by: Dan-o on July 26, 2016, 09:38:43 PM
Post by: JakeLand on July 26, 2016, 10:06:23 PM
I absolutwly DO NOT recommend this method!!!!!!
Hahaha ! Good stuff there !!!!
Post by: HunterofWA on July 27, 2016, 09:00:35 AM
Post by: jrebel on July 27, 2016, 09:19:24 AM
I also cannot believe how much hair these videos show on the meat. We are very clean and meticulous with out meat. Hair is nasty stuff when dried to the meat.
Post by: 7mmfan on July 27, 2016, 02:20:26 PM
What I don't get, and I made a post specific to this a while back, is why guys insist on fighting through the guts to get the tenderloins. Just wait until you've gotten all the other meat off and then spill the guts and get them easy peasy?! Am I seriously the only one that thinks this makes sense?
Post by: bobcat on July 27, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
I don't really understand the gutless method.....I just can't believe it is any faster or cleaner. Did you see how much of a pain it was to get the backstraps out? I prefer gutting the animal and dragging the guts / animal apart so the flies and bees will leave me alone and eat off the guts.
A pain to get the backstraps? Really? That's the easiest part to get. :dunno:
I love the gutless method, I only wish I had started doing it that way years ago.
Post by: jrebel on July 27, 2016, 02:32:18 PM
I don't really understand the gutless method.....I just can't believe it is any faster or cleaner. Did you see how much of a pain it was to get the backstraps out? I prefer gutting the animal and dragging the guts / animal apart so the flies and bees will leave me alone and eat off the guts.
A pain to get the backstraps? Really? That's the easiest part to get. :dunno:
I love the gutless method, I only wish I had started doing it that way years ago.
I meant tenderloin.
Post by: fishnfur on July 27, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
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Post by: 206 on July 27, 2016, 03:13:08 PM
I prefer to get the guts out asap
That's what I have always thought. The liver and heart are always a prize to me also, even more than the tenderloins.
Post by: Jpmiller on July 28, 2016, 06:51:19 AM
If you're hunting close to your rig, then by all means, field dress, drag to truck, and skin at home. It would be an impossible feat where I do most of my hunting. And yes they had a lot of hair on the meat, that doesn't have to happen when doing the gutless method. Its pretty easy if you take your time to keep most of the hair off.
What I don't get, and I made a post specific to this a while back, is why guys insist on fighting through the guts to get the tenderloins. Just wait until you've gotten all the other meat off and then spill the guts and get them easy peasy?! Am I seriously the only one that thinks this makes sense?
If I'm understanding you correctly this is something I have always wondered as well. I haven't had to try the gutless method as I hunt private property I can access within about a hundred yards of everywhere so j just gut and drag to the ATV. Why couldn't you get everything out but the ribs and tenderloin then just real quick and easy get our he guts? Seems cleaner and like it would add only five minutes
Post by: birddogdad on July 28, 2016, 07:02:56 AM
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Post by: EmeraldBullet on July 30, 2016, 10:18:39 PM
I was originally thinking of hunting the 408, but now I'm thinking the Mt Baker area might be better. Anyone have some advice for a beginner? I'm not weary of totting through thick brush. My issue with the 408 area is most of it is private and you need permission. While I am able I wouldn't mind hiking in somewhere and setting up a camp and hunting from there.
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2016, 08:00:31 AM
I was originally thinking of hunting the 408, but now I'm thinking the Mt Baker area might be better.
I'm assuming you meant 407? Mount Baker has a ton of country, and some very nice bucks. As is the case with most national forest these days that hasn't been logged in a long time, finding deer can be difficult, and they are often isolated. If you put your time in there, you will find solitude and maybe a nice buck. Your best opportunity for that area would probably be the September high buck hunt in the wilderness area. Get high into the alpine, get away from the trails and you might find some deer.
There is some private timberland up north in the 407 that you can walk in/bike in too, some you can probably even drive into. Some of that ground is open for Late Buck in November as well, which would be your best opportunity for getting a buck. You don't need a lot of ground to be successful. My suggestion would be to find some ground you know you can hunt, find a 2-5 year old clearcut in it and get to scouting. Learn the entrances, exits, escape routes. Find the best vantage points and learn how the wind works in the area in relation to where the deer may be coming from. Success when hunting blacktails often boils down to patience and staying in a bucks core area for a long time until he makes a mistake.
Post by: csaaphill on August 05, 2016, 01:50:54 AM
Post by: WaltAlpine on August 06, 2016, 05:23:09 PM
If you're hunting close to your rig, then by all means, field dress, drag to truck, and skin at home. It would be an impossible feat where I do most of my hunting. And yes they had a lot of hair on the meat, that doesn't have to happen when doing the gutless method. Its pretty easy if you take your time to keep most of the hair off.It makes perfectly good sense. Just bring a sheet of thin painters plastic to lay the meat on to cool as you go.
What I don't get, and I made a post specific to this a while back, is why guys insist on fighting through the guts to get the tenderloins. Just wait until you've gotten all the other meat off and then spill the guts and get them easy peasy?! Am I seriously the only one that thinks this makes sense?
No need to get a lot of hair on the meat
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Post by: police women of America on August 13, 2016, 06:38:12 PM
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Post by: Buzz2401 on August 13, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
I prefer to get the guts out asap so you buy yourself all the time you need to skin ,bone out,ect. safely.Most people that do gutless method leave a lot of meat behind .I hunt Idaho every year and you better get all the meat between ribs,tenderloins, neck.ect. or you will get a ticket if your meat bag is too light.To each his own but I am in no hurry while carving on a carcass with a knife miles from the truck.
I agree if it is early in the day then I will start the gutless method because I know I will be able to get it all out. I like to leave the hide on anything I can't get out that day. I never seem to be able to find a good place to hang quarters that I feel is safe from predators. If they have a choice of eating on skinned bones or chewing through hide they are gonna take the hideless. Its amazing how fast three or four coyotes can devour a quarter that is skinned.
Post by: csaaphill on August 17, 2016, 11:24:24 PM
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