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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: cpodie on July 27, 2016, 08:41:28 AM

Title: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 27, 2016, 08:41:28 AM: I have a Winchester Model 70 that was made in 1941 and the caliber stamped on the barrel is .300Mag. A .300 WinMag cartridge will not fit this rifle but a .300H&H will. In addition I have some brass that is stamped .300Mag and it will also fit. I am going to be selling the rifle and want to be able to explain this. Was the .300Mag caliber a precursor to the .300H&H? Do they even make .300 Mag ammo anymore?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 27, 2016, 08:56:59 AM: Quote from: cpodie on July 27, 2016, 08:41:28 AM
I have a Winchester Model 70 that was made in 1941 and the caliber stamped on the barrel is .300Mag. A .300 WinMag cartridge will not fit this rifle but a .300H&H will. In addition I have some brass that is stamped .300Mag and it will also fit. I am going to be selling the rifle and want to be able to explain this. Was the .300Mag caliber a precursor to the .300H&H? Do they even make .300 Mag ammo anymore?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Pre 64 Mod 70's were offered in .300H&H. That said is the stamping factory?

If it's a factory barrel and stock and the rifle is in good shape, it could be worth quite a bit. Pre-64 Mod 70's can be worth a fortune.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 27, 2016, 08:58:50 AM: I think .300 H&H was the first of the .30 magnums. I know it was pre-WWI for colonial Africa. .300 Win Mag and .300 Norma mag weren't until the 60's. So, probably the H&H was the only one at the time so no confusion.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: 724wd on July 27, 2016, 09:14:16 AM: does the 300 mag brass resemble 300 H&H? Likely the chamber is 300 H&H, but a chamber cast would tell for sure. I second Jay.sharkbait, check the condition and value BEFORE you sell it! Pre-64's in 300 H&H are highly desirable.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Sakko300wsm on July 27, 2016, 10:53:44 AM: I had a Winchester model 70 that was a 300 Weatherby mag - not sure what yr it was , but it said Weatherby on it
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 28, 2016, 07:50:51 AM: more than likely an H&H magnum. may way to get it checked out by a gunsmith.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: headshot5 on July 28, 2016, 09:24:05 AM: It should be a 300 H&H I've seen a few. They are usually marked 300 Mag, and that's it. Be a heck of a nice gun.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 28, 2016, 09:27:15 AM: Interested in buying post pics. Call first dibs on it :chuckle:
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: KP-Skagit on July 28, 2016, 10:40:32 AM: I have a 1951 Model 70 in 300 H&H that was my great uncle's old moose gun. I love it almost enough to buy a second! Absolute tack driver. (it is stamped 300 H&H though)
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:05:52 PM: Trying to post some pictures but won't let me. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:13:14 PM: Do I need some type of permission to post pictures? New to this forum so trying to get the hang of it
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 28, 2016, 10:15:12 PM: Quote from: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:13:14 PM
Do I need some type of permission to post pictures? New to this forum so trying to get the hang of it

Under the box you write in click on the attachments and other options then click choose file tab under the words attach then choose file
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:24:00 PM: I did that and it looked like it uploaded the pictures and then when I hit post my screen ent white
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 28, 2016, 10:25:00 PM: Quote from: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:24:00 PM
I did that and it looked like it uploaded the pictures and then when I hit post my screen ent white

That's happened to me before actually for some reason trying to post pictures on here. Try screen shotting then repost one at a time
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 28, 2016, 10:27:49 PM: Sorry. Don't know what screen shooting is
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: h20hunter on July 28, 2016, 10:29:47 PM: All white screen means pics are to big. Resize them. www.picresize.com is easy.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 29, 2016, 08:50:21 AM: A pic
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: mountainman on July 29, 2016, 08:57:29 AM: A beauty for sure👍
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 29, 2016, 08:59:48 AM: some more
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: MountainWalk on July 29, 2016, 09:00:56 AM: I love my two pre 64 Winchester's. Not a classier rifle out there. Don't sell it, hunt it!
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 29, 2016, 09:05:24 AM: Ok, says 300 magnum not mag

That's 300 H&H unless its been reamed to 300 weatherby etc.

I would not sell unless you had to...You will never in another.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: 724wd on July 29, 2016, 09:12:05 AM: that rifle is in very good condition! DO NOT SELL IT WITHOUT GETTING SOME KIND OF APPRAISAL! Preferably an appraisal from someone not interested in buying it! That COULD be a very desirable firearm, and based on condition, could demand a premium price!

at LEAST go to barnes & noble and check out a copy of Blue Book of Gun Values. Do as much research you can before selling.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Bill W on July 29, 2016, 09:21:21 AM: That gun is in very good shape and if unaltered, with the exception of the peep sight, could be worth some dough.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: MountainWalk on July 29, 2016, 09:23:39 AM: Is that an original butt pad?. Neither of my pre 64's, ('39, '53) have that style.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: Crunchy on July 29, 2016, 09:34:36 AM: Looks original to me. Mine has the red one as well. Mine is a 1959.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 29, 2016, 09:35:02 AM: Did find out it is a .300 H&H
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: 724wd on July 29, 2016, 09:35:36 AM: It could be the original pad. It's the right color and appears to be of the age of the gun. MountainWalk, do your rifles have the metal buttplate? cpodie, does the buttpad say Winchester on it?
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 29, 2016, 09:39:29 AM: It does.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: MountainWalk on July 29, 2016, 09:47:31 AM: My older one came with a steel one but previous owner put on a ventilated white line (uggh ) spacer type. He still had the old one. My featherweight has OG plastic.
Title: Re: Model 70 .300Mag
Post by: cpodie on July 29, 2016, 09:50:43 AM: I am going to selling this rifle. If interested pm me