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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: nicz on September 21, 2016, 02:06:31 PM

Title: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 21, 2016, 02:06:31 PM: I wanted to check if you know anyone that has land with "deer problems" in Sammamish-Issaquah area? :chuckle:
I have a multi season tag and I'm wiling to split the catch with the land owner.
PM if interested.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: fishnfur on September 21, 2016, 10:11:27 PM: They're all deer huggers. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Angry Perch on September 22, 2016, 08:08:50 AM: Quote from: fishnfur on September 21, 2016, 10:11:27 PM
They're all deer huggers. :chuckle:

Hey now, I resent that comment. I live in Sammamish, but the only deer problem I have is that I can never find anything bigger than a spike! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: kukusya on September 22, 2016, 08:13:51 AM: Quote from: Angry Perch on September 22, 2016, 08:08:50 AM
Quote from: fishnfur on September 21, 2016, 10:11:27 PM
They're all deer huggers. :chuckle:

Hey now, I resent that comment. I live in Sammamish, but the only deer problem I have is that I can never find anything bigger than a spike! :chuckle:

I saw 4 point at central park Issaquah Highlands. :tung:
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 22, 2016, 10:24:58 AM: They prefer to hit them with the cars instead of giving permission to hunt. Last fall I watched a 5x5 huge buck in different backyards the entire summer and somebody hit it with the car by the Pine Lake Park in October. Such a waste.
The rule changed this year, in Unit 454 you can hunt any deer.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: DaveMonti on September 22, 2016, 10:28:53 AM: You might do better looking out a bit further, towards Fall City, Carnation, Duvall, North Bend, etc.
You will have to work very hard to secure access as most property owners I know have been approached MANY times by folks looking for places to hunt. Good luck!
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ldjbuff on September 22, 2016, 11:49:16 AM: Plenty of great spots in Fall City. Shot a few bucks there
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 22, 2016, 12:38:15 PM: That's a good idea, I will try that area too. Is there a lot of public land?
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ShadowHunter on September 23, 2016, 07:58:02 AM: Be careful where you hunt. It's been illegal to hunt in Sammamish for over 10 years.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Dan-o on September 23, 2016, 08:33:21 AM: And shooting someone's pet can get dicey.......
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Bob33 on September 23, 2016, 08:40:45 AM: Quote from: ShadowHunter on September 23, 2016, 07:58:02 AM
Be careful where you hunt. It's been illegal to hunt in Sammamish for over 10 years.
That is not correct. It is illegal to discharge a firearm.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: jackelope on September 23, 2016, 08:49:14 AM: Quote from: nicz on September 22, 2016, 12:38:15 PM
That's a good idea, I will try that area too. Is there a lot of public land?

In 454 around Fall City, there is not a lot of public land, and it's all firearms restricted I believe, as a heads up. Check the local laws to verify that on your own.
There is some public, not a lot.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 23, 2016, 09:48:02 AM: Yes, lots of deer lovers in Sammamish- Issaquah :chuckle:
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ldjbuff on September 23, 2016, 10:10:20 AM: Get as high as you can in the fall city area. If you have a map in your GPS that shows private and public land that is very helpful. I lived in Fall City for 25 years and shot many deer on public land near a lake.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ShadowHunter on September 24, 2016, 03:49:58 AM: Quote from: Bob33 on September 23, 2016, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: ShadowHunter on September 23, 2016, 07:58:02 AM
Be careful where you hunt. It's been illegal to hunt in Sammamish for over 10 years.
That is not correct. It is illegal to discharge a firearm.

Sorry Bob, but your info is not fully correct. Yes, it's illegal to discharge a firearm there. However, it is also illegal to "hunt" there.

https://www.sammamish.us/files/ordinance/991.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Bob33 on September 24, 2016, 07:18:11 AM: From: Preuss, Lori (DFW)
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: hunting access question

RCW 9.41.300(2)(a) says,

(2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:
(a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others.

No municipalities may prohibit hunting within city limits. Only WDFW has the authority to regulate hunting. However, as stated above, a municipality can restrict the discharge of firearms within city limits (or a portion thereof) if they can show there is a reasonable likelihood that the discharge of firearms in these areas will jeopardize the safety of humans, domestic animals, or property.

Sammamish does not have the legal authority to prohibit hunting on the undeveloped DNR land. But they can prohibit the discharge of firearms there if they can make the showing required in RCW 9.41.300(2)(a).

I hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you have other questions.

Lori Preuss, WSBA #33045

WDFW Criminal Justice Liaison &

Administrative Regulations Coordinator

Lori.preuss@dfw.wa.gov
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: highmuley on September 24, 2016, 09:55:09 AM: I have 8 or so different bucks in my yard, in issaquah. Biggest being a 3x4. I'm having a hard time NOT popping one. We normally hunt the Eastside. Lots of deer out here though.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: jessie88 on September 24, 2016, 10:14:59 AM: Quote from: nicz on September 22, 2016, 10:24:58 AM
They prefer to hit them with the cars instead of giving permission to hunt. Last fall I watched a 5x5 huge buck in different backyards the entire summer and somebody hit it with the car by the Pine Lake Park in October. Such a waste.
The rule changed this year, in Unit 454 you can hunt any deer.

the rule for 454 is still any buck for modern season. its always been any deer for archery. :tup:
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 24, 2016, 10:21:56 AM: Highmuley I have a multiseason tag and I hunt mostly during archery season. Are the bucks stil on your property?
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: highmuley on September 24, 2016, 10:57:26 AM: Quote from: nicz on September 24, 2016, 10:21:56 AM
Highmuley I have a multiseason tag and I hunt mostly during archery season. Are the bucks stil on your property?

They've been hit and miss the last month or so. Mostly does. We've been seeing more coyotes, Bob cats and cougar lately.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 24, 2016, 02:15:31 PM: Can I get your permission to hunt a doe?
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ShadowHunter on September 26, 2016, 09:27:44 AM: Bob, I appreciate the additional info. A little background so you'll understand where I'm coming from with this. I was born and raised in what would later become the city of Sammamish. I lived there for almost 60 years before I pulled the plug and moved to the "dry side". I and my hunting partners have always hunted over on this side, one of those partners still lives in Sammamish. He sees deer and often bucks on his property all the time. When we are done hunting mulies over here, blacktails are still open over there and almost every year he calls me to tell me about the big bucks standing around just waiting to get arrowed. He won't do it because of this "law" and the fact that he's sent me at least 3 links to newspaper articles about bowhunters prosecuted under this law over the years, all were on private property.

The letter from the dept. you posted was obviously in response to a specific incident or case. Without knowing (and I don't "need" to know) the question, these lines "seem" to contradict each other.

"No municipalities may prohibit hunting within city limits. Only WDFW has the authority to regulate hunting."
"Sammamish does not have the legal authority to prohibit hunting on the undeveloped DNR land."

If "only" the dept has that authority, it shouldn't matter who's land it is, as long as one has permission to be on it if it's not your own. Do you know where this undeveloped DNR land is? I don't know of any DNR land "in" Sammamish.

The RCW cited is in reference to firearms. I took a quick look at the WAC's and RCW's to see if there was something to back-up this claim: " No municipalities may prohibit hunting within city limits. Only WDFW has the authority to regulate hunting." and found nothing. Can you, or anybody else help me out here?

I guess more to the point, if the above is true, why are they getting away with it???
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 26, 2016, 12:50:42 PM: There is a city ordinance that prohibits hunting on public land. On private property you can hunt with the owner's permission and only with bow and arrow. (see article 3) GMU 454 is part of the firearm restriction area so you can't discharge a firearm. This is my interpretation of the ordinance and the rules. If somebody knows otherwise let me know. I've heard of people prosecuted, it looks like they killed a deer in Beaver lake park a few years ago.
I would check with the local authorities before going hunting though.

https://www.sammamish.us/files/ordinance/991.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: bigtex on September 26, 2016, 02:06:12 PM: There will soon be less DNR land in the area. DNR is in the process of transferring their Preston area lands to King County. Once this is done it will be county land (park) and off limits to hunting.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Special T on September 26, 2016, 02:07:53 PM: So that DNR section atop of the hill in Preston will be a King County Park? I got a buddy who will be less than thrilled.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: colersu22 on September 26, 2016, 03:57:40 PM: http://www.valleyrecord.com/news/382380471.html

Here is a link with what lot was transferred.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Special T on September 26, 2016, 04:10:26 PM: Thx for the link 35 archers isn't the land I was thinking about
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: highmuley on September 27, 2016, 04:34:24 PM: Quote from: nicz on September 24, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
Can I get your permission to hunt a doe?

Dont think momma would appreciate it. Shes fond of our backyard blacktails. I appreciate you asking though.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: nicz on September 27, 2016, 08:07:23 PM: Back to eastern Wa then:)
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: ShadowHunter on September 29, 2016, 04:24:35 AM: Nicz, thanks for the info, I'll let my buddy know he can hunt those bucks on his property!
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: highmuley on September 30, 2016, 09:44:13 PM: Quote from: nicz on September 27, 2016, 08:07:23 PM
Back to eastern Wa then:)

Me too. The woman's hunting modern in a couple weeks and I'm doing late buck around Thanksgiving....it's always fun..just getting out there....good luck
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: fishnfur on September 30, 2016, 10:27:02 PM: Quote from: bigtex on September 26, 2016, 02:06:12 PM
There will soon be less DNR land in the area. DNR is in the process of transferring their Preston area lands to King County. Once this is done it will be county land (park) and off limits to hunting.

When DNR gifted the Vashon Island forestry acreage to King Co, the county made it a park but continued to have a shortened hunting season on that land. Perhaps the same will happen the Preston area lands.
Title: Re: Anyone is Sammamish -Issaquah with deer problems
Post by: Thefishguy77 on October 02, 2016, 10:39:04 AM: I just left Sammamish for east Lewis county. If you drive down dither hill road towards the valley you have areas that are still unincorporated king county. If you can contact one of those land owners you might score. As to private property hunting being not allowed. I believe this has more to do with the affluent neighborhoods and less with the common folk (myself). We had smash and grabs going on in our neighborhood 216th & Inglewood. The police had to be repeatedly bothered to come take a report. But when the same thing went on closer to the golf course up there they got a very fast response time. That's one of the main reasons we sold and left. That and all the crazy clear cutting.

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