Post by: DJ_Mack on September 21, 2016, 12:04:08 PM
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Post by: Evil_EdwardO on September 21, 2016, 12:32:27 PM
I am trying to help my buddy find a scope. His total budget is 250$ and I thought it would be good to check with what you guys thought. He has a Vortex Diamondback HP he really likes. But they run more than 250$. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!
I own the non HP version of the Diamondback and love it. It's only $199.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2420143242/vortex-optics-diamondback-rifle-scope-4-12x-40mm-matte
Post by: PolarBear on September 21, 2016, 12:34:13 PM
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Post by: JDHasty on September 21, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
Another Leupold VX-1
And they have a $50 rebate that is still going on I think
Post by: bosshogg112 on September 21, 2016, 01:38:06 PM
I've had really good luck with the nikon buckmasters. Very good scope for the money, I shot alot of deer and elk with that scope.
:yeah: I have these on top of all my rifles and they have performed very well for me. Was able to shoot my deer last fall right at first shooting light at approx. 150 yards.
You might also try looking around a pawn shop. I think that there are a few manufactures out there with lifetime warranties that will fix anything that is broken on it.
Post by: thinkingman on September 22, 2016, 07:54:11 AM
Burris Fullfield scopes are excellent in that space.
Pentax also markets re-labeled Burris scopes.
I have seen Zeiss Terra scopes for under $250.
Vortex Crossfire would not even be on my radar.
Post by: bobcat on September 22, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
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Post by: luvmystang67 on September 22, 2016, 08:25:34 AM
The VX-1 would be my choice. i've tried higher end bushnells, nikons and redfield. The good old VX-1 is just hard to beat. Its quality that every hunter from every generation understands and they've never let me down.
Post by: HntnFsh on September 22, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
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Post by: JDHasty on September 22, 2016, 11:42:57 AM
I have an FX3 6x42 for sale. $300
That is a great scope. If I were in the market for a $250 scope that is probably the only one that would get me to step up and fork over an additional $50
In fact that is probably the most under rated/under appreciated scopes on the market
Post by: 270Shooter on September 22, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
Post by: thinkingman on September 23, 2016, 07:58:48 AM
Exactly why there are no Leupolds in my safe or future.
VX1 glass was inferior to my Burris FFII when I did a direct comparison.
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 23, 2016, 09:07:11 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html)
Exactly why there are no Leupolds in my safe or future.
VX1 glass was inferior to my Burris FFII when I did a direct comparison.
That link just sends you to a great story about an old scope that received amazing warranty service... I'm not sure i see your point.
For what its worth, I purchased a bushnell elite 3200 because it performed better in tests with light transmission than similar priced leupolds and whatever else I was looking at. It is my least favorite scope. Poor eye relief, hard to turn dials, feels and looks cheap.
I've never tried the burris, might be just fine, but i was burned once for branching out and wont do it again. I wish i had bought the leupold at that time.
Also, for what its worth, if you buy a leupold and dont like it, someone will always buy it off you for near what you paid... Anyone here willing to give me $250... or even $200 for my bushnell elite 3200... I dont think so, but the specs are there.
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 23, 2016, 09:12:12 AM
In the leupold family I have:
Leupold Rifleman, a VX-1, a Vari-Xii and two Vari-Xiii and a redfield something or other.
I honestly cant tell much of a difference between the glass when I'm using them. I tried to get fancy by getting bigger numbers, but really the VX-1 is fine. The rifleman just feels cheap and I don't liek the 1/2" MOA adjustments
Post by: thinkingman on September 23, 2016, 10:02:10 AM
Sorry you don't like your Bushnell...Seems like a decent scope but you're right about resale...Toyota, Colt, Leupold all have a cult following no matter the actual quality of the item.http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html)
Exactly why there are no Leupolds in my safe or future.
VX1 glass was inferior to my Burris FFII when I did a direct comparison.
That link just sends you to a great story about an old scope that received amazing warranty service... I'm not sure i see your point.
For what its worth, I purchased a bushnell elite 3200 because it performed better in tests with light transmission than similar priced leupolds and whatever else I was looking at. It is my least favorite scope. Poor eye relief, hard to turn dials, feels and looks cheap.
I've never tried the burris, might be just fine, but i was burned once for branching out and wont do it again. I wish i had bought the leupold at that time.
Also, for what its worth, if you buy a leupold and dont like it, someone will always buy it off you for near what you paid... Anyone here willing to give me $250... or even $200 for my bushnell elite 3200... I dont think so, but the specs are there.
I just don't like the fact that not a month goes by that someone doesn't proudly state how their Leupold scope failed and the factory sent them a brand new replacement.
I don't see Bushnell 3200 failures nearly as often...or Nikon, or Burris.
I understand that there are not as many Bushnell 3200's out there.....still....
Post by: superdown on September 23, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
Sorry you don't like your Bushnell...Seems like a decent scope but you're right about resale...Toyota, Colt, Leupold all have a cult following no matter the actual quality of the item.http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,200804.0.html)Do you suppose that could be that there or probably hundreds of thousands or even millions more Leupolds out ghere. Than the others. I think it's something that has to be taken Inot consideration.
Exactly why there are no Leupolds in my safe or future.
VX1 glass was inferior to my Burris FFII when I did a direct comparison.
That link just sends you to a great story about an old scope that received amazing warranty service... I'm not sure i see your point.
For what its worth, I purchased a bushnell elite 3200 because it performed better in tests with light transmission than similar priced leupolds and whatever else I was looking at. It is my least favorite scope. Poor eye relief, hard to turn dials, feels and looks cheap.
I've never tried the burris, might be just fine, but i was burned once for branching out and wont do it again. I wish i had bought the leupold at that time.
Also, for what its worth, if you buy a leupold and dont like it, someone will always buy it off you for near what you paid... Anyone here willing to give me $250... or even $200 for my bushnell elite 3200... I dont think so, but the specs are there.
I just don't like the fact that not a month goes by that someone doesn't proudly state how their Leupold scope failed and the factory sent them a brand new replacement.
I don't see Bushnell 3200 failures nearly as often...or Nikon, or Burris.
I understand that there are not as many Bushnell 3200's out there.....still....
Post by: slm9s on September 23, 2016, 11:38:15 AM
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11428032/GLASS!_Leupold,_Zeiss,_Nikon_s#Post11428032
Post by: DJ_Mack on September 26, 2016, 09:57:47 AM
I just bought 2 used - like new Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scopes from this seller, they arrived in excellent shape, cost was $200 shipped each. Here is his ad with what he has left.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11428032/GLASS!_Leupold,_Zeiss,_Nikon_s#Post11428032
That is a killer deal!!
Post by: coachcw on September 26, 2016, 07:58:21 PM
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Post by: JDHasty on September 27, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
I have had more trouble with older made in USA Burris than with all others combined.
Post by: Special T on September 27, 2016, 10:12:19 AM
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Post by: JDHasty on September 27, 2016, 10:55:02 AM
If you can find a Leopold in your price range it's a good choice. I own several Nixon scopes and I would say they are the best value scope. Since there are only 3 lense mfg and nikon is one of them I think they are worth a look. The lens factory is next to the scope optics factory. I don't think you can get much more efficient than that.
Just off the top of my head - Swarovski, Nikon, Zeiss, Leitz, Fujinon... plus Chinese, plus Indian, plus Russian
Post by: Special T on September 27, 2016, 12:17:28 PM
Post by: Bofire on September 27, 2016, 06:39:56 PM
Carl
Post by: JeffRaines on September 27, 2016, 08:45:38 PM
Post by: JDHasty on September 28, 2016, 05:43:28 AM
I know it's a bit over your budget but I'd consider the new nikons with the FFP BDC. At least that's what's going on my next rifle
I owned a Nikon 5-20 Monarch 3 with that hokey BDC arrangement Nikon has and gave it away to my seven year old daughter. Try before you buy would be my advice
Post by: CP on September 28, 2016, 06:26:27 AM
I know it's a bit over your budget but I'd consider the new nikons with the FFP BDC. At least that's what's going on my next rifle
I owned a Nikon 5-20 Monarch 3 with that hokey BDC arrangement Nikon has and gave it away to my seven year old daughter. Try before you buy would be my advice
I never understood the need for the extra $$ to put the BDC reticle in the first focal plane. If your target is far enough away to require one of the BDC marks it’s far enough away that you would want full magnification.
Personally I don’t like the clutter on the reticle and I don’t want to fiddle with the knobs before shooting. There are lots of good scopes out there under $250 if you are willing to go simple.
Try before you buy would be great, but I don’t know how you can do that with scopes.
Post by: JDHasty on September 28, 2016, 08:41:29 AM
I know it's a bit over your budget but I'd consider the new nikons with the FFP BDC. At least that's what's going on my next rifle
I owned a Nikon 5-20 Monarch 3 with that hokey BDC arrangement Nikon has and gave it away to my seven year old daughter. Try before you buy would be my advice
I never understood the need for the extra $$ to put the BDC reticle in the first focal plane. If your target is far enough away to require one of the BDC marks it’s far enough away that you would want full magnification.
Personally I don’t like the clutter on the reticle and I don’t want to fiddle with the knobs before shooting. There are lots of good scopes out there under $250 if you are willing to go simple.
Try before you buy would be great, but I don’t know how you can do that with scopes.
Unless you know someone who has one it does get a bit problematic.
The Nikon BDC that I reference above is a scope that came out of Nikon's "field staff" program. I used to run a large gun counter 25 years ago and still maintain many of the contacts I have had w/in the industry and have had opportunity to "field test" and opine on quite a bit of equipment over the years.
What I can say about the Nikon Monarch 3 5-20 is that it is a fabulous scope. The BDC reticle, as Nikon constitutes it, is something I never warmed up to. It isn't for me. BUT that doesn't mean it isn't for everyone, younger guys and gals seem to love it, old guys like me don't really seem to like it.
My nephew tried pretty hard to get that scope off me, but then he ended up buying one after I took too long in making up my mind on what was to become of it. It now belongs to my seven year old daughter and her little brother and sister.
Post by: fly-by on September 29, 2016, 06:52:13 AM
Check out the Primary Arms offerings. They give you quote a bit of bang for the buck.
Agreed. The 4-14x44 with basic mil dots and no illumination is a great FFP scope for the $. I have a couple of them and am very pleased.
Post by: slm9s on October 01, 2016, 01:57:37 PM
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Post by: b23 on October 07, 2016, 08:21:30 PM
Post by: JDHasty on October 07, 2016, 08:50:42 PM
Cabelas has the Burris MTAC 30 4.5-14x42 w/AO on sale for $229 regular price is $549. I have a couple of these scopes now and for that kind of money, I don't know of anything better.
Other than the fact that Burris scopes are heavy...
IDK, just give me a Leupold on my big game rifle and I am just fine with it. It could be a VX1 3-9 and I would be good. I use a VX3i in 2.5-10, but a VX1 would be what I would go for if that is what my budget suggested and would not feel that I could have done better.
Post by: b23 on October 07, 2016, 11:39:51 PM
Cabelas has the Burris MTAC 30 4.5-14x42 w/AO on sale for $229 regular price is $549. I have a couple of these scopes now and for that kind of money, I don't know of anything better.
Other than the fact that Burris scopes are heavy...
IDK, just give me a Leupold on my big game rifle and I am just fine with it. It could be a VX1 3-9 and I would be good. I use a VX3i in 2.5-10, but a VX1 would be what I would go for if that is what my budget suggested and would not feel that I could have done better.
The only centerfires I'm using them on is a couple AR's and probably one is going on the CZ 527 that I still have sitting doing nothing. I've spoiled all my other centerfires with NF NXS optics.
I have a two Vari X III 4.5-14x40 on a couple rimefires and a Leupy AR MOD1 3-9x40 on my daughters M&P 15-22, to my eyes, these new Burris 4.5-14x42's are definitely better.