Post by: coachcw on October 17, 2016, 06:56:02 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 17, 2016, 07:20:34 AM
Have you thought about contacting Lathrop and Sons? It's probably too late now for your Colorado trip, but it might be worth it for next year. Not sure if Karl knows those guys, but @JPhelps has a bunch of experience with them and he's up there around our size.
Post by: brocka on October 17, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
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Post by: jtw on October 17, 2016, 08:05:47 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 17, 2016, 08:10:29 AM
I would suggest lathrop and sons as well. There synergy footbeds are awesome. It's worth a call to chat with Stephen or James and just hear what they have to say.
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 17, 2016, 08:14:44 AM
I learned about them after I had a similar issue with a pair of mountaineering boots. Night and day.
Post by: coachcw on October 17, 2016, 08:40:51 AM
Post by: Reidus on October 17, 2016, 09:09:28 AM
I would suggest lathrop and sons as well. There synergy footbeds are awesome. It's worth a call to chat with Stephen or James and just hear what they have to say.
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Post by: toothfangclaw on October 17, 2016, 10:17:47 AM
Good luck!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 17, 2016, 10:37:51 AM
thanks guys , I've tried the liner socks and different lacing . maybe latrop and sons is in my future.Lathrop will get you set up for sure. In the mean time just get a roll of leukotape!
Your little bald buddy should have some you can borrow!
Post by: splitshot on October 17, 2016, 10:50:40 AM
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Post by: coachcw on October 17, 2016, 11:31:26 AM
I am not a big guy, but I have been battling the same issue for years. Its not so much that my heels would really rub on the back of the boot, but the boot heel cup would push against my heels when I was walking uphill. I recently bought a pair of Crispi boots and all of the reviews I read said they were great but the stock insoles sucked. So right away I put in "better" insoles. I used Sof Sol Athletic insoles. And from the start these boots gave me heel pain when I went up hills. I tried every combination of socks I could think of but nothing worked. Then a couple weeks ago I swapped out my Sof Sol insoles with some thinner Meindl Air Active insoles I had laying around and just like that my issue was solved. I think the thicker insole was putting my heel too high in relation to the heel cup in the back of the boot, so my heel would press/rub on the upper part of the heel cup whenever my heel was wanting to lift (ie walking uphill). I thought it was an issue with heel slip as well, when in fact it just took getting my heel to fit within the heel cup of the boot. Maybe try a thinner insole instead of thicker ones. Its a little counter intuitive if you are trying to cure heel slip, but made all the difference for me. Hope this helps. I would imagine this is something the Lathrop & Sons system would help you address.I believe this to be my issue as well when I took out the super feet it was better . maybe the tape is the answer
Post by: splitshot on October 17, 2016, 11:59:09 AM
Post by: bosshogg112 on October 17, 2016, 12:24:32 PM
I am sure it will help. when walking and u feel a blister trying to get started. stop and apply 1 or 2 layers of tape and c if it helps. try to keep unused tape dry. if u have not ever used tape before get some pre wrap and put it under the tape or just apply the tape directly 2 skin. good luck mike w
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I will add that you DO NOT put tape directly on a blister. Removing the tape hurts...
Post by: callonetta on October 17, 2016, 12:25:34 PM
This year I saved enough for them to buil me a pair of hunting boots.....no regrets, I recommend them to anyone with shoe/boot/fit issues.
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Post by: splitshot on October 17, 2016, 12:34:14 PM
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Post by: jbeaumont21 on October 17, 2016, 03:59:57 PM
I'm in the same boat as you with boot problems. This year I took 7 different pairs of boots for early ML elk season and wore a new pair each day, that way the rubbing was at least in a new spot each day. I'll say it was nice to put on a dry pair of boots each morning, but by the end of the day I think all but 1 pair were completely soaked inside and those were the Danner Crater Rims. All others either leaked or tore up my feet.
Here is what got worn: Salomon 4d gtx (Fit great but Leaked, brand new by the way), Danner High Ground (Leaked and heal rubbed), Under Armor Brown Tine (Leaked and heal rubbed), Lowa Cevedale Tech Lights (Leaked and heal rubbed bad!), Kenetrek Mountain Extreme (Leaked and toe rubbed) and last but least was the Lowa Camino (Rubbed heal and toe and leaked). As you can see that's quite a bit of money spent on trying to find a good boot. And that's not my entire arsenal...
I hope you find the right boots. Please share what they are if and when you do.
Jesse
Post by: JLS on October 17, 2016, 04:05:31 PM
Directly on the blisters and leave it. Insoles thAt are too thick can cause a lot of problems.
Post by: Bigshooter on October 17, 2016, 04:56:37 PM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 18, 2016, 08:32:35 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 18, 2016, 05:28:06 PM
For me boot break in is as much for my foot as the boot. I wear them for a week or so in every day life before going hunting in them and my feet get toughened up. Each September I have to go through the same thing. After that they are great.
Are you saying you get new boots every year?
Post by: jackelope on October 18, 2016, 05:29:20 PM
I need new boots but am scared to have to through the stuff all you guys are describing.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 18, 2016, 05:39:11 PM
No way! Just break my feet in to my boots every year. All summer I wear light hikers for training and then go to my hunting boots come sept. My feet go soft in the off seasonFor me boot break in is as much for my foot as the boot. I wear them for a week or so in every day life before going hunting in them and my feet get toughened up. Each September I have to go through the same thing. After that they are great.
Are you saying you get new boots every year?
Post by: JLS on October 18, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
I guess I should consider myself lucky. I just wear a single pair of wool socks inside my Low as with no issues. Other brands of boots I've had to use the heel lock lace technique, and it helped a great deal.
Post by: swift on October 19, 2016, 06:29:13 AM
Lowa Tebet gtx with lathrop senergy insoles and a super thin liner sock over Darn tough or Fits mid to heavy weight sock I will change outer sock about 4/5 mile point
Like you I could have built a nice rifle for what I spent to end up with this combo not to mention the pain and missed opportunity! It's a tough deal that so personal to find a system my next step was straight up going with lathrop ans sons full package
Side note I went to boots and backpack training every other training hike starting July 1 and that slowly conditioning feet ( and back for me )
Post by: coachcw on October 19, 2016, 06:56:04 AM
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on October 19, 2016, 04:40:50 PM
This combo, along with good lacing technique to lock in the heel, has worked for several people I've applied it to while hiking or hunting with them. (I don't have the blister issue, personally.)
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Post by: coachcw on October 19, 2016, 08:32:24 PM