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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: ScottE on August 09, 2016, 05:36:20 PM

Title: Bow tuning help
Post by: ScottE on August 09, 2016, 05:36:20 PM: Hello all, I'm having trouble getting my bow tuned and was wondering what my options are for a bow shop in the moses lake area? Thanks
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Post by: hughjorgan on August 09, 2016, 05:46:17 PM: Not any options that I knew of when I lived there. I think your best bet is driving south to the tri cities or going to Wenatchee..
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Post by: Sneaky on August 09, 2016, 07:02:34 PM: what type of bow and what is the problem
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Post by: ScottE on August 09, 2016, 08:08:47 PM: Pse Stinger X . The arrows are fishtailing, whe i tried to paper tune the results were inconsistent.
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Post by: highside74 on August 09, 2016, 09:36:15 PM: Did it shoot bullet holes through paper after tuning?

Can you clarify what you mean by inconsistent results.

Sometimes what you think is a fishtail is your eye picking up the odd colored vane in flight.

To tune your bow you should start back at the beginning if your not sure what is going on. Level the rest so the arrow covers your burger hole. Square the rest up so your arrow lines up with the center of your grip and your sting. Then shoot it through paper 3 times then make small adjustment and repeat until you shoot perfect holes. There are plenty of charts online to show you which way to move your nock point or rest. Just remember if your using a D loop just do the opposite with the rest. If the chart says move your nock up, just lower your rest instead.
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Post by: ScottE on August 09, 2016, 09:56:23 PM: Definitely not bullet holes, some had a slight tear left some right ,basically all over the place.
At first i thought it might be the arrowspine (gold tip 300, my bow is set at 70# @ 29") but now i dont think that it. I guess ill start over.
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Post by: Gamblin Guy on August 09, 2016, 10:21:25 PM: Not sure if you have this or not but its a good guide for tuning....

http://www.eastonarchery.com/downloads/tuning-guide
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Post by: Old Dog on August 09, 2016, 10:22:00 PM: I'm really just throwing this out there, because it's impossible to diagnose over the internet, but if you are getting inconsistent tears through the paper it is probably your grip. Check out the hand position of these guys: https://www.facebook.com/woongki.baek/videos/1202586579792529/
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Post by: DaveMonti on August 09, 2016, 10:23:27 PM: I'm in the same boat. I've had and set up several bows, and have a hard time getting my current bow to paper shoot. I usually have a tear right. I've played with my grip, and I my arrow spine is correct, but for some reason with the bow I got last year, I can't get it to paper shoot a decent hole.

I ended up setting the rest as best as I could visually (left to right) and just going with it. I'm really not sure how valuable paper shooting is overall. There are lots of instructions on how to paper shoot that are not necessarily consistent with one another. Paper tuning can be a real problem. Very subtle changes in grip can make a huge difference.

Last year I got my broadheads shooting very well, but impact was not the same as it was with field points (I've never gotten field points and broadheads to print the same) despite never getting the bow to paper shoot. I just set sight with the broadheads and practiced with them all pre-season. I just got a new rest and am back to square one, can't get it to paper tune and am about to set it visually and skip the paper tune, start shooting, and keeping an eye out for fishtailing. As long as I can shoot consistently at distance, I don't care what it does on paper at 6 feet.
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Post by: demontang on August 10, 2016, 09:42:34 AM: My wife's bow I couldn't paper tune so I did a walk back and check broadhead flight to field points and it was dead on. Her bow tears in paper but the field point hits the broadhead out to 40. Some times you just can't get them to paper tune. If your ever around do yakima let me know and we can meet up and I'll see if I can help.
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Post by: theleo on August 10, 2016, 10:12:09 AM: Go to Yakima or Wenatchee, Tri-citties doesn't have a shop that really dives into the technical aspect of what you need.
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Post by: JLS on August 10, 2016, 10:18:51 AM: Center everything and then use the Easton guide to see if you can tune a bare shaft at 10 and 20 yards.

I agree with Old Dog, form is your likely culprit. Inconsistent tears in both directions is likely both your grip creating torque, and your release hand having some torque/pressure. Are you pressing on the string with your nose? Do you have vane contact?
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 10, 2016, 10:21:34 AM: Quote from: Old Dog on August 09, 2016, 10:22:00 PM
I'm really just throwing this out there, because it's impossible to diagnose over the internet, but if you are getting inconsistent tears through the paper it is probably your grip. Check out the hand position of these guys: https://www.facebook.com/woongki.baek/videos/1202586579792529/
:yeah:

A bow will do the same thing each time it's shot, unless the shooter does something different. Also a well tuned bow with the correct spined arrows can and will shoot quality broadheads and field points together.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 10, 2016, 10:23:09 AM: I typically only shoot through paper when doing initial set up. Once it's close I bare shaft tune to bare shaft and fletches field points impact together at 10 and 20 yards.
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Post by: hogslayer on August 10, 2016, 11:27:44 AM: I agree that it sounds like form. I shoot through paper to get close. That means there not exactly bullet holes sometimes. Then walk back tune and shoot a few broad heads and see where your at. I have my broad heads and field points hitting same spot up to 85 yards. I do have slight came lean at rest and zero at full draw. Some times having a little cam lean is what it takes.
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Post by: hogslayer on August 10, 2016, 11:32:25 AM: Also check to make sure your not getting fletching contact on your bow or rest. Look at all your vanes and see if there is marks and tears from hitting something. Or use the old foot powder trick with spraying them, letting them dry and then shoot them and you'll see real fast if your getting contact. I have to put my top vain at 1 o'clock to miss the riser.
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Post by: ScottE on August 10, 2016, 03:23:30 PM: Ok, great info, I really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Post by: lamrith on August 10, 2016, 06:25:19 PM: I had issues when I 1st got my Carbon knight. I would torque it one day and not the next. Made setting pins a PITA.

So I figured out a way to get consistent (for me) grip every time. I just make an "ok" sign with my bow hand, tough tip of pointer finger to thumb tip and let the rest stay open. That stops you from squeezing the grip. I carried the same grip to my new elite and have not had an issue so far.
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Post by: ScottE on August 10, 2016, 07:57:01 PM: Well I made a couple small adjustments to my rest and really concentrated on my grip, ancor and release and it really helped. Now i just need to reset my pins then i can start shooting broadheads. Thanks again for all the input sometimes you just need a 2nd or 3rd opinion.
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Post by: Fullabull on August 14, 2016, 08:58:58 PM: You really want to make sure your spine is correct.don't just go off the advertised draw weight, get it measured.I made that mistake with my new bow last year. It was shooting about six pounds less than the 70# rating. Once I found that out I used the correct arrow spine and tuning was easy.