Post by: sjhgraysage on August 15, 2016, 09:37:05 AM
What are the pros and cons of not having a floor?
what about a couple days or so of very wet rainy conditions did you get wet inside the shelter?
Thanks
Scott
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on August 15, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 15, 2016, 11:08:59 AM
Cons- waking up with a mouse on your chest.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 15, 2016, 12:19:31 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 15, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
Post by: kselkhunter on August 15, 2016, 06:22:38 PM
Post by: ian_padron on August 15, 2016, 08:51:09 PM
Pros: SUPER light. The cimarron weighs in at 40 ounces with a stovejack, the alpine basin is 20. That's freaking light man!
No mess, muddy boots? wet clothes? who cares, walk on in and toss it on the ground.
flexible, you can pitch these things in so many different ways depending on the terrain, weather, etc. I'll include some pics in another reply
ability to run a stove. that's a huge game changer come late season.
Cons: Condensation is god awful if you get the pitch wrong. After a few hard lesson I have it dialed in pretty well and keep it minimal to nonexistent depending on the weather.
If the ground is already wet, you need to make sure you have some form of floor material with you to protect your sleep system, no biggie in my opinion, and i use one no matter what the conditions are. I use a SOL emergency blanket to add a little warmth to my sleeping pad.
Post by: ian_padron on August 15, 2016, 08:53:31 PM
Pitched a bit high with tensioners and guyouts on the stake loops. No condensation.
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Pitched tight. No bueno unless the weather is real gnarly.
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Post by: ian_padron on August 15, 2016, 08:54:35 PM
One more to show how roomy the Cimarron is, I'll post the Alpine Basin as soon as I have it.
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Post by: tonymoe on August 26, 2016, 02:48:59 PM
I've never been wet with my floorless tents. I own MSR twins sister & twin brother right now. I had a seek outside 6 man teepee before. Great tent, just wasn't the right fit for me
Post by: swisski on August 26, 2016, 03:50:35 PM
I have a Seek Outside Cimarron and a Jimmy Tarps Alpine Basin in the mail. I made the leap to floorless this year, and I'm a believer.
Pros: SUPER light. The cimarron weighs in at 40 ounces with a stovejack, the alpine basin is 20. That's freaking light man!
No mess, muddy boots? wet clothes? who cares, walk on in and toss it on the ground.
flexible, you can pitch these things in so many different ways depending on the terrain, weather, etc. I'll include some pics in another reply
ability to run a stove. that's a huge game changer come late season.
Cons: Condensation is god awful if you get the pitch wrong. After a few hard lesson I have it dialed in pretty well and keep it minimal to nonexistent depending on the weather.
If the ground is already wet, you need to make sure you have some form of floor material with you to protect your sleep system, no biggie in my opinion, and i use one no matter what the conditions are. I use a SOL emergency blanket to add a little warmth to my sleeping pad.
Ian, good to meet you on Tatoosh man!
Listen to the man, once you go floor-less, you never go back. I have the SO 8 man tipi and swear by it. One learning trip was in the Olympic Peninsula last archery elk season. While the weather was better than your average November hunt, we still received a couple inches of rain over the 4 days we were there. The liner saved us in this instance, but the new preferred method for dealing with condensation is pitching it like Ian has shown above. We did this with my buddy's Cimarron last weekend and it did wonders, waking up with no condensation on the side walls.
One thing to note on the Peninsula trip, we set it up with the ground a little wet, but running the stove for a few hours took care of the situation just fine.