Post by: Lucky1 on October 26, 2016, 08:35:29 AM
All of the initiatives get a no vote.
These might be our best options.
President - Donald Trump
U.S. Congress - Jaime Herrera
Governor - Bill Bryant
Lieutenant Governor - Marty Mclenden
US Senate - Vance. Plug your nose.
Treasurer - Davidson
Auditor - Miloscia
Attorney General - Trumbull
Commissioner of Public Lands - McLaughlin
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Reykdahl
Insurance Commissioner - Schrock
Supreme Court - Zempel, Dewolf, Larson.
County Commissioner - Arne Mortenson. Dennis Weber.
I am in the 20 district . Braun, Orcutt, and Debolt.
19th district. Jim Walsh, Sue Peterson, and Jimi O Hagen
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 26, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
Post by: Lucky1 on October 26, 2016, 09:11:22 AM
Johnson is the only Presidential candidate who's never backed gun control.He also has zero chance of winning. I think we should do everything in our power to see that we don't get Clinton as our president. She will do everything she can to make sure that guns are taken away from us.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 26, 2016, 09:18:48 AM
But anything times zero (e.g., chance of winning) is zero. If it furthers hillary getting into office, a johnson vote is a vote for gun control, a less than zero result. Period.
Post by: jordanramos_79 on October 26, 2016, 09:20:44 AM
Post by: Stein on October 26, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
Clinton is up about 17 points, voting for the president is symbolic for us.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 26, 2016, 09:42:05 AM
Yeah, sorry. There is no way she has Obama 2008 or Obama 2012 margins in WA. Ain't going to happen.
Post by: Special T on October 26, 2016, 09:52:05 AM
I no longer think you can trust the information we are being given. ALL THE outlets seem to doing and saying some questionable things. I say ignore the media and go fill in your bubble for the only "Poll" that matters.:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
Clinton is up about 17 points, voting for the president is symbolic for us.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 26, 2016, 09:55:49 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on October 26, 2016, 09:56:17 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
voting for the president is symbolic for us.
Living in Washington State is a vote for cinton
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 26, 2016, 09:58:54 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
I am not voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for Trump, because I am displeased with both the GOP and Dem establishments, to which Trump is an obvious threat, and I want change, big league.
I know Obamacare is killing you. Can you afford to have hillary double down on hillarycare?
Post by: jennabug on October 26, 2016, 09:59:15 AM
Exactly my thoughts. I won't be 'scared into' voting for a bad choice.:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 26, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 26, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 26, 2016, 10:02:51 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
I am not voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for Trump, because I am displeased with both the GOP and Dem establishments, to which Trump is an obvious threat, and I want change, big league.
I know Obamacare is killing you. Can you afford to have hillary double down on hillarycare?
The news that came out yesterday regarding health insurance increases on Jan 1st up to 25% nationwide will be devastating for her. It may be enough to send her packing.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 26, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 26, 2016, 10:08:43 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 26, 2016, 10:09:20 AM
I hope so and wish you the best, despite our ideological differences. I hope you know that.
+1
Post by: CP on October 26, 2016, 10:13:45 AM
Post by: Special T on October 26, 2016, 10:20:13 AM
The language is profaine in typical Moore fashion.
Post by: Special T on October 26, 2016, 10:23:01 AM
Post by: Stein on October 26, 2016, 10:51:22 AM
:yeah: I am not a fan of Trump but he is the only legitimate threat to Hellary. A vote for any other candidate is just a waste of a vote. :twocents:
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
I am not voting for the lesser of two evils. I am voting for Trump, because I am displeased with both the GOP and Dem establishments, to which Trump is an obvious threat, and I want change, big league.
I know Obamacare is killing you. Can you afford to have hillary double down on hillarycare?
The news that came out yesterday regarding health insurance increases on Jan 1st up to 25% nationwide will be devastating for her. It may be enough to send her packing.
I don't think so, the majority of people in the exchange are subsidized and the subsidy levels are going up so they won't see a rise in what they have to pay. The people that will get slammed are the working poor that make just enough for no subsidy - ironically these are the people that the left often professes to be working hard for.
The push will be to increase the people that qualify for the subsidy and raise the subsidy (I'm from the government and we are here to help). To me, that sounds a bit like a huge handout to the insurance companies, but what do I know. There are a bunch of counties that will only have one choice in the exchange - an unregulated government sponsored monopoly. Given that the insurance company wrote Obamacare, I guess that isn't too surprising.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 26, 2016, 10:57:03 AM
Post by: Lucky1 on October 27, 2016, 11:51:27 AM
I guarantee it won't help her.I hope you are right!
Even Bill Clinton can see that it is a disaster.
I hope the people who are being buried financially by the rising costs of health care will get out and vote for Trump.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 05:54:39 AM
The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
:yeah:
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 06:03:50 AM
The news that came out yesterday regarding health insurance increases on Jan 1st up to 25% nationwide will be devastating for her. It may be enough to send her packing.
Going into the final week that news is going to tighten the electoral map for sure. If my neighboring state of Utah can hand a win to Egg McMuffin in a tight race, the evening of the 8th could get really interesting. He is now viable enough for me to weasel out of my previous plans to vote for her tHighness as IMHO McMullin would be a viable candidate at least in the House if Trump doesn't get his ass kicked as is widely expected.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 08:16:18 AM
Post by: RB on October 28, 2016, 09:03:12 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 02:09:33 PM
Speaking of not keeping ones word, which special interests were added this week to the list of handlers of Dishonest Donald, who lied about self financing his campaign?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 02:12:01 PM
There's nothing high-minded about sour grapes. And sour grapes does not get more appealing by breaking your word.
Own it.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
Oh wait, there's post history:
Maybe. I wish my guy were doing better. But if it were any one of a number of other non-disqualified candidates I would have voted for them. Even the disqualified (per my standards) candidates would only generate a third party vote on my ballot. Its saying something that Trump has pushed a lot of my ilk to either stay home (which I refuse to do on principle) or vote for our enemy.
So you should shout " vote Hillary"Pretty sure I've also wrote myriad times that I'd rather NEITHER of them be POTUS. There will likely be at least one or two decent third party choices who should be on the ballot in all 57 states. If just one can emerge that can keep either of those two clowns from amassing 270+ electoral votes then the next POTUS will be decided by the House of Representatives. I'll take my chances with the House over the dichotomy of Killary and the Poorly Educated "give me free stuff" electorates. :twocents:
No?
...
I'm a never trumper. not a billar supporter. There could yet be a third party candidate.
....
There are several Constitution loving third party candidates who will be on all if not most of the states ballots that can allow them to secure victory in the electoral college if enough cowards and poorly educated snap out of this Hitlarian trance they have fallen for. Just because my #1 priority is to see Mr. New York Values, who supports giving sexual deviants easy access to young girls, lose and lose BIG this fall, that doesn't necessarily mean that his chief rival is my candidate of choice. Ergo, I am not responsible for defending Killary or her positions. ...
Sorry
I've said it before.... I WILL NOT vote for donald.
I will write someone in.
There are always a host of third party candidates--many of whom are on the ballot in every state--and you can do what any responsible voter would do: read the voter pamphlet and pick out the candidate you think would do the best job as POTUS.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
Sorry. Not going to play your game.
You said what you said. Just because you mentioned some positive things about a third party, it does not negate what you said about voting for hillary, if Trump was the nominee, in a fit of Cruz-passion.
You said positive things about Trump, too, and that is not dispositive of your entire discourse.
The only reason you came crawling out of the woodwork, today, is because the world of reality came crashing in on you, like another FBI investigation into your crimes, 11 days before an election.
Nice try, but too little, too late. You can drown your sadz in some little Ben Shapiro over at the Daily Wire or maybe some Red State Hate.
We'll be getting down to the business of Making America Great Again, thank you very much.
Post by: Igor on October 28, 2016, 03:09:58 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 03:11:11 PM
Corey Lewandowski never touched Michelle Fields, right
Two Corinthians Trump opposed the Iraq War 100% from the beginning, right?
:hunt2:
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 03:20:02 PM
Did they ever get her arm reattached? :chuckle:
Did you ever start to think for yourself, after concluding - wrongly - based on shoddy info, that you knew what was in Trump's head? Because "yeah, I don't know, I guess," is not exactly a statement of support.
But here you are, spreading lies and misinformation, again, in a vain attempt to preserve the status quo.
If you like your swamp, you can keep your swamp.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: Igor on October 28, 2016, 03:34:49 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 03:44:07 PM
Post by: Igor on October 28, 2016, 03:49:46 PM
at least she's honest.
I just about spewed my IPA all over my computer screen on that one. You are either very, very naive or have not paying attention for the last 16 years, or so. Honest ?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 03:50:22 PM
Post by: Curly on October 28, 2016, 03:55:50 PM
Hey, I wonder if Glen Beck is going to regret endorsing HRC yet?
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 03:57:24 PM
at least she's honest.
I just about spewed my IPA all over my computer screen on that one. You are either very, very naive or have not paying attention for the last 16 years, or so. Honest ?
She's honest about her contempt for freedom. Her opposition to life, liberty, and property. Dishonest Donald took your daughter to the dance and is already grabbing other women in the ___.
Post by: Curly on October 28, 2016, 04:06:01 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
Post by: Special T on October 28, 2016, 04:33:08 PM
LOL.My understanding is that Becks position closely mirrors BC's. He endorsed some one from the constitution party.
Hey, I wonder if Glen Beck is going to regret endorsing HRC yet?
I've heard him soften some about riding everyone's ass about not standing on thier principles. Becks, Mark Levinson and a couple of others who have been hard on Trump's listening numbers have dropped hard. In general I like what b Beck has talked about and keeping politicians honest he's talked to. Not so sure his hard line absolutist attitude helps him spread his otherwise good message.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 04:36:42 PM
Beck is dead to me.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2016, 04:50:14 PM
Post by: Curly on October 28, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
I haven't heard Beck for years and from the sounds of it I'm glad I haven't. I thought he actually came out and endorsed HRC recently.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 28, 2016, 04:56:33 PM
You'd have to accept the delusion that Trump would be worse than hillary, four more years of obama, and worse, to make any sense of that, and that is aside from any personal character differences.
Pretty whacked.
Post by: Lucky1 on October 28, 2016, 05:42:19 PM
I think you gentleman are deluding yourselves that anybody in power gives a s... about your 3rd party vote.The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
:yeah:
You will have to explain how this works in very elementary terms for me to understand and believe that it makes a difference.
Post by: Igor on October 28, 2016, 06:08:53 PM
at least she's honest.
I just about spewed my IPA all over my computer screen on that one. You are either very, very naive or have not paying attention for the last 16 years, or so. Honest ?
She's honest about her contempt for freedom. Her opposition to life, liberty, and property. Dishonest Donald took your daughter to the dance and is already grabbing other women in the ___.
So you are more worried about whose ##### Dishonest Donald grabs than about what happens to our country via Supreme Court decisions over the next 20-30 years. At least you are "honest"..........whatever that's worth.
Post by: Lucky1 on October 30, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
Please get out and vote for people who will stand up for your 1st and 2nd ammendment rights. Your private property rights hang in the balance also.
All of the initiatives get a no vote.
These might be our best options.
President - Donald Trump
U.S. Congress - Jaime Herrera
Governor - Bill Bryant
Lieutenant Governor - Marty Mclenden
US Senate - Vance. Plug your nose.
Treasurer - Davidson
Auditor - Miloscia
Attorney General - Trumbull
Commissioner of Public Lands - McLaughlin
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Reykdahl
Insurance Commissioner - Schrock
Supreme Court - Zempel, Dewolf, Larson.
County Commissioner - Arne Mortenson. Dennis Weber.
I am in the 20 district . Braun, Orcutt, and Debolt.
19th district. Jim Walsh, Sue Peterson, and Jimi O Hagen
Post by: Lucky1 on November 03, 2016, 10:31:04 PM
Please get out and vote for people who will stand up for your 1st and 2nd ammendment rights. Your private property rights hang in the balance also.
All of the initiatives get a no vote.
These might be our best options.
President - Donald Trump
U.S. Congress - Jaime Herrera
Governor - Bill Bryant
Lieutenant Governor - Marty Mclenden
US Senate - Vance. Plug your nose.
Treasurer - Davidson
Auditor - Miloscia
Attorney General - Trumbull
Commissioner of Public Lands - McLaughlin
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Reykdahl
Insurance Commissioner - Schrock
Supreme Court - Zempel, Dewolf, Larson.
County Commissioner - Arne Mortenson. Dennis Weber.
I am in the 20 district . Braun, Orcutt, and Debolt.
19th district. Jim Walsh, Sue Peterson, and Jimi O Hagen
Post by: Lucky1 on November 07, 2016, 09:22:29 AM
Please get out and vote for people who will stand up for your 1st and 2nd ammendment rights. Your private property rights hang in the balance also.Bump. It's important. Find that ballot and get it sent in!
All of the initiatives get a no vote.
These might be our best options.
President - Donald Trump
U.S. Congress - Jaime Herrera
Governor - Bill Bryant
Lieutenant Governor - Marty Mclenden
US Senate - Vance. Plug your nose.
Treasurer - Davidson
Auditor - Miloscia
Attorney General - Trumbull
Commissioner of Public Lands - McLaughlin
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Reykdahl
Insurance Commissioner - Schrock
Supreme Court - Zempel, Dewolf, Larson.
County Commissioner - Arne Mortenson. Dennis Weber.
I am in the 20 district . Braun, Orcutt, and Debolt.
19th district. Jim Walsh, Sue Peterson, and Jimi O Hagen
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2016, 09:31:09 AM
I think you gentleman are deluding yourselves that anybody in power gives a s... about your 3rd party vote.The only wasted vote is one cast for a candidate in whom you don't believe. Heavy third party voting, even when not resulting in a win, sends messages to the media and the politicians that the people are displeased and want change. When we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we'll keep getting screwed by the same old two-party way of doing things and the fringe politicians that it brings us for choices.
:yeah:
You will have to explain how this works in very elementary terms for me to understand and believe that it makes a difference.
Could be. Or maybe you're deluded yourself thinking that voting the same way over and over, you can expect a different result. I'm not voting for either one of them. He'll pass laws to help himself and she'll pass laws to please her masters. I like to sleep at night. I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 07, 2016, 09:38:42 AM
I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 07, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Post by: Curly on November 07, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2016, 09:47:34 AM
I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
That's all that we should expect from one another. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2016, 09:48:55 AM
I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Both parties are subjugating us. There is no "lesser".
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 07, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
Last 16 years, with the past 8 in particular have shown one to be slightly outdoing the other.I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Both parties are subjugating us. There is no "lesser".
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 07, 2016, 09:52:50 AM
Let's hope liberty and the Constitution win tomorrow.
Post by: Lucky1 on November 07, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
You might consider the platforms of the parties and the differences in them. Although the candidates often don't always 100% support the platforms, they do agree with them. If you have not read what the parties stand for I encourage you to do so.Last 16 years, with the past 8 in particular have shown one to be slightly outdoing the other.I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Both parties are subjugating us. There is no "lesser".
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2016, 10:01:26 AM
We invaded Iraq on lies and threw a whole region into chaos, just to sell tanks and planes. I don't care what the platforms of the two parties say. The true platforms are that "We promise to continue starting wars to support our masters and abet corruption at all levels of our government." This craphole needs to be completely filled in, not just one side of it. You guys know how I feel. No sense going over and over it. Thanks for the civil discussion. :tup:Last 16 years, with the past 8 in particular have shown one to be slightly outdoing the other.I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Both parties are subjugating us. There is no "lesser".
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 07, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 07, 2016, 10:03:25 AM
:tup:You might consider the platforms of the parties and the differences in them. Although the candidates often don't always 100% support the platforms, they do agree with them. If you have not read what the parties stand for I encourage you to do so.Last 16 years, with the past 8 in particular have shown one to be slightly outdoing the other.I was a lesser of two evils, block the more freedom hating platform party voter.I voted for someone in whom I believe is a good man and an American who believes in liberty.
So did we.
Both parties are subjugating us. There is no "lesser".
That's why I went straight ticket. The platforms of the fed and state parties and how they match issues is what I did. If I was really into the other party's platform, I'd move to Europe or Canada (or Venezuela :yike:).
Post by: Curly on November 07, 2016, 10:05:40 AM
Post by: Lucky1 on November 07, 2016, 04:29:10 PM
Please get out and vote for people who will stand up for your 1st and 2nd ammendment rights. Your private property rights hang in the balance also.
All of the initiatives get a no vote.
These might be our best options.
President - Donald Trump
U.S. Congress - Jaime Herrera
Governor - Bill Bryant
Lieutenant Governor - Marty Mclenden
US Senate - Vance. Plug your nose.
Treasurer - Davidson
Auditor - Miloscia
Attorney General - Trumbull
Commissioner of Public Lands - McLaughlin
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Reykdahl
Insurance Commissioner - Schrock
Supreme Court - Zempel, Dewolf, Larson.
County Commissioner - Arne Mortenson. Dennis Weber.
I am in the 20 district . Braun, Orcutt, and Debolt.
19th district. Jim Walsh, Sue Peterson, and Jimi O Hagen