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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 06:44:23 AM

Title: Rare bear meat
Post by: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 06:44:23 AM: what to do if you have consumed rare bear meat? What % chance if you consume rare bear meat do you get trichinosis?
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: dreamunelk on October 07, 2016, 07:02:03 AM: A little late. Just wait and see. Most are clean. Start getting sick or showing symptoms see your doctor and tell them what you think.
I would not worry much.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: nwwanderer on October 07, 2016, 07:11:51 AM: How rare? 137 degrees F kills it. Was if frozen near zero for a while? That kills it. Most older bears carry the nasty little nematode. Early treatment is important if present.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 07, 2016, 07:17:34 AM: I always freeze it for two weeks prior to cooking. Then cook it like pork.
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Post by: Timberstalker on October 07, 2016, 07:19:13 AM: http://www.themeateater.com/videos/steven-rinella-explains-contracted-trichinosis-episode-meateater/

Watch this. Fairly informational.

It may take a while for symptoms to show.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 07:19:45 AM: Fresh and pretty rare. I think I am going to try and get some meds cause the more I read about it the more I'm freaking out.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 07, 2016, 07:35:21 AM: Quote from: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 07:19:45 AM
Fresh and pretty rare. I think I am going to try and get some meds cause the more I read about it the more I'm freaking out.

Are you having symptoms
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: skeeter 20i on October 07, 2016, 09:35:28 AM: I would just start the conversation with your doctor now and tell him your concerns and follow his advice on what to watch for and how best to be proceed. Hope everything works out.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: Alchase on October 07, 2016, 09:55:04 AM: Have to ask, how or why did you eat rare bear meat?
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Post by: jjaba on October 07, 2016, 09:59:44 AM: I've eaten it rare toward the med-rare temp. with no problems. Don't know if I just got lucky or
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 10:18:50 AM: Quote from: jjaba on October 07, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
I've eaten it rare toward the med-rare temp. with no problems. Don't know if I just got lucky or

Your definetly making me feel better I just wish I knew what the percentage of bears in sw wa that have the bug is.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: jackelope on October 07, 2016, 11:40:37 AM: Quote
Trichinosis

Cause: Intestinal roundworm Trichinella spiralis.

Illness and treatment: Ingested larvae migrate and become encapsulated in muscle. Infection ranges from asymptomatic to severe, depending on the dose. Diarrhea may occur first. There is usually sudden onset of muscle pain, swelling of the upper eyelids, and recurring fever. Death can result from damage to heart muscle. Treatment depends on the stage of illness at diagnosis.

Sources: The infection is caused by ingesting raw or insufficiently cooked meat from infected animals. Historically, undercooked pork was a risk. Wild game is now the most likely exposure in North America. There is no person-to-person spread.

Additional risks: Freezing meat will not necessarily inactivate larvae of artic strains.

Prevention: Cook or irradiate all wild game to reliably kill larvae. Regulations to prevent trichinosis require the cooking of garbage and offal fed to swine.

Recent Washington trends: In the past decade only 2 cases have been reported. Exposures were bear and cougar meat eaten raw or undercooked.

http://www.doh.wa.gov/ForPublicHealthandHealthcareProviders/NotifiableConditions/Trichinosis
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: MP123 on October 11, 2016, 11:58:58 AM: Well, two cases in a decade doesn't sound too bad :dunno:
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 11, 2016, 12:21:52 PM: Quote from: WAPatriot on October 07, 2016, 07:19:45 AM
Fresh and pretty rare. I think I am going to try and get some meds cause the more I read about it the more I'm freaking out.

I'd flush my system with booze. That should kill all the bad ju ju in your body.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: TriggerMike on October 12, 2016, 09:19:50 AM: Quote from: Alchase on October 07, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
Have to ask, how or why did you eat rare bear meat?

:yeah:
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Post by: quadrafire on October 12, 2016, 09:20:54 AM: Would bear jerky be safe after a period of freezing prior to making jerky?
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: Alchase on October 12, 2016, 10:34:44 AM: Quote from: quadrafire on October 12, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Would bear jerky be safe after a period of freezing prior to making jerky?

Jerky is usually cooked either by heat or by brine/rub. I do not know if brine/rub (sugar or salt) would kill bacteria and the squirmies, but extended heat should?

Any Chemist or Jerkologists know?
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 12, 2016, 10:39:34 AM: I think I've heard that you would need to chill below -20 F for about two weeks to kill any parasites if you're not going to cook it. :dunno:
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: dwils233 on October 12, 2016, 10:39:58 AM: http://honest-food.net/2015/03/02/on-trichinosis-in-wild-game/

really good info about cooking, freezing and the various strains of trich in game meat and how to best treat it
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: jbeaumont21 on October 12, 2016, 12:05:31 PM: If it helps any I shot a bear a couple years ago in SW Washington and we ate it fresh on the rare side. Had no problems what so ever. Have since heard more about the tric scare and will be more careful in the future. Chances are you'll be just fine.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2016, 12:15:24 PM: Trichinosis is nothing to ignore. You can also get it eating under-cooked nutria and raccoon.

Incidentally, Jimmy Dean, known for sausage and the song Big Bad John, revolutionized the methods of raising pork and pretty much caused the eradication of trichinosis in the commercial pork industry. He's a very interesting man with a lot of vision.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: Angry Perch on October 12, 2016, 04:02:43 PM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 12, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
Trichinosis is nothing to ignore. You can also get it eating under-cooked nutria and raccoon.

Incidentally, Jimmy Dean, known for sausage the song Big Bad John, revolutionized the methods of raising pork and pretty much caused the eradication of trichinosis in the commercial pork industry. He's a very interesting man with a lot of vision.

And I thank him for that. So nice to eat medium/ medium rare pork and not worry about it.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: ghostshell on October 23, 2016, 08:39:30 AM: Quote from: Timberstalker on October 07, 2016, 07:19:13 AM
http://www.themeateater.com/videos/steven-rinella-explains-contracted-trichinosis-episode-meateater/

Watch this. Fairly informational.

It may take a while for symptoms to show.

gnarly.......have always been told not too mess with temps of bear meat but hadnt really searched it out beyond just having it beat in my head not to under cook it... enough said on that. cook that chit....... good luck to the OP.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: csaaphill on October 23, 2016, 06:33:57 PM: is he still alive then? :chuckle:
hope everything came out ok?
seriously though as one or two said you'll more likely be ok.
Title: Re: Rare bear meat
Post by: Orion81 on October 23, 2016, 07:03:50 PM: To put your mind at ease, I would call your health care provider and look into having a sample tested.