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Community => Butchering, Cooking, Recipes => Topic started by: Camo Queen on September 22, 2016, 08:52:17 AM

Title: What the????
Post by: Camo Queen on September 22, 2016, 08:52:17 AM: What the heck is THIS???? :o Found it while processing my deer...

I'm really terrified to try to Google it, because that tends to lead to seeing things I cannot UN see LOL. This made my stomach turn. I still processed the deer because I'm well aware that wild game can contain parasites and such, but YUCK!!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: quadrafire on September 22, 2016, 08:54:19 AM: Man that is some nice looking red meat there. I'd just trim the affected area. Is it just the one or are there many?
From the picture it looks like a cyst??
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: bowhunterforever on September 22, 2016, 08:58:06 AM: Looks like some kind of cyst to me :dunno:
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Camo Queen on September 22, 2016, 09:03:36 AM: It's scattered all throughout the meat, although most are just the size of the smaller looking one... the big one grossed me out! Found mostly in the tenderloins and hind quarters. . . I removed the ones I could find
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: quadrafire on September 22, 2016, 09:06:01 AM: Pretty sure they're harmless, destroyed w/ cooking and freezing.
Muley or WT?
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 22, 2016, 09:20:06 AM: I am guessing its cystercerci. Tape worms in the larval state. Here is a write up on it from Idaho fish and game.

https://idfg.idaho.gov/wildlife/disease/tapeworm-cysts
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Curly on September 22, 2016, 09:30:23 AM: :puke:
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: kellama2001 on September 22, 2016, 09:56:34 AM: Quote from: carpsniperg2 on September 22, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
I am guessing its cystercerci. Tape worms in the larval state. Here is a write up on it from Idaho fish and game.

https://idfg.idaho.gov/wildlife/disease/tapeworm-cysts

Wow! :yike: Good info to have, sure sounds like that's what they are. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Camo Queen on September 22, 2016, 12:24:47 PM: Quote from: quadrafire on September 22, 2016, 09:06:01 AM
Pretty sure they're harmless, destroyed w/ cooking and freezing.
Muley or WT?

It was a muley
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: singleshot12 on September 22, 2016, 12:39:58 PM: I found those once in a blacktail. He was skinny with zero body fat. The backstraps were tough so I made salami out of the rest and survived :o
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Mark Brenckle on September 22, 2016, 12:51:39 PM: Quote from: Curly on September 22, 2016, 09:30:23 AM
:puke:

:yeah: congrats on the deer, though... :sry:
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: KFhunter on September 22, 2016, 01:01:55 PM: Did you get a good look at the lungs and liver?
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: kckrawler on September 22, 2016, 02:35:38 PM: I screwed up and Googled it :bdid:

Question I have is what is considered thorough cooking to kill the cystercerci? I hate to eat venison over medium. Should we be cooking deer and elk the same as something like bear?
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: jackmaster on September 22, 2016, 02:40:33 PM: Not only is deer meat better when cooked through but it should be treated like pork, sorry about you having to see that camo queen pretty tough to unsee those type of things.. I love Luke have a real tough time eatn that and I like deer meat more than elk meat!!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: kukusya on September 22, 2016, 02:44:01 PM: Doesn't look like tapeworm larva. More likely it is trichinosis I grew up in area when it was almost in every animal that was harvest in couple years period. To minimize chances freeze for 2-3weeks in -10F then cocker for long period till meat star falling apart. Larva covered in thick calcium composite and it hard to kill.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichin
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Curly on September 22, 2016, 03:02:16 PM: I just googled freezing and trichinosis (http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichinellosis/gen_info/faqs.html). Disappointing that they say this:
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Freezing wild game meats, unlike freezing pork products, may not effectively kill all worms because some worm species that infect wild game animals are freeze-resistant.
I like game meat cooked med rare. :o
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: trophyhunt on September 22, 2016, 03:32:54 PM: Um, yuk! I'd have a hard time eating any of it now. I'd be giving it to my dad, he'll eat anything!!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: heronblu on September 22, 2016, 07:06:50 PM: Just cut out what you can see and cook your meat well. Don't let a little parasite get in the way of you enjoying your harvest. Congrats on the deer!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: sled on September 22, 2016, 07:22:33 PM: I'd report it to see if you could get a new tag. Cook well and feed to the dogs. I'm sorry but I could not eat that.
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: trophyhunt on September 22, 2016, 07:35:43 PM: Quote from: sled on September 22, 2016, 07:22:33 PM
I'd report it to see if you could get a new tag. Cook well and feed to the dogs. I'm sorry but I could not eat that.
:yeah:
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Camo Queen on September 23, 2016, 08:08:18 AM: Welp... I did a fair amount of googling and reading up on parasites in wild game :bdid:
This site has very good information on the different parasites in deer. . .

https://www.qdma.com/10-weird-parasites-live-inside-deer/

From what I read, trichinosis is not visible to the human eye
"The parasite is microscopic, so it cannot be seen in infected meat with the naked eye. Although Trichinella infection can be prevented in pigs that are raised for pork, there are no feasible methods for reducing Trichinella infection in wild animals"

Definitely looks like tape worm larvae. . . Good news is that it's not supposed to be able to affect humans. And cooking the meat well kills it completely...

I removed everything I found, and cook my wild game well done anyhow... She's already ground and packed up... I'll be taking my chances I guess!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: Camo Queen on September 23, 2016, 08:09:27 AM: Quote from: KFhunter on September 22, 2016, 01:01:55 PM
Did you get a good look at the lungs and liver?

I didn't check out the lungs, but the liver looked fine!
Title: Re: What the????
Post by: fireweed on September 23, 2016, 08:56:29 AM: Tape worm cysts.
Have had (unfortunately) lots of experience with them. About 12 yr. ago E Wa moose that was old had lots of those in it. Contacted the state vet and sent in pictures, and that's what she said it was. Their advice--don't feed it to your dog raw because they can get tape worms from it. Cook it good and you're fine. Cube the steaks to make it easier to remove the cycts.; 2nd moose in 2009 had a few cycts that most folks wouldn't notice, then found a few in mule deer in the last few years. The meat is ok, just cook it good. Also be careful where you dump scraps to keep it away from dogs. People can't get tapeworms from eating the meat, but can get it from dogs that eat the meat.

Thank the wolves and their move into the state.