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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Bowtech7 on September 22, 2016, 06:59:36 PM

Title: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Bowtech7 on September 22, 2016, 06:59:36 PM: Okay so I'm probably over thinking it but got a new CVA accura v2 and it specifically says up to 150 grains of powder by volume....But I've been weighing powder wrong in the past by 100 grains of weight. So my question is is there an conversion chart for triple 7 ffg and pyrodex rs select to figure out how much powder by volume I should use or is equal to 100 grains of weight. I was going to weigh my powder out on a scale to have accurate measurements. Any help is appreciated
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: bobcat on September 22, 2016, 07:08:00 PM: I'm a little confused by your question but black powder is supposed to be measured by volume. You do have a powder measure, right? I suppose it doesn't hurt to weigh it after you measure out 100 grains by volume, but it's not necessary.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Blcktaildreamer on September 22, 2016, 07:09:31 PM: I think he does not have a measure and has been weighing it.

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Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: bobcat on September 22, 2016, 07:19:22 PM: I found this conversion chart:

http://www.curtrich.com/BPConversionSheet.htm
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Bowtech7 on September 22, 2016, 07:27:14 PM: I reload rifle bullets also and have been weighing a 100 grains of black powder on my rcbs scale as I would if I weighed smokeless powder and just realized today 100 grains of black powder is not 100 grains by volume. I have some plastic pre measure tubes and filled it to the 100 grain by volume line with triple 7 ffg and weighed anywhere from 77 to 84 grains of weight So my question is how much black powder should I use in grains of weight so I can measure it out on my scale. Bobcat I looked at that chart and it didn't have pyrodex select on it only p for pistol.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 07:31:14 PM: Why can't you just buy a black powder measure and do it by volume?
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Bowtech7 on September 22, 2016, 07:33:32 PM: I guess I could but I'm not sure what those look like
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 08:00:12 PM: http://www.midwayusa.com/black-powder-measures/br?cid=23205

Look through these.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 08:00:56 PM: Or better yet, shoot pellets.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 05:58:18 AM: Quote from: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 08:00:56 PM
Or better yet, shoot pellets.

Why take a step backwards?
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on September 23, 2016, 07:52:19 AM: Quote from: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 05:58:18 AM
Quote from: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 08:00:56 PM
Or better yet, shoot pellets.

Why take a step backwards?

I won't derail this thread over this nonsense. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: sled on September 23, 2016, 10:57:58 AM: I have the same rifle and found 100 gr of ffg shoots the best for me by far. Pick up a powder measure and go that route.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Bowtech7 on September 23, 2016, 11:45:11 AM: Sled that's what I'm going to do now that I have done research. Thanks for the helpful input
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 12:16:36 PM: Quote from: Timberstalker on September 23, 2016, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 05:58:18 AM
Quote from: Timberstalker on September 22, 2016, 08:00:56 PM
Or better yet, shoot pellets.

Why take a step backwards?

I won't derail this thread over this nonsense. :chuckle:

Pellets are harder to ignite. More prone to draw moisture. And can't dial a load in as well as loose powder. Sure seems like a step backwards to me. I think the o.p. has the right idea about getting a powder measure and going from there with loose powder.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: Timberstalker on September 23, 2016, 12:46:44 PM: Sure. Notice I recommended a link for the powder measures. :tup:

To the OP, best of luck getting this dialed in.

And don't stop posting because of the few jackwagons! People generally help out on this forum. :tup:
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: sled on September 23, 2016, 02:05:58 PM: Quote from: Bowtech7 on September 23, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
Sled that's what I'm going to do now that I have done research. Thanks for the helpful input
. The 290 gr Barnes ez, and the 300 Lehighs shoot almost identical for that powder charge BTW.
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: HntnFsh on September 23, 2016, 02:08:18 PM: Quote from: Timberstalker on September 23, 2016, 12:46:44 PM
Sure. Notice I recommended a link for the powder measures. :tup:

To the OP, best of luck getting this dialed in.

And don't stop posting because of the few jackwagons! People generally help out on this forum. :tup:

:sry:I misenterpreted your post! :
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: jkthomps on September 23, 2016, 02:10:01 PM: Double check my math, but this should be pretty close or possibly help you out some.

You are getting weights from 77 to 84 grains with a 100 grains by volume. Let’s average that out to 80.5 grains of volume per 100 grains in weight (77 + 84 = 161) (161/2=80.5).

80.5 / 100 = .805 grains of volume to 1 grain of weight.

100/.805 = 124.23 (rounding) grains of weight to equal 100 grains in volume (double check 124.23 * .805 = 100.005)

Definitely double check this, I did the math in 30 seconds in my head.

I personally have not had any consistently shooting pellets out of my CVA. I use Triple 7 powder at 90 grains volume with 245gr powerbelt and I am having a lot more consistency.

Good luck and keep us posted on how/what your results end up!
Title: Re: Powder Help!!!
Post by: jkthomps on September 23, 2016, 02:22:36 PM: Quote from: bobcat on September 22, 2016, 07:19:22 PM
I found this conversion chart:

http://www.curtrich.com/BPConversionSheet.htm

There you go! A little algebra from there and you will have a pretty close weight to volume idea.