Post by: RG on October 10, 2016, 09:34:20 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 10, 2016, 09:37:55 PM
Post by: Dan-o on October 10, 2016, 09:40:52 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 10, 2016, 09:42:42 PM
Have you seen photos of wolves near White pass from Bio cams????Trail cams. Yes. Seen pictures someone took of puppies as well.
Post by: KFhunter on October 10, 2016, 10:06:07 PM
Post by: Dan-o on October 10, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
Have you seen photos of wolves near White pass from Bio cams????Trail cams. Yes. Seen pictures someone took of puppies as well.
Interesting...... thanks.
It would be interesting to get a pack acknowledged on the west side
Post by: Bango skank on October 10, 2016, 10:13:24 PM
cant get half our wolves acknowledged here, good luck. Its a big smoke job.Have you seen photos of wolves near White pass from Bio cams????Trail cams. Yes. Seen pictures someone took of puppies as well.
Interesting...... thanks.
It would be interesting to get a pack acknowledged on the west side
Post by: yakimarcher on October 11, 2016, 08:56:01 AM
Post by: TheHunt on October 11, 2016, 09:21:53 AM
Post by: Elkrunner on October 11, 2016, 09:51:00 AM
I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Did they say the collared was a grey female? I know someone that mentioned seeing one with a Black male and several pups. This person does tell the occasional "Fish tale", so I took it with a grain of salt.
In our camp, we have from anywhere form 20-25 cams out all summer and have never had one on cam.
Post by: 92xj on October 11, 2016, 10:02:34 AM
Post by: predatorpro on October 11, 2016, 10:40:52 AM
I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Had one about 50 yards from me in the cowiche not too far from short and dirty 2 years ago
Post by: emac on October 11, 2016, 11:52:00 AM
The wolves are multiplying a lot more than everyone thinks and the elk numbers have dropped significantly. Better start heading to the southwest and southeast gmus if you want to see elk. Especially archery hunters, that's when the wolf activity is the greatest and it's not worth hunting elk there and then.I wouldn't bank on the southeast corner much more. The wolf numbers are rapidly increasing there also
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Post by: yakimarcher on October 11, 2016, 01:20:44 PM
I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Did they say the collared was a grey female? I know someone that mentioned seeing one with a Black male and several pups. This person does tell the occasional "Fish tale", so I took it with a grain of salt.
In our camp, we have from anywhere form 20-25 cams out all summer and have never had one on cam.
That's the guy
Post by: bracer40 on October 11, 2016, 01:52:40 PM
He wouldn't believe me when I told him those tracks had been made by dogs running alongside the truck that was towing his kids on sleds.
Of course when he started blaming all the problems he encountered in the woods on "the no good, toothless Mexicans and Indians) it was all I could do to not laugh in his face. Not only was he a racist, but he was also missing half of his front teeth!
Post by: Elkrunner on October 12, 2016, 10:22:54 AM
I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Did they say the collared was a grey female? I know someone that mentioned seeing one with a Black male and several pups. This person does tell the occasional "Fish tale", so I took it with a grain of salt.
In our camp, we have from anywhere form 20-25 cams out all summer and have never had one on cam.
That's the guy
Was he wearing a Gilly Suit or something of that nature with fake leaves all over it?
Post by: Elkrunner on October 12, 2016, 10:24:11 AM
Also, did he call them WOOFS??I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Did they say the collared was a grey female? I know someone that mentioned seeing one with a Black male and several pups. This person does tell the occasional "Fish tale", so I took it with a grain of salt.
In our camp, we have from anywhere form 20-25 cams out all summer and have never had one on cam.
That's the guy
Was he wearing a Gilly Suit or something of that nature with fake leaves all over it?
Post by: yakimarcher on October 12, 2016, 04:47:32 PM
I know someone who saw a wolf up short and dirty in the summer of 2014 and talked to a guy up pine-grass who saw a radio collared wolf from his tree-stand on the opening day of late season 2013.
Did they say the collared was a grey female? I know someone that mentioned seeing one with a Black male and several pups. This person does tell the occasional "Fish tale", so I took it with a grain of salt.
In our camp, we have from anywhere form 20-25 cams out all summer and have never had one on cam.
That's the guy
Was he wearing a Gilly Suit or something of that nature with fake leaves all over it?
I think he did call the woofs, but I don't recall a Gilly suit.
Post by: Elkrunner on October 13, 2016, 08:54:13 AM
Post by: wonder on October 13, 2016, 11:17:14 AM
We were up in Pine-Grass during opening week of Archery Elk and we heard several packs working the area. First one did sound like wolves but the second one was definitely coyotes and I ranged one at 110 yds. :dunno:
Post by: Elkrunner on October 13, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
Question, if you still have coyotes in the area that is a good sign that wolves have not completely taken over the area right?
We were up in Pine-Grass during opening week of Archery Elk and we heard several packs working the area. First one did sound like wolves but the second one was definitely coyotes and I ranged one at 110 yds. :dunno:
I've never heard this. Im curious what peoples thoughts are on it.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 13, 2016, 12:22:40 PM
definitely not. There are still plenty of coyotes in wolf areas.Question, if you still have coyotes in the area that is a good sign that wolves have not completely taken over the area right?
We were up in Pine-Grass during opening week of Archery Elk and we heard several packs working the area. First one did sound like wolves but the second one was definitely coyotes and I ranged one at 110 yds. :dunno:
I've never heard this. Im curious what peoples thoughts are on it.
Post by: 92xj on October 13, 2016, 12:30:07 PM
Post by: Elkrunner on October 13, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
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Post by: Elkrunner on October 14, 2016, 05:54:33 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 14, 2016, 07:05:24 AM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 14, 2016, 07:30:30 AM
Sounds like I may start looking at new areas to hunt.
Remember that pic you were asking about last year? Now you know partially what he is doing.
Post by: AspenBud on October 19, 2016, 08:35:49 AM
Question, if you still have coyotes in the area that is a good sign that wolves have not completely taken over the area right?
No. Coyotes have not gained a reputation for being the ultimate survivalists by being stupid. They lived with impunity for decades, then the wolves came back and killed off the dumb and unlucky ones, and now you have the remainder that have figured things out.
Post by: acrocker on October 19, 2016, 05:59:37 PM
In the end, he told me that they had several other sightings in the general area in addition to mine. He wouldn't confirm that they were there, but did tell me that they thought there might be someone releasing 'hybrids' in the area. I'm no expert, but the animal I saw sure didn't look like any wolf/dog hybrid - it was classic wolf, and massive in size.
I'm thinking there are a lot more wolves than anybody realizes, and they are in a lot of areas that we don't even suspect yet. My concern is if WDFW doesn't get out in front of managing them, it might be too late for our deer and elk herds at some point...
Post by: wonder on October 19, 2016, 09:25:42 PM
What do you guys think is slowing them down if at all from populating the western hunting grounds where we also have large herds?
Post by: AspenBud on October 20, 2016, 12:35:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. It has been a curiosity question of mine for some time. I guess sooner or later all the Apex predators will adapt too and even out their territories. Adding in the wolf to this mix is just something that we all don't have the answers to just yet? I kind of thought it would happen faster in Washington, that is the appearance of wolves in all our normal hunting grounds similar to what's happened in all our neighboring states. Maybe it actually has?
What do you guys think is slowing them down if at all from populating the western hunting grounds where we also have large herds?
People.
There are more people in western Washington alone than in all of Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and combined. That means wolves have considerably more hazards to deal with here than they do in those wide open spaces in less populated states that they started in.
Post by: Elkrunner on October 20, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
Sounds like I may start looking at new areas to hunt.
Remember that pic you were asking about last year? Now you know partially what he is doing.
So it's not the owls????
Post by: nbk on November 07, 2016, 11:45:03 AM
Plenty of yotes living up there with the wolves in pinegrass.
Wolf track? or? Section 3 lake road approx. 1/4 mile from the "lake"
Post by: yakimarcher on November 07, 2016, 12:33:02 PM
Post by: nbk on November 07, 2016, 12:38:15 PM
I don't think that's a wolf nbk
Cat?
Post by: huntandjeep on November 07, 2016, 06:13:26 PM
I don't think that's a wolf nbk:yeah:
Post by: Sdpotter on November 07, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
Post by: Idabooner on November 08, 2016, 07:00:08 AM
This is what I believe and what I have witnessed being a wolf trapper and an Alaska resident for over forty years. Wolves are very prolific and once established cannot be managed without an aggressive predator control management system. They cannot be over hunted or over trapped. They will take young, or old, or healthy adult ungulates, it doesn't seem to matter, and sometimes come to the outskirts of our town and kill whole dog teams. When some of the pack disperses they will often travel long distances to set up new areas. This is why once established they gain great grounds in a few years. They make their living with their teeth and their prey dies a violent death. I have seen sport killing when the game is plentiful I believe to train their pups. It is my opinion, before too long, you guys in Washington will see a serious downward swing in deer and elk. Unfortunately in your state with its trapping regulations and the average urban sentiment concerning wolves and your state's politics, you have a long row to hoe.
Thanks for a good post from some body that has been there.
Post by: clockwork on November 08, 2016, 09:24:55 AM
This is what I believe and what I have witnessed being a wolf trapper and an Alaska resident for over forty years. Wolves are very prolific and once established cannot be managed without an aggressive predator control management system. They cannot be over hunted or over trapped. They will take young, or old, or healthy adult ungulates, it doesn't seem to matter, and sometimes come to the outskirts of our town and kill whole dog teams. When some of the pack disperses they will often travel long distances to set up new areas. This is why once established they gain great grounds in a few years. They make their living with their teeth and their prey dies a violent death. I have seen sport killing when the game is plentiful I believe to train their pups. It is my opinion, before too long, you guys in Washington will see a serious downward swing in deer and elk. Unfortunately in your state with its trapping regulations and the average urban sentiment concerning wolves and your state's politics, you have a long row to hoe.
If they can't be overhunted, how is it that they were once and largely still are eradicated from the lower 48?
Post by: hughjorgan on November 08, 2016, 09:39:48 AM
This is what I believe and what I have witnessed being a wolf trapper and an Alaska resident for over forty years. Wolves are very prolific and once established cannot be managed without an aggressive predator control management system. They cannot be over hunted or over trapped. They will take young, or old, or healthy adult ungulates, it doesn't seem to matter, and sometimes come to the outskirts of our town and kill whole dog teams. When some of the pack disperses they will often travel long distances to set up new areas. This is why once established they gain great grounds in a few years. They make their living with their teeth and their prey dies a violent death. I have seen sport killing when the game is plentiful I believe to train their pups. It is my opinion, before too long, you guys in Washington will see a serious downward swing in deer and elk. Unfortunately in your state with its trapping regulations and the average urban sentiment concerning wolves and your state's politics, you have a long row to hoe.
If they can't be overhunted, how is it that they were once and largely still are eradicated from the lower 48?
It's called poison!
Post by: Sdpotter on November 08, 2016, 10:22:37 AM
Post by: yakimarcher on November 08, 2016, 10:43:49 AM
I don't think that's a wolf nbk
Cat?
I'm no expert but i would say its a cougar.
Post by: millerwheeler on November 08, 2016, 05:47:59 PM
I don't think that's a wolf nbk
Cat?
I'm no expert but i would say its a cougar.
I'd say no on cougar not enough toes, large coyote I think
Post by: Elkrunner on November 09, 2016, 08:30:34 AM
Post by: jdb on November 09, 2016, 04:22:09 PM