Post by: Tbob on August 02, 2016, 09:44:29 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 02, 2016, 09:48:11 AM
Post by: JLS on August 02, 2016, 10:06:04 AM
Post by: seth30 on August 02, 2016, 10:26:10 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 02, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on August 02, 2016, 10:32:18 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 02, 2016, 10:35:23 AM
They also make a range different size canisters. I don't know if that's a statement of the obvious, but it would seem to moot the concern about never having enough for a trip.
It's a good point. If somebody is worried, just throw in a fresh medium canister. That sucker will last weeks unless you are using it as a campfire.
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 02, 2016, 12:33:30 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 02, 2016, 12:37:05 PM
i have been geeking on stoves for the last few years. a few things i have found.. i avg about 4g fuel per boil. i scratch my boils in the side of the canister. i have a bone empty cyl at home to tare the scale, and then grams of fuel in a partial, to take them on shorter trips. with the stoves like JB and reactor, you dont need to crank them. just enough for the flame to cover the fins. i am averaging around 27 boils per 110g fuel can, in the casades and rockies. the pots with fins do make a huge difference. dont boil in the wind, it wastes a ton of fuel. my sol ti pot finally died, after 200 or so boils.
I knew you wouldn't disappoint with the full on geek mode pile of info.
:tup:
Post by: Tbob on August 02, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on August 10, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
The MSR Reactor is bomber. A bit bulky and slightly on the heavier side, but an absolutely solid piece of kit. I particularly like the contained catalytic-type "flame" when using it inside expensive shelters (vented, of course).
My all-round favorite is the Titanium Snow Peak GigaPower (no piezo) coupled with the heat/wind shield thingy. I don't think they make it any longer. I use a Snowpeak Ti cup/pot with it most of the time. But, the pot I robbed off this alcohol burning cookset has the heat exchanger built into the pot making it more efficient and results in less fuel consumption. https://esbit.de/en/cookset-with-alcohol-burner-cs985h-ex/
If you want to go superlite, are patient, only want to get your water lukewarm, are in a windproof environment and are willing to put up with the cancer causing fume stench...Try the Esbit fuel tab stove. :chuckle:
Alcohol stoves are total bullsh...er, cowpie. Don't even bother experimenting.
Post by: Bob33 on August 10, 2016, 12:34:55 PM
Post by: scottcrb on August 10, 2016, 12:45:28 PM
Post by: pd on August 10, 2016, 12:48:48 PM
i have been geeking on stoves for the last few years. a few things i have found.. i avg about 4g fuel per boil. i scratch my boils in the side of the canister. i have a bone empty cyl at home to tare the scale, and then grams of fuel in a partial, to take them on shorter trips. with the stoves like JB and reactor, you dont need to crank them. just enough for the flame to cover the fins. i am averaging around 27 boils per 110g fuel can, in the casades and rockies. the pots with fins do make a huge difference. dont boil in the wind, it wastes a ton of fuel. my sol ti pot finally died, after 200 or so boils.
I can smell the engineer from all the way over here. Great stuff!
Post by: whacker1 on August 10, 2016, 01:49:41 PM
boil time looks longer than jetboil, but I find that the jetboil is a lie unless perfect conditions.
MSR made in the USA / seattle
Jetboil - 1.25 oz lighter.
I won't be doing anything until the jetboil dies, but thought I would point it out as an option over the Reactor. Reactor $199, windburner $128, and jetboil flash $99
It will be hard not to buy another jetboil, but I would like to support something made in the State.
Post by: mossy8352 on August 10, 2016, 02:20:36 PM
Post by: bracer40 on August 10, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Something that hasn't been mentioned is the company's support of hunting. From everything I've heard from people dealing with Jetboil, is that they DO NOT support hunting (and may even be an "anti-hunting" company.
All I've heard regarding MSR, is that they are "friendly" to our hunting pursuits.
The last thing I want to do is support a company that might be against hunting.
Just my :twocents:
Post by: davk on August 10, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
Also I'm a little worried about not knowing how much fuel is left in the cannisters after 5 or 6 uses..As others have mentioned you can do the float test. I know the MSR fuel canisters, at least the ones I have, have markings on them for the float test. Obviously you still will need to pay attention to # of uses or knowing its 1/2 full is useless if you dont know what the other 1/2 got you.
Post by: notsosneaky on August 10, 2016, 08:27:54 PM
I never use my jetboil anymore
Post by: 300rum on August 11, 2016, 06:43:21 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on August 11, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
stoves comparisons should be about weight, fuel efficiency, durability, ease of use. maybe even whether or not you can cook with them, or if theyre just straight boilers. they all boil water pretty quickly and is not a defining factor...
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 11, 2016, 09:02:34 AM
Post by: whacker1 on August 11, 2016, 11:38:55 AM
you guys that are pitching boil times crack me up, you have your stop watch out? was that 2:05 or 2:35? who cares if you can get through a whole trip on a 110g fuel. i see some peoples packing lists/pics with multiple fuel canisters. that would last me a month solo with a jetboil.
stoves comparisons should be about weight, fuel efficiency, durability, ease of use. maybe even whether or not you can cook with them, or if theyre just straight boilers. they all boil water pretty quickly and is not a defining factor...
my only comment on their boil times is that it would lead me to believe that you would use more fuel at 4 minutes vs. 2:30.
fuel efficiency is something you gain by experience for most of these. I am with one of the prior comments in that I can get 27-30 boils per canister. I would like to think that the MSR at 4 g per boil would be the same at 27.5 doing the math, but the longer boil time they publish would make me think otherwise as a knee jerk reaction.
Post by: Tbob on August 12, 2016, 10:26:31 AM
Post by: 7mag. on August 12, 2016, 11:15:06 AM