Post by: HunterofWA on September 10, 2016, 08:59:13 AM
Post by: fishnfur on September 10, 2016, 11:18:50 AM
Post by: HunterofWA on September 10, 2016, 01:28:07 PM
Post by: csaaphill on September 10, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on September 10, 2016, 09:11:42 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 10, 2016, 09:26:20 PM
If so, sounds like maybe a lower gut/intestine hit or muscle mass of the rear leg?
Did you recover the arrow? Was there any green or nasty smelling material on it?
If gut hit, it will likely lay down because it will be very sick shortly, may die in place if not distrubed tonight.
If leg muscle, unless you cut a major artery, could survive. When you say you are going to look after church, are talking tomorrow or an evening service tonight?
If you are talking about waiting till tomorrow late morning after church, I would sugguest skipping church, be at your spot at first light and start your search, slow and methodical.
If you wait too long into the day, you likely will lose the meat to spoilage, best chance to salvage is find it as soon as possible and before day temps start climbing.
Post by: pd on September 10, 2016, 09:57:33 PM
You are more than just a kid, you are an ethical hunter. Hold your head high, and track that deer!
I don't know the law, but if I were you, I would either:
(a) Track the deer with my bow in hand, or
(b) Track the deer with my bow back home and my dog on a leash. (Being on a leash or not is not important. If your dog will come when called, it would be the same to me.)
You don't want to have a hunting weapon (your bow) in hand, and a dog at your side. This would be very bad.
Thus, my advice is to use the dog if you can. The weather was very warm today--go after that deer at first light. They blood will still smell strongly to most dogs. As BlacktailSniper said, if "rear shoulder" means the hind quarter, then you probably just shot into muscle mass, and that deer will not die.
Was the blood "foamy" or purely red & bloody? If foamy, probably a lung shot, which should lead to death. Can you describe the blood?
I would skip church in the morning (Sunday morning services). The Good Lord would understand, even if your Mother would not.
Post by: jmscon on September 10, 2016, 10:01:53 PM
When you say "back shoulder" are you meaning hind leg?
If so, sounds like maybe a lower gut/intestine hit or muscle mass of the rear leg?
Did you recover the arrow? Was there any green or nasty smelling material on it?
If gut hit, it will likely lay down because it will be very sick shortly, may die in place if not distrubed tonight.
If leg muscle, unless you cut a major artery, could survive. When you say you are going to look after church, are talking tomorrow or an evening service tonight?
If you are talking about waiting till tomorrow late morning after church, I would sugguest skipping church, be at your spot at first light and start your search, slow and methodical.
If you wait too long into the day, you likely will lose the meat to spoilage, best chance to salvage is find it as soon as possible and before day temps start climbing.
:yeah:
Head out first thing and try to track it down. Don't bring your dog! First, it's illegal. Second, it might spook and wounded deer before you can get eyes on it from the scent of it. Even with a muscle hit it might not travel very far.
Good luck, get some sleep and I hope you find it!
Post by: HunterofWA on September 11, 2016, 08:28:34 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 11, 2016, 09:00:55 AM
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Post by: fish vacuum on September 11, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on September 11, 2016, 03:03:38 PM
Show the video to somebody who knows what they are doing. The hit might be fairly lethal depending on angle. You say it barely penetrated? Could it have hit the leg bone or are you shooting super low poundage?
I do have low poundage and thats why there wasn't hardly any penatration. I just got back from searching and saw NO blood, No tracks, No nothing! I'm really discouraged because the deer is probably wandering around with an arrow stuck into it, or rotting on the ground never to be found. I don't have a dog and none of anybody has a dog that I could use. I don't have any hope left and it has left me wondering why I had ever decided to go bowhunting in the first place.
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 11, 2016, 03:05:21 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on September 11, 2016, 03:13:56 PM
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Post by: jmscon on September 11, 2016, 08:51:11 PM
Post by: DaveMonti on September 11, 2016, 08:54:01 PM
Post by: Widgeondeke on September 11, 2016, 08:56:48 PM
Congrats and way to stick with it :tup:
Post by: jackelope on September 11, 2016, 09:03:40 PM
I GOT THE DEER!!! Pics and story tomorrow along with a video coming along soon this week.
Congrats kid! Can't wait to see some pictures. Way to stick with it.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 11, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Post by: csaaphill on September 11, 2016, 11:38:23 PM
I GOT THE DEER!!! Pics and story tomorrow along with a video coming along soon this week.grats young hunter :tup:
Post by: fish vacuum on September 12, 2016, 07:48:20 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on September 12, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
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Post by: pd on September 12, 2016, 09:32:47 AM
Glad to hear this turned out well. Enjoy the fine eating that animal will provide for you and your family
This hunter is 14 years old. That is quite the man to already be providing meat for his family!
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 12, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
I GOT THE DEER!!! Pics and story tomorrow along with a video coming along soon this week.
Jeremy, congratulations. I am so happy you got the deer. Way to stick to it and be brave enough to get back in the woods.
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 12, 2016, 09:54:39 AM
Let's get this kid outfitted for next year, I'd say he earned it. I'm in for some RAD broadheads.
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
Jeremy, PM me your address if you feel comfortable with that. If you're not, send it to one of the mods like Jackelope and I'll work it though him.
Let's get this kid outfitted for next year, I'd say he earned it. I'm in for some RAD broadheads.
Thats very thoughtful of you! I'll send a PM to Jackolope.
Post by: Jolten on September 12, 2016, 11:56:09 AM
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Post by: jmscon on September 12, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
Post by: pd on September 12, 2016, 12:52:31 PM
Post by: Widgeondeke on September 12, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
Let's get a harness on our hunter!
:yeah: I was just gonna type. PLEASE wear a harness while in the stand
Post by: pd on September 12, 2016, 12:54:51 PM
You were only slightly back on your shot. I think you did a fine job there. I would love to hear about the recovery. Did you have somebody to help you with the dressing of that deer?
Tell us the whole story, but take care of the meat first. And stop posting updates to the Internet during school!
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 12, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
Post by: jackelope on September 12, 2016, 01:11:49 PM
Let's get a harness on our hunter!
:yeah: I was just gonna type. PLEASE wear a harness while in the stand
He's got one. I covered that in a message to him. Now he just needs to WEAR IT!!
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 01:19:26 PM
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Post by: pd on September 12, 2016, 01:50:34 PM
Wait until WeatherGirl finds out about you. She will be twisting your ears off for multiple violations, not least of which is texting during class.
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 02:11:38 PM
Post by: DaveMonti on September 12, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
Great job Jeremy!
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 02:23:22 PM
I'm really interested in seeing how much help and guidance that Jeremy has had in his young hunting career. If he is doing this alone with no hunting "mentor", he's even more impressive than I was thinking! If he is doing it alone, without a family member or mentor, it would be nice if someone close by would help get him engaged with youth hunters and others that can help him along. He certainly has the drive!
Great job Jeremy!
My older brothers all duck hunt and when I passed hunter's ed at age 8, then I thought deer hunting was the dumbest thing people could think of. So I stuck to duck hunting (and I still do) But any ways how I started deer hunting was because my older brother shot this... and ever since then ( 3 years) I have been hunting black-tails. I've got two down now in 3 years of hunting. So to answer your question, I did have some guidance from my brothers. All the things I've been doing with food plots and deer herd monertering, is new to my family and they don't really get it, so I'm kinda plowing through some new ground in that matter.
Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
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Post by: Becky on September 12, 2016, 05:05:49 PM
So cool to see that when you thought you were doomed, you stuck with it and found your harvest!! Congratulations young man!!
:yeah: I'm so happy to have read through the whole thread! Great ending. I seen a pic of your buck from last year :tup: :tup: great future ahead of you.
Post by: djnoodle on September 12, 2016, 07:43:57 PM
Remember this experience, learn from it, and don't ever doubt whether or not you should be hunting. You should be hunting. (After school, of course.) :tup
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Post by: HunterofWA on September 12, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
Alright, here's the story! :)
I'm going to start from the when I got out to the stand on Saturday, 4:00 pm.
I get into the stand, get settled in, the wind is looking good so far and all seems to be coming along good. I turn on the camera to do my interview and then after that I sit tight for the hunt. I turned on an audio book with my Ipod, and sit there for a while. Along while, time flies by and the wind stays steady, blowing the leaves around while I sit and listen. At about 5:00 o'clock, I was starting to feel pretty thirsty, and I was thinking ahead that if I started to get light headed later on and went unconscious... something bad would happen. So I travel on home, (My house Isn't far from where I hunt) grab a water bottle out of the fridge talk to my younger brother about the hunt so far and then head back out to the stand. By the time I get in the stand again I was feeling like I wasn't going to see anything, but every half hour or so, I would slowly stand up in the stand and glass the surrounding area. At about 6:45 I was getting hopeful because this was about the time that the deer had started to show themselves on the Trail cam. I sit there waiting and waiting checking the wind, and glassing the area. At 7:15 I slowly stood up in my stand, to glass the area again, and I stood there for a while. While it was gradually getting darker and darker. At exactly 7:30 I hear a twig snap, It just about scared the living daylights out of me! I look over my left shoulder,(because I was facing backwards looking at the bedding area behind me). As I look down, I see the doe and her fawn tramping out of the clear-cut ten feet from the base of my tree stand right to the wet cob and apples. I was so stunned that she couldn't see me or hadn't smelt me! After I came out of the shock of seeing a deer so close unnoticed, I slowly swung the camera arm around and pushed the record button. Over the space of 3 minutes the deer sat there chowing down there supper and it took me those whole three minutes to grab my bow, clip on the release, and then I waited for the doe to put her head down again so I could pull back the bow. As soon as I did she I slowly pulled the bow to full draw, She instantly jerked her head up and looked in my direction, from the looks of things, it seemed that she knew something wasn't right. Now was the moment I had been waiting for so long... I took a deep breath, slowly let the air out of my shaking body and squeezed the trigger. Right as I shot, the arrow whizzed through the air and struck the deer low in the gut. The deer took off like the end of the world was at hand, crashing through the ferns while trying to shake off the arrow, but that arrow wasn't going anywhere, it was stuck sure. I watched with mixed feelings as I had seen clearly that it was a really poor shot, but I was still confident that it was enough to bring the doe down. After listening carefully for about 30 second she ran out of ear shot. I sat in the stand for about 10 minutes and then packed up the gear and climbed down the stand to look for a little blood where I shot her. I saw a little blood here and there, but not enough to track. After a little more searching the blood disappeared. I decided that from what I've read about gut shots, that it is a good Idea to wait to search till the next day. I went home and watched the shot hundreds of time in slow-motion trying to decipher the exact location of the shot. After that, I went to bed and decided to wait to search till after church the next day. I slept well to my surprise but I was still not very hopeful that I could find that deer. During the service I was having a hard time paying attention to the sermon because I was getting nervous that I wasn't going to be able to recover the deer. When I got home I decided to check the camera so that I could get the most recent information on what was going on in the area and to see if the deer had showed up or if there was some unusual activity of coyotes in the area. Nothing had showed up that was unusual, the fawn had come and cleaned up the COB a bit. (I think that I'll keep this bait pile going for the sake of the fawn.) After a little more searching I gave up. There was now way I could find that thing, I felt horrible. Anyway I went back to the tree stand to go put the SD card back in the cam, and then walked the roads of the clear-cut feeling very depressed and discouraged. On my way back, I passed the area where I had last seen the deer the evening before, and thought I should give it just one last try. So I started trudging down the slope that goes toward the creek because I have read that gut shot deer get really thirsty and will most likely head toward a water source, and deer usually run down hill. So I keep going down and about half way down the slope, I saw some really scuffed up tracks heading down hill. My heart started pumping. I kept heading down the slope, and I finally reached the bottom. I had seen some more tracks and crushed leaves so I followed a trail through some salmonberry and sword fern. I continued to follow a trail walking about ten feet per minute investigating the area, taking note of every thing that looked like a trail. And after a little while, I saw blood. I mean blood. I was so excited I could hardly believe it! I had just basically walked 150 yards from my stand guessing where I thought a deer might go. I continued down that path making my way into a less thick area and I began seeing a lot more blood. Since I shot the deer on the right side, I knew that when the blood was on the right side of the trail, the deer was heading forward. I continued the search finding a good trail of blood, but then I came to a point where I was literally tracking tiny pin head size drops of blood every 20 feed or so. I was getting doubtful but still praying about every ten feet for the trail to appear again, and then when I was about done thinking it was lost I prayed one last prayer that I would see just one, just one my drop of blood. I looked up and there, 10 FEET IN FRONT OF ME THE DEER WAS PILED UP!!!! I was so amazed. Just amazed that after all that tracking, I had actually found the deer!!! I slowly walked up to it, jabbed it with my boot, it didn't move so I rolled it over staring at it like it was from heaven. To my amazement the arrow was still stuck in the deer and it looked like it had made a wreck of it's stomach. I dragged the deer to the base of the hill, and ran home to tell my family. My older brother came out and helped me gut it and then we carried home on a pole like the old Indian style. I have to say that it was a miracle that I found that thing and that the deer had already expired. But that's my story I wish all you guys good luck this season! I learned a lot from this hunt and I hope this is a beginning of many more successful bow kills to come!
Thanks for taking the time to read this, it means a lot to me what all you guys and gals have said to encourage and congratulate me.
Post by: pd on September 12, 2016, 09:16:14 PM
Now, get back to school and ask your teacher about forming paragraphs. 8)
Post by: DaveMonti on September 12, 2016, 09:46:25 PM
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Post by: HunterofWA on September 13, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
Nice. Got a little creeky in your stand. Bet you can resolve yhat pretty easy. I could see that arrow shaking a bit...got my blood going as well waiting for you to draw and loose. Keep it up, i enjoyed watching it.
Thanks!
Post by: bowhunterforever on September 13, 2016, 06:11:47 PM
Post by: Becky on September 13, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
I know it's too late to edit it or anything, but we're hunting-washington.com ;) huntwa.com is an unused website :chuckle:
Post by: csaaphill on September 13, 2016, 10:42:27 PM
Post by: pd on September 13, 2016, 11:00:37 PM
Jason Phelps, watch out, your competition has arrived. :tup:
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on September 14, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
Glad to hear this turned out well. Enjoy the fine eating that animal will provide for you and your family
This hunter is 14 years old. That is quite the man to already be providing meat for his family!
Parents and siblings still count as family do they not? Or is he the only one allowed to partake in his harvest
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Post by: HunterofWA on September 14, 2016, 09:37:58 AM
Glad to hear this turned out well. Enjoy the fine eating that animal will provide for you and your family
This hunter is 14 years old. That is quite the man to already be providing meat for his family!
Parents and siblings still count as family do they not? Or is he the only one allowed to partake in his harvest
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Of course there my family, and no I share my harvests with everyone in my family. (except for the venison jerky I hide away) :chuckle:
Post by: Holg3107 on September 14, 2016, 09:58:05 AM
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Post by: HunterofWA on September 14, 2016, 05:18:10 PM
Congrats man! I'm a little more than a year older than you so I love seeing people my age getting deer! I'm struggling to get out as much as I'd like with the classes I'm taking but I love seeing others getting it done! Way to go man and way to persevere! That takes solid integrity and dedication!
Thanks man! I hope you have the opportunity to harvest a deer as well this season.
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Post by: predatorG on September 17, 2016, 06:12:34 PM
Wow that's awesome! I've been bow hunting for 2 seasons now with nothing. I was getting to think I should switch back to rifle but now I'm re-inspired to keep at it!
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I'm on the same boat. After 4 years of nada I finally dropped something yesterday. Felt sooooo good
Post by: HunterofWA on September 18, 2016, 08:32:27 AM
What you get?Wow that's awesome! I've been bow hunting for 2 seasons now with nothing. I was getting to think I should switch back to rifle but now I'm re-inspired to keep at it!
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I'm on the same boat. After 4 years of nada I finally dropped something yesterday. Felt sooooo good