Post by: mackdaddy on October 04, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on October 04, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
Anyways I bought the CVA Accura V2 NW Compliant breech plug for :yike: 319.00 Cabelas lol no box
Post by: castnblast on October 04, 2016, 09:01:41 PM
The prices keep rising on them over the years, so picking up a used one is a good option.
I'd also think about dropping the powder and bullet weight. Last year for my son's first muzzy deer hunt I dropped down to 80 grains of powder and the 245 gr Barnes spitfires for him. Less load resulted in a very manageable recoil and still had plenty of punch on his first deer.
Best of luck to you!
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 05, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
i think i paid about $350 when i bought my knight in early 2012, i had heard they'd gone up quite a bit and when i looked at their site a couple days ago, my jaw about hit the floor. makes me wish i would have bought another one(or two) when they had a big sale last year.
Post by: b.roberts on October 05, 2016, 05:39:11 AM
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Post by: Goex2Fwithroundball on October 05, 2016, 05:42:28 AM
I have been shooting a TC Hawken .54 for many years. I did not like the feel of an inline and don't get me started on the misfires. . I found that the new modern guns with their 150 grain charges kick harder than my Hawken.
I also have shoulder issues. My remedy is to wear a shooting shirt with an integrated pad. I also shoot a patched round ball bullet which provides much less recoil than sabots or conicals.
Good luck.
Post by: crowinghen on October 05, 2016, 08:35:41 AM
susie
Post by: arees on October 05, 2016, 08:59:41 AM
We have been using Pyrodex powder and RWS musket caps. This is not a viable combination with the CVA Wolf Northwest edition. If it were not for this one issue I would give it a pretty good review.
The other minor issue with it is that the ram rod is in two pieces and you have to take off the 6 inch tip part before you slide the ram rod under the barrel. That leaves you keeping the tip in your pocket. I keep thinking that they must have had another plan that I don't understand but I haven't found it yet.
Post by: MountainDevil54 on October 05, 2016, 09:03:50 AM
Post by: Smoke on October 05, 2016, 11:58:10 AM
Can't blame the sidelock for not going off. Its all user error of loading and not keeping the rifle protected during the hunt.
beg to differ.... hunted muzzy a lot back in the 70's.. CCI #11 caps, and never, never, never had a misfire or hangfire.... pulled it back into service last year to take my grandson out muzzy hunting, had to buy new caps and powder of course... now almost half my shots end up misfires, and if it does go off, half of those are hangfires.... tried 3 different brand of caps, and same problems... checked everything on the weapon, even changed the nipple... no help... it's not the gun or the operator... its the lower quality of supplies they put on the shelves now days...
Post by: lazydrifter on October 05, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Post by: mackdaddy on October 05, 2016, 04:33:09 PM
Post by: Goex2Fwithroundball on October 05, 2016, 04:40:34 PM
I'm in the same boat. Shoulder surgery last year. I shoot a TC Renegade in 54 cal. 100 grains of pyrodex and a 425 grain bullet. Very hard on my shoulder. Very heavy to carry. Been looking at the new Traditions Vortek Stryker fired NW Magnum. 50 cal. You can get either a 28 or 30 inch barrel. Nitride coated. No hammer and very quiet to cock. Hear alot of good things about the Knight Bighorn too, but I haven't seen one in stock anywhere where I can handle it. Not to fond of the double triggers on the Renegade. I haven't had any misfires with my Renegade but I went on my 1st elk hunt in 30 years last weekend and missed a 100 yard shot at a broadside 6 point bull. Forgot to set my trigger. Bull knew I was there. Started pulling the trigger and it didn't go bang like it should at the touch. I think I wound up jerking it. We couldn't find any sign of a hit and looked for 2 days. Shot my Renegade today and it is still shooting a 3 inch group at a 100 yards I've seen an aftermarket single trigger assembly for these but don't know how they work. Think it's just time to hang the Renegade up and buy a new inline.A good rule of thumb about double triggers: Never use the set trigger for hunting. Only for target shooting. I also learned this the hard way!
I always practice shooting without using the set trigger. It takes awhile getting used to the heavy trigger pull.
Post by: lazydrifter on October 05, 2016, 05:34:41 PM
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719005053/TRA+VRTK+NW+LDR+50+30+NIT+XTRA
Post by: Sabotloader on October 05, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Looking for guidance in a new in-line muzzleloader that is WA state compliant. I have shot a T/C Hawken .50 cal. for over 30 years. But after a recently shoulder surgery (new parts) I am thinking about a new unit with a recoil pad to help absorb some impact. You know that 50 with a brass butt plate has a little kick to her. I have not looked at what's offered out there in years. Any suggestions?
I am totally biased so really keep that in mind!
I would really suggest a Knight rifle to you... They are American made and they are so darn reliable!
I do not know how much you might use a ML but if you are like me using the rifle during regular rifle season and the short ML seasons I would highly suggest a Western Knight ULite. They are really light 6 lbs. with a Kevlar stock and a bedding block built into the rifle...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520Ultra-Lite%2FWesternEditionpg1.jpg&hash=6b5d9749eb6da18c503631a52546b8007627d011) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20Ultra-Lite/WesternEditionpg1.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520Ultra-Lite%2FWesternEditionpg2.jpg&hash=8bc84b83c802c11cc6becf52b8663a1ddde28676) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20Ultra-Lite/WesternEditionpg2.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520Ultra-Lite%2F50%2520Ultra-Lite.jpg&hash=a0008c0ddfe81a7d77c1f95870a87da1e9ac4794) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20Ultra-Lite/50%20Ultra-Lite.jpg.html)
The problem they are expensive but they are a lifetime rifle...
After that the DISC Extreme is a great rifle and as other people have suggested here the Bighorn is just a journeyman's muzzleloader. It just gets the job done...
This is my Knight MK-85 it is sorta the old man of the Bighorn. They look basically alike - bighorn has a longer barrel.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnightMK-85_zps3ba2ec85.jpg&hash=21ad2699b5d517bc9e2d970db6ac86df0bff35ca) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/KnightMK-85_zps3ba2ec85.jpg.html)
I would suggest this rear sight for a Bighorn
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FP1010002a.jpg&hash=a8c01d3ac26b53cfa02d856ff4d1213e112df7aa) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/P1010002a.jpg.html)
Post by: Oh Mah on October 05, 2016, 07:13:15 PM
went shooting the new cva accura v2 today had all of this happen first shot great 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 primers nothing cleaned breech in between all primers nope.the flash hole is tiny way to small i used a needle to clean it out between shots.can anyone tell me how big the flash hole is on there inline?Can't blame the sidelock for not going off. Its all user error of loading and not keeping the rifle protected during the hunt.
beg to differ.... hunted muzzy a lot back in the 70's.. CCI #11 caps, and never, never, never had a misfire or hangfire.... pulled it back into service last year to take my grandson out muzzy hunting, had to buy new caps and powder of course... now almost half my shots end up misfires, and if it does go off, half of those are hangfires.... tried 3 different brand of caps, and same problems... checked everything on the weapon, even changed the nipple... no help... it's not the gun or the operator... its the lower quality of supplies they put on the shelves now days...
Post by: predatorpro on October 05, 2016, 07:16:20 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on October 05, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
Post by: syoungs on October 05, 2016, 07:29:21 PM
If your using loose powder, use the 209 style plug, let's the order sit right at the musket cap. Also, you really gotta reef the musket cap on sometimes, I found res 1081fl's to work best in my wolf, my optima v2 will shoot anything now. (Approx 300rndd down pipe)
I really recommend the gas welding tip cleaner over a nipple pick though, probably the biggest thing to make mine function reliably
Post by: lazydrifter on October 05, 2016, 07:34:08 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on October 05, 2016, 07:51:36 PM
went shooting the new cva accura v2 today had all of this happen first shot great 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 primers nothing cleaned breech in between all primers nope.the flash hole is tiny way to small i used a needle to clean it out between shots.can anyone tell me how big the flash hole is on there inline?Can't blame the sidelock for not going off. Its all user error of loading and not keeping the rifle protected during the hunt.
beg to differ.... hunted muzzy a lot back in the 70's.. CCI #11 caps, and never, never, never had a misfire or hangfire.... pulled it back into service last year to take my grandson out muzzy hunting, had to buy new caps and powder of course... now almost half my shots end up misfires, and if it does go off, half of those are hangfires.... tried 3 different brand of caps, and same problems... checked everything on the weapon, even changed the nipple... no help... it's not the gun or the operator... its the lower quality of supplies they put on the shelves now days...
On a Lehigh/Knight breech plug the flash hole is .031/2 and the flash channel is 5/32"...
Post by: Sabotloader on October 05, 2016, 07:56:10 PM
I really like that Knight Mountaineer UL. I looked on their website last night but didn't see it listed with the western options.
Actually the best place to get one is at a local Sportsman's WHSE. If you call Knight at the 800 number ask for Garry McKelvy he can get you all the information you need... It would much more expensive from Knight because they can not undercut there retailers.
I know both Spokane and Kennewick have them in stock
http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sportsmans/Knight-Ultra-Lite-.50Cal-Western-Muzzleloader-Tan-Stainless/productDetail/Muzzleloaders/prod99999026781/cat100008
Post by: Oh Mah on October 06, 2016, 09:57:43 AM
I found that after use, my cva breech plug "broke" in. I don't know if it was just use, or the fact I clean the flash hole with a set of welding tip cleaners often, or what for sure, bit she goes bamg every time.I Just came back from shooting and i did the welder tip cleaner bit,you are right the hole looks way better to me i did not drill it out but what a difference the tip cleaner made.i guess the caps i was using was the biggest problem loading the flash hole up. thanks for this tip :tup:
If your using loose powder, use the 209 style plug, let's the order sit right at the musket cap. Also, you really gotta reef the musket cap on sometimes, I found res 1081fl's to work best in my wolf, my optima v2 will shoot anything now. (Approx 300rndd down pipe)
I really recommend the gas welding tip cleaner over a nipple pick though, probably the biggest thing to make mine function reliably
Post by: Sabotloader on October 06, 2016, 10:26:17 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on October 06, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on October 06, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
i cant tell. they are in a red top black plastic ...made in germany...maybe a symbol with an RWS
Yep RWS 1081's... they are probably the best (hottest) Musket cap available...
Post by: Twang on October 11, 2016, 11:37:58 AM
I tried a CVA and ended up replacing every crappy screw for good ones after threads spun on trigger and sight None of the metal was good. Like it was meant for interior use only, i have to keep it greased up and still I wonder how long it will shoot. Broke the front sling lug (plastic) right away
I hunt with a knight Bighorn. Added a thumbhole stock and peep, adjusted the stock trigger to my liking and can only think of one thing I would prefer
Knight fixed that with the ultralight
PS it cleans up like new. Good steal
Post by: Twang on October 11, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
I tried a CVA and ended up replacing every crappy screw for good ones after threads spun on trigger and sight None of the metal was good. Like it was meant for interior use only, i have to keep it greased up and still I wonder how long it will shoot. Broke the front sling lug (plastic) right away
I hunt with a knight Bighorn. Added a thumbhole stock and peep, adjusted the stock trigger to my liking and can only think of one thing I would prefer
Knight fixed that with the ultralight
PS it cleans up like new. Good steal
Post by: mackdaddy on October 11, 2016, 05:39:12 PM
Post by: mackdaddy on November 15, 2016, 08:52:31 AM
Post by: lazydrifter on November 15, 2016, 01:50:35 PM