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Title: How long is too long to hang?
Post by: mtnwkr on October 29, 2016, 11:36:12 AM: I got my buck down on Monday the 17th, field dressed and had it to the butchers within two hours. I'm busy moving so I didn't have time to deal with it. I was told a week and half to get it back because I'm getting summer sausage and jerky. I stopped in today because because it's been 13 days and they said they were just getting ready to skin and butcher it! 13 days seems like a long time.. Should I be concerned?
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Post by: Curly on October 29, 2016, 11:40:24 AM: No need for concern. It's good to hang meat for a while, it makes the steaks more tender.
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Post by: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 11:41:46 AM: It depends how cold they have had it. I'd be a bit POed if it had not been frozen though.
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Post by: HUNTaHOLIC5 on October 29, 2016, 11:51:57 AM: Definitely not to long to hang (depending on temp of course).
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Post by: kisfish on October 29, 2016, 11:53:24 AM: No need for concern
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Post by: Curly on October 29, 2016, 11:57:02 AM: I guess longer than 10 days is not recommended (but is probably still fine). Here is a quote from an article:

"How Long Should Deer Meat Age?

As I already mentioned, prime aged beef might hang as long as several weeks. Deer, however, don’t need to hang this long. The length of time you need to age your venison depends on the age, sex, and size of the animal.

A young doe might need to age for only three to five days, while a large, older buck might need to age for eight to ten days. Aging deer meat for longer than ten days isn’t recommended.

The deer meat should be aged at a constant temperature, between 38 and 40 degrees."

https://skyaboveus.com/hunting-shooting/Tips-for-Processing-and-Aging-Deer-Meat
Title: Re: How long is too long to hang?
Post by: jrebel on October 29, 2016, 12:03:12 PM: It wasn't skinned??? YIKES....I have never heard of a butcher taken a deer with hide on and putting it in their meat locker. My meat locker is a no hair, no gut, no funk zone....PERIOD!! I don't like to hang my deer for much over 7 days and my elk for 10-14 days max. Not sure I would use that butcher again.....my opinion. :tup:
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Post by: Curly on October 29, 2016, 12:26:23 PM: I missed seeing that it still had the hide on. Wow. I always like to get the hide off ASAP.
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Post by: Angry Perch on October 29, 2016, 01:06:45 PM: Agree. I thought no hide, no hoofs, no hair was the standard for any shop. However, if they got it cold quick, which it sounds like you did, I'd guess it's fine.
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Post by: gavinboone on October 29, 2016, 01:53:20 PM: I would be concerned that it still had the hide on it. If the hide were off and hanging in a cooler, no concern. The hide should have came off right away. I would not be bringing meat back to that butcher.
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Post by: Sakko300wsm on October 29, 2016, 08:05:16 PM: Gross!
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Post by: h2ofowlr on October 29, 2016, 08:54:57 PM: If hanging between 34-36F they can hang for a while. If in the 50's or warmer you will start getting mold after 3-4 days.
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Post by: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 09:22:08 PM: We used to hang whitetails for up to a couple of weeks with the hide on, however it was because they were frozen solid....
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Post by: muzzlebuck on October 29, 2016, 10:23:09 PM: Quote from: jrebel on October 29, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
It wasn't skinned??? YIKES....I have never heard of a butcher taken a deer with hide on and putting it in their meat locker.

:yeah: I thought that was standard practice. :puke:
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Post by: JODakota on October 29, 2016, 10:24:24 PM: Quote from: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
We used to hang whitetails for up to a couple of weeks with the hide on, however it was because they were frozen solid....

That's how we did it. But that was in ND
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Post by: huntingfool7 on October 29, 2016, 10:25:48 PM: When it stinks, it's been too long.
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Post by: lokidog on October 29, 2016, 10:35:15 PM: Quote from: huntingfool7 on October 29, 2016, 10:25:48 PM
When it stinks, it's been too long.

That's when you hope they give you someone else's meat..... :puke: :chuckle:
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on October 29, 2016, 10:37:56 PM: In my younger days I spent some winters camping and trapping and hunting on Afognak Is. north of Kodiak. I would regularly hang deer with hide on for two weeks and sometimes longer. Temps were usually in the 20s-30s with an occasional warmer day. The hide kept the meat clean, and free from rain which could sour it and also kept birds from pecking at it. Also, once the meat froze, if you had a warmer day, the hide helped keep the meat cold. After I got a deer, I'd gut it making the smallest cut possible to get the guts and lungs/heart/liver out, then hang it head up so any excess blood drained out. Then would use it as needed only skinning what I needed at the main camp. Would start with one hind quarter, then the other.and finally the ribs, backstrap and front quarters. The neck was last. I always hung deer at least a quarter mile from camp and across a large salt water lagoon so as not to draw brownies into the camping area. Usually they'd den up by December, but once in a while there would be a late bear wandering around. I'd hang them up 20 feet or more but a couple times I still lost part of a deer to the bears. Never had a problem with bad meat tho. The longer it hung, the more tender it was.
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Post by: wapiti hunter2 on October 29, 2016, 11:22:56 PM: Quote from: jrebel on October 29, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
It wasn't skinned??? YIKES....I have never heard of a butcher taken a deer with hide on and putting it in their meat locker. My meat locker is a no hair, no gut, no funk zone....PERIOD!! I don't like to hang my deer for much over 7 days and my elk for 10-14 days max. Not sure I would use that butcher again.....my opinion. :tup:

Exactly. If it wasn't skinned, I'm guessing you will have major meat loss.
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Post by: kentrek on October 30, 2016, 12:21:14 AM: Prolly depends on the cooler temp but what's worse about having the hide on is every one else's animals that comes into contact with it.....never known anyone to leave the hide on once it's hanging in a cooler

I'm sure it's fine but wouldn't be going back there
Title: Re: How long is too long to hang?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2016, 07:49:58 AM: Quote from: Curly on October 29, 2016, 11:40:24 AM
No need for concern. It's good to hang meat for a while, it makes the steaks more tender.
:yeah: If it's dry and cold, you can age red meat for months. The longer it ages, the more must be trimmed. But during the hang, enzymes work to break down sinew. A delmonico steak (NY) which has aged for 3-6 months can be easily cut with a fork and has a wonderful flavor. Most butchers won't hang it for that long because they have too much game coming in. Consider yourself lucky.
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Post by: jagermiester on October 31, 2016, 05:50:12 AM: what is the name of your butcher?
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Post by: jackelope on October 31, 2016, 08:56:23 AM: We used to hang whitetails back east with the hides on them with no issues, but again, it was cold as heck.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 31, 2016, 09:01:17 AM: How cold is HECK?
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Post by: jackelope on October 31, 2016, 09:03:16 AM: Cold. Really cold.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 31, 2016, 09:05:06 AM: cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey?
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Post by: Bill W on October 31, 2016, 10:13:38 AM: If the hide's left on to age the meat then there's no need to trim the outside of the meat off (because it dried).
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Post by: Smoke on October 31, 2016, 03:02:51 PM: as long as the temp in the hanging cooler was below 40, it will be fiine.... most butchers prefer it skinned first to prevent shed hair. mites, ticks, ect, from contaminating other meats in the cooler, but it's not necessary if it's hung in such a way as to protect if from other stuff in the cooler... in fact with the hide still on it, the outer meat won't dry out, and you lose less from the need to trim it off....
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Post by: elkboy on October 31, 2016, 03:27:05 PM: Last November, I had a large, very "rutty" Idaho whitetail hanging in the garage (between 35 and 40 degrees at that time of year). 8 days of hanging was enough to create a very mild flavor and make the meat absolutely tender. I personally think of 7-8 days as a long time to hang a deer, but some folks I know hang it for up to three weeks if the temperature is close to zero.
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Post by: C-Money on November 02, 2016, 10:18:40 AM: We let them hang with the hide on in Pennsylvania for a few days...less than 5, if it was very cold. Frozen solid by morning cold. PA butchers take deer with the hide on, but they have a handful of skinners working on the deer pile before they go in the cooler. Since I have lived in WA, I skin my deer ASAP, and process it with in a day or two. If the OPs deer was frozen, it should be fine...I hope!