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Title: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: jbeaumont21 on September 15, 2016, 09:53:31 AM: Hey guys,

I'm looking for some recommendations for 1 liter water containers that are quiet and easy to carry in your pack while hunting. I've used the camel back style bladders in the past and want to get away from this as the mouth piece eventually breaks and leaks. Also they are a pain in the butt to clean. I have also used the nalgene style bottle and unless they are full they slosh around and make too much noise. What do you guys recommend?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 15, 2016, 10:00:27 AM: Camelbacks are easy, durable and quiet. I'm unsure what problems you've had, but if you want quiet and volume, that's the way to go. You can also always use a survival filter straw in elk pee puddles but it's not as handy nor as palatable!

Cleaning is a snap. Fill with water. Put in a cap of bleach, get some of the bleach water into the tube, and let it sit overnight. Drain and dry with paper towels and a long-handled wooden spoon to get all the way inside and in the crevices.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Rider on September 15, 2016, 10:02:16 AM: I know you don't want a bladder..... but it is really the best option.

I have this one: https://www.rei.com/product/866421/platypus-big-zip-lp-reservoir-2-liter

Super easy to clean - wash, rinse, well, and freeze. Seriously keep it in the freezer. Eliminates bacteria build up. The Platypus tastes better than the MSI or CamelBack bladders.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 15, 2016, 10:05:00 AM: I have a platypus and several camelbacks. I keep them clean and don't really notice a difference in taste. Good tip on the freezer or the fridge. The brown stuff starts floating around after just a couple hot days.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: jbeaumont21 on September 15, 2016, 10:12:27 AM: Thanks for the ideas guys but I'm trying to get away from the whole drinking tube with mouth piece thing. I don't want a bladder on my back. I'm looking more for a water bottle to put in my hip pack that isn't going to make a ton of noise sloshing around. Maybe something like this that I could just squeeze the air out eliminating the sloshing noise? http://www.reuseit.com/vapur-vapur-eclipse-foldable-water-bottle-34-oz.htm?affid=GA&gclid=Cj0KEQjwjem-BRC_isGJlJ-0h-MBEiQAbCimWLmtDYWw2Om9ww7MaY6EDMwoVLMXXnoh1SUHB4aruGEaAsuw8P8HAQ

Or perhaps an insulated water bottle that deafens the splashing sound?

Curious what other have tried and tested.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 15, 2016, 10:18:49 AM: I went to a bottle this year and am wondering why I didn't make the switch and throw away my bladder a long time ago. I hate hiking and trying to drink from a bladder when winded. Makes me feel like I'll pass out. Also it's much faster for me to throw some water down from a bottle than to suck out of a bladder. As for sloshing I haven't noticed any issue with that at all. I have a 50 oz bottle.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Rider on September 15, 2016, 10:22:00 AM: Great article on water storage: http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/a/11118/The-Best-Water-Storage-Solution-for-Backpacking

You may want to try a soft bottle: https://www.rei.com/product/849826/platypus-softbottle-water-bottle-34-fl-oz

Same idea as a bladder, just smaller and fits in a pocket. I went with a 2 liter bladder because I dehydrate easily and need the extra water.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: KNOPHISH on September 15, 2016, 10:56:15 AM: When my water bottle is sloshing it means I'm walking too fast & slow down.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 15, 2016, 11:00:55 AM: The Nalgene collapsible bottles I have are a harder plastic (crinkle noise when cold) than the Platypus that I have. Sloshing can be eliminated by squeezing out the air. The wide mouth on the Nalgene is nice for clean up and drying, and I have not seen such on a platypus.

But I have not really had a problem with the camelbaks either. The mouthpiece, bite valve, can be replaced when it leaks, you can get a bite valve cover that prevents leaking due to a smashed bite valve, or you can also put another makers real twist valve in-line or as part of the bite valve such as the platypus shut-off bite valve.

For what they are, the bladder systems are hard to replace with a bottle system.

https://www.rei.com/product/107451/platypus-inline-valve
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: j_h_nimrod on September 15, 2016, 11:42:00 AM: I carry an original Nalgene wide mouth...just to fill my bladder if a rigid bottle is necessary or to mix flavored drink packets if I want. If you are just carrying a fanny pack they don't work, but I'm not sure why you would opt to carry a fanny pack to begin with if you are going far enough to need water. I use a 100oz Camelbak that I have had for about ~15 years and replaced the bite valve once in that time, and that only because mice like that silicone for some reason. Never had problems with foulness, occasionally clean it and usually store it dry for any length of time. The greatest thing about the packs is you keep more consistently hydrated, you don't have to stop to slug half a bottle. Is it easier to stop, take out a bottle and try to drink while huffing n puffing or sip as you go? The worst thing I have found with bladders is you drink more than you realize at times and run out.

On the flip side if you are moving fast enough that your rigid bottle makes noise, you are making enough other noise that the little water bottle slosh is moot.

It sounds like you have made up your mind though, to each their own. So in that case these are both good ones.

http://www.cascadedesigns.com/platypus/bottles-and-storage/meta-bottle-water-bottle/product

http://www.cascadedesigns.com/platypus/bottles-and-storage/softbottle/product
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Zardoz on September 15, 2016, 12:08:44 PM: Our group always used "botas" for our water supply. Flexible, soft and very quiet.

https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Mountain-Leather-Bota-Pint/dp/B0045E9E3G/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1473966470&sr=8-3&keywords=bota+bag+leather
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Antlershed on September 15, 2016, 03:17:27 PM: I carry two 32oz Nalgene bottles on my Kifaru pack belt. My Katadyn Filter has an attachment that fits right on top, and like was mentioned, if you are walking fast enough to hear them sloshing, chances are you are making a bunch of other noise as well. :twocents:
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: jbeaumont21 on September 15, 2016, 04:03:33 PM: Thanks again guys for the comments!

I wear an Alps Big Bear pack as it seems to work well for my day trips from base camp. http://www.alpsoutdoorz.com/products/packs/hunting-packs/big-bear Believe it or not I can fit an entire deboned rear elk quarter inside the upper day pack that extends out, although I don't recommend multiple trips that way.

For whatever reason I don't need a lot of water throughout the day for drinking and end up using most of it for a mt house lunch. Trust me it doesn't take much for a small air bubble in the nalgene wide mouth to make a gulp sound as you rock back and forth stepping over a log. Obviously I am moving along quiet enough to hear the sound, and to the point it has me shopping for a new bottle.

I like the idea of a soft silicone style bottle that I can squeeze the air out of. Thanks for this link, I may have to give this one a try! http://www.cascadedesigns.com/platypus/bottles-and-storage/meta-bottle-water-bottle/product
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: rasbo on September 15, 2016, 04:13:32 PM: I just use good ol bottled water that's not loud,then when I drink I squeeze the bottle until the water is at the cap and close it..never have any noise.I use to use the bladders but clean up was a pain...
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: asmith on September 15, 2016, 05:33:34 PM: Ive always used the older plastic military canteens with belt. Even half empty, they don't make noise and they are light weight and leave room in your pack.

I just picked up a military issue camelback with cleaning system so I will be switching to that. Opposite of what youre doing.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: Bullkllr on September 15, 2016, 06:23:24 PM: Quote from: rasbo on September 15, 2016, 04:13:32 PM
I just use good ol bottled water that's not loud,then when I drink I squeeze the bottle until the water is at the cap and close it..never have any noise.I use to use the bladders but clean up was a pain...

:yeah:

And then when empty (and I don't want to refill) I mash it into a ball and stow it in a secure place.
Title: Re: Silent Water Bottle?
Post by: j_h_nimrod on September 15, 2016, 06:46:37 PM: You guys must use some foul water, back wash severely, or add stuff to your bladders or something. Other than running fresh water and giving it a few good shakes I have only really cleaned my Camelbak twice with bleach in 15 years of use. Maybe because it is in an insulated Unbottle that does not allow light :dunno: