Post by: Born2late on October 17, 2016, 06:46:02 PM
My question is: If you have that much meat what is the approximate deer weight?Or has anyone ever kept track of that when boning one out at home?
This brings up a question about bears also but i'll start a different page for that.
Post by: lokidog on October 17, 2016, 07:28:39 PM
That's a big deer! My son's weighed only 80 pounds gutted... a ice size yearling for here.
Post by: lokidog on October 17, 2016, 07:38:17 PM
I had 51 pounds of meat including heart and liver and he was 180 lb guts and all. Having given this data, I have had deer with more meat that have weighed less overall. If I recall, my ratio is usually about 1/3 meat to full body weight.
Post by: Born2late on October 17, 2016, 08:28:00 PM
Post by: smalldog on October 17, 2016, 09:05:23 PM
Post by: fishnfur on October 17, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
http://askthemeatman.com/how_to_estimate_deer_weights.htm
Post by: Damnimissed on October 17, 2016, 09:21:29 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 17, 2016, 10:26:31 PM
I wish I would've weighed my biggest bodied BT. I got 106lbs of boned out, trimmed, ready to wrap meat. It really bothers me that I never weighted it field dressed. It was a really heavy revert 2 point.
Dang, I shot a two year old cow elk once that I only got about that much out of her..... I did shoot a N. Cal. Blacktail that dressed out at 165, though I did not weight the meat back then.
Post by: robodad on October 17, 2016, 10:50:14 PM
https://goo.gl/photos/9vRTZwVHdbYDbtvR8
I guess this site doesn't open google photos so just click the link !!
Post by: lokidog on October 17, 2016, 11:30:03 PM
He is right, it is 3X the boned out weight of the deer. Absolutely no bones !
It's funny, it's the same for Dungeness crab.
Post by: JDHasty on October 18, 2016, 02:33:47 AM
Post by: lokidog on October 19, 2016, 08:59:59 AM
Post by: OutHouse on October 19, 2016, 09:17:25 AM
So my brother shot a blacktail and we had to bone it out to get it home.He took it to the butcher and he weighed it and there was 90 pounds of meat and that was after trimming on site and cutting out the blood damaged shoulder.
My question is: If you have that much meat what is the approximate deer weight?Or has anyone ever kept track of that when boning one out at home?
This brings up a question about bears also but i'll start a different page for that.
I agree with JDhasty. That deer would be in excess of 240 pounds if that was the weight of the meat alone. Why don't you send us a pic of the deer in the field. I'd like to see a pic of a deer that big.
Post by: scrapperdude on October 19, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
Post by: JDHasty on October 19, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
This one was just 110 lbs hanging.
Head, hide, hocks off
Post by: workstohunt on October 19, 2016, 02:06:01 PM
We weigh the animal gutted, no heart or liver, hide on with head. Then we weigh finished meat ready to package.
Depending on shot placement it has run 30% of the field dressed weight. Sometimes more, and a few times less on smaller animals.
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
If you get a 100 pounds of meat, you just shot a tank.
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Post by: JLS on October 19, 2016, 02:14:26 PM
If you get a 100 pounds of meat, you just shot a tank.
Agreed. I don't think I've ever boned out more than 85-90 pounds of meat off of the mule deer I've shot, and that wasn't with meat loss.
Post by: JakeLand on October 19, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
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Here's 2 blacktails
Post by: Born2late on October 19, 2016, 07:59:24 PM
The bottom one is my sons from last year and it was close to the same size.
Post by: OutHouse on October 25, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 25, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Post by: Bantams on October 26, 2016, 10:35:31 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on October 26, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
On a deer you get roughly a third of theit life weight in boned out meat. This CO buck yielded 109 pounds of boned meat. I was able to really pick him clean due to where he was so I feel I got as close to that third number as a guy can get. He was so big I had to take a pic next to him for a size comparison :chuckle:
That's a horse. How much back and hindquarter fat did he have?
Post by: 7mmfan on October 26, 2016, 10:38:50 AM
Where is Dman and his 500 pound blacktails?
If you get a 100 pounds of meat, you just shot a tank.
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I love this picture. With how much closer that doe is than the buck and how much bigger he still appears, you know that was an absolute beast.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 26, 2016, 10:43:20 AM
surprisingly not much. Low land deer, so he didn't have the crazy amount of fat like the mountain deer carry. Absolutely amazing genetics in that deer. Not only the giant body but inches of antler. He was only 4.5 yo tops too.On a deer you get roughly a third of theit life weight in boned out meat. This CO buck yielded 109 pounds of boned meat. I was able to really pick him clean due to where he was so I feel I got as close to that third number as a guy can get. He was so big I had to take a pic next to him for a size comparison :chuckle:
That's a horse. How much back and hindquarter fat did he have?
Post by: Whitpirate on October 26, 2016, 01:07:19 PM
On a deer you get roughly a third of theit life weight in boned out meat. This CO buck yielded 109 pounds of boned meat. I was able to really pick him clean due to where he was so I feel I got as close to that third number as a guy can get. He was so big I had to take a pic next to him for a size comparison :chuckle:
"Big" is relative here....
Post by: JDHasty on October 26, 2016, 03:33:29 PM
Our blacktail bucks typically hang at 110-128# and yield up to 70# boned out, packaged meat. Does yield 40-45# meat (can't remember hanging weights). Hanging weight is at the locker - skinned, gutted, no head or lower limbs.
That is more or less consistent with what we get.
Post by: euskfnm on October 26, 2016, 04:15:31 PM
Post by: Pygmy on October 27, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
I harvested this buck last Friday, seems to be a small buck, the weight of meat with bones (excluding head , Guts, skin) was 89 LBHey, great job! Very happy for you and your family!
Post by: scoutdog346 on October 27, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on October 28, 2016, 03:55:45 AM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 28, 2016, 06:33:13 AM
Im just curious as to why weigh them? Ive never weighed my deer or elk. Never really mattered to me. Just curious??I'm the same way. Only reason I weighted the meat from that deer I posted was because he was much larger than most deer body wise and I was very curious.
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Post by: nwwanderer on October 28, 2016, 07:55:43 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 09:49:56 AM
So my brother shot a blacktail and we had to bone it out to get it home.He took it to the butcher and he weighed it and there was 90 pounds of meat and that was after trimming on site and cutting out the blood damaged shoulder.Based on the best data I know, average meat yield from a Wyoming mule deer is a hair over 1/3 whole weight (whole weight is the difference between live weight, and weight lost from gunshot, which varies from negligible (bleeds out internally, small caliber spine/brain shot that doesn't sever a major vessel) to more than 10 pounds for total bleed out, multiple shots and/or large expanding bullets that can eject pounds of bone/muscle/gut). The actual figure for mule deer, without rounding, is 33.8% of whole weight, so 3x meat yield, excluding heart, liver and/or other organs, is VERY close to the average live weight.
My question is: If you have that much meat what is the approximate deer weight?Or has anyone ever kept track of that when boning one out at home?
This brings up a question about bears also but i'll start a different page for that.
90 pounds of finished meat (excluding organs) would be the average yield from a 270 pound buck. However, you will get back less than what is dropped off as boneless meat at the butcher, so a better estimate is to multiply the weight of what he gets back from the butcher x 3. My own experience with deer is that finished meat is about 80-85% of boned out pack weight, suggesting his buck is around 216-230 pounds "as he lays". Either way, a big buck! Average whole weights, approximately, range from 50-70 lbs for a fawn, 90-140 for yearling bucks and does, and 150-175 for 2+ and older bucks.
Other conversions that may be of interest:
Whole weight = 1.42 x Field-dressed weight (gutted, lower legs off)
Whole weight = 1.69 x Carcass weight (head and hide removed from field-dressed)
Boneless lean muscle = 0.48 x Field-dressed weight, 0.57 x carcass weight
These data are from hunter-harvested Wyoming mule deer, and include boneless lean from the ribs and flank which many hunters don't take, or are lost by hanging/drying or skinning errors. If you don't have those, the boneless lean conversions are 0.44 x field-dressed weight, 0.52 x carcass weight. The conversions are consistent for both does and pre-rut bucks. I don't have conversions for rutting bucks, which can range from higher yields at the start of the rut, to lower yields post-rut - especially dominant bucks.
Conversions for whitetails from PA and WI are:
Whole weight = 1.28 x Field-dressed weight (gutted, lower legs on)
Whole weight = 1.71 x Carcass weight (head, hide lower legs removed from field-dressed, minimal gunshot loss)
Boneless = 0.7 x carcass weight (all soft tissue removed from carcass, minimal gunshot loss, includes muscle, fascia, tendons, ligaments, fat and lymph nodes)
Boneless lean = .67 x boneless, 0.47 x carcass weight, 0.37 x whole weight
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 09:57:45 AM
Im just curious as to why weigh them? Ive never weighed my deer or elk. Never really mattered to me. Just curious??Other than simple curiosity, the data are useful for game departments when refereeing disputes between hunters who don't believe they got back their whole animal, and meat processors. They are also used to prosecute dishonest processors.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 28, 2016, 11:31:34 AM
What are you, a biologist or something :dunno:So my brother shot a blacktail and we had to bone it out to get it home.He took it to the butcher and he weighed it and there was 90 pounds of meat and that was after trimming on site and cutting out the blood damaged shoulder.Based on the best data I know, average meat yield from a Wyoming mule deer is a hair over 1/3 whole weight (whole weight is the difference between live weight, and weight lost from gunshot, which varies from negligible (bleeds out internally, small caliber spine/brain shot that doesn't sever a major vessel) to more than 10 pounds for total bleed out, multiple shots and/or large expanding bullets that can eject pounds of bone/muscle/gut). The actual figure for mule deer, without rounding, is 33.8% of whole weight, so 3x meat yield, excluding heart, liver and/or other organs, is VERY close to the average live weight.
My question is: If you have that much meat what is the approximate deer weight?Or has anyone ever kept track of that when boning one out at home?
This brings up a question about bears also but i'll start a different page for that.
90 pounds of finished meat (excluding organs) would be the average yield from a 270 pound buck. However, you will get back less than what is dropped off as boneless meat at the butcher, so a better estimate is to multiply the weight of what he gets back from the butcher x 3. My own experience with deer is that finished meat is about 80-85% of boned out pack weight, suggesting his buck is around 216-230 pounds "as he lays". Either way, a big buck! Average whole weights, approximately, range from 50-70 lbs for a fawn, 90-140 for yearling bucks and does, and 150-175 for 2+ and older.
Other conversions that may be of interest:
Whole weight = 1.42 x Field-dressed weight (gutted, lower legs off)
Whole weight = 1.69 x Carcass weight (head and hide removed from field-dressed)
Boneless lean muscle = 0.48 x Field-dressed weight, 0.57 x carcass weight
These data are from hunter-harvested Wyoming mule deer, and include boneless lean from the ribs and flank which many hunters don't take, or are lost by hanging/drying or skinning errors. If you don't have those, the boneless lean conversions are 0.44 x field-dressed weight, 0.52 x carcass weight. The conversions are consistent for both does and pre-rut bucks. I don't have conversions for rutting bucks, which can range from higher yields at the start of the rut, to lower yields post-rut - especially dominant bucks.
Conversions for whitetails from PA and WI are:
Whole weight = 1.28 x Field-dressed weight (gutted, lower legs on)
Whole weight = 1.71 x Carcass weight (head, hide lower legs removed from field-dressed, minimal gunshot loss)
Boneless = 0.7 x carcass weight (all soft tissue removed from carcass, minimal gunshot loss, includes muscle, fascia, tendons, ligaments, fat and lymph nodes)
Boneless lean = .67 x boneless, 0.47 x carcass weight, 0.37 x whole weight
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 28, 2016, 11:47:44 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 11:50:10 AM
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I just play one on TV 8)
Skyvalhunter, I confess I do like to geek out on numbers.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 11:58:27 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 28, 2016, 12:09:50 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 12:57:08 PM
Or you and your buddies got really hungry and decided to pig out. Or the possibility of a grizz packing away partMore legit reasons to document!
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 28, 2016, 01:00:35 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 28, 2016, 04:11:55 PM
Another bit of trivia: I hunt with a 2200 ci pack, 2200 ci will hold 84 pounds of boned out meat. That means almost any deer I kill I can bone out and fit in my pack, making one return trip out (that used to be relevant, before my health declined).Well good lord!!!!! I've had my 7200 stuffed pretty tight with elk meat a few times. Wonder what those devils weighted out at :chuckle: :bdid:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 31, 2016, 08:00:12 AM
I packed a boned out cow off a steep ridge, left the pack where my buddies could drive to it (I had a meeting I could not cancel). They weighed the pack at 136lbs :bdid:, I weighed the pack later at 7 (Kelty Tioga). If thats not the heaviest I ever did I am even dumber than I thought.Another bit of trivia: I hunt with a 2200 ci pack, 2200 ci will hold 84 pounds of boned out meat. That means almost any deer I kill I can bone out and fit in my pack, making one return trip out (that used to be relevant, before my health declined).Well good lord!!!!! I've had my 7200 stuffed pretty tight with elk meat a few times. Wonder what those devils weighted out at :chuckle: :bdid: