Post by: Shannon on October 30, 2016, 08:19:27 PM
If anyone has a number for an MDF bio that has worked in this area I'd love to get there number. The local Fish and Game Bio's didn't return any of my calls all summer and fall so I'm looking to talk to anyone that is knowledgable. I didn't really think the Fish and Game Bio's for the area would be much help but I was hoping they could recommend someone who would be. I'm not looking for any help just looking for advice so what I'm planting will take and is what I should be planting. This will be a long process and I want to get it right and maybe have even better habitat than what we had previously. Thanks for any leads in advance.
Post by: zwickeyman on October 30, 2016, 08:35:52 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 30, 2016, 08:37:27 PM
DAN MCKINLEY
Regional Director
Cell: 509-995-0819
dan@MuleDeer.org
He goes by "MuleDeer" on this forum.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=20662
Post by: safehunter on October 30, 2016, 08:58:18 PM
Post by: Shannon on October 30, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
I'll try that Derby Canyon Natives source. He isn't one that has been recommended yet. Appreciate it.
Post by: WARHORSE on October 30, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
This was from my bio buddy hear in omak. Hope it helps. Also let me know when you plan on planting i wouldy love to help. Iam a diehard muledeer hunter and due to the numbers this year i think iam only going to chase whitetail. The worst i have ever seen it in the okanogan.
Post by: Shannon on October 30, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 30, 2016, 10:27:44 PM
Post by: Shannon on October 31, 2016, 12:02:48 PM
Thanks again.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 31, 2016, 12:29:55 PM
Thanks guys. Ted at Derby Canyon was a good source. He had bitter brush and sage both available so that is good. Round 2 of planting will be coming soon. I emailed Dan also so thanks again for the contact info. If anyone has a good read on how to rehab your property for mule deer I'd be interested in reading that also.Just saw this, you got some solid advice. Ted at DCN and the folks at BFI are really excellent resources. Feel free to PM me, I can provide a few tips with a little more information about your property - what was there preburn, what is there now, aspect, steep and rocky, or deep soil, any water or moist soils?
Thanks again.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 31, 2016, 12:42:57 PM
I sent you a PM as well.
Post by: Shannon on November 02, 2016, 06:45:31 PM
Post by: Bango skank on November 02, 2016, 07:03:18 PM
Buckbrush is Ceanothus, DCN has three species, depending on your site characteristics one or more would be appropriate. Do you typically have snow cover all winter, or does it melt off multiple times through the winter?
I sent you a PM as well.
Man ive been wanting to plant ceanothus on my property. Do they sell starts to anybody, or how on that?
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 03, 2016, 03:36:46 PM
Yes, to anybodyBuckbrush is Ceanothus, DCN has three species, depending on your site characteristics one or more would be appropriate. Do you typically have snow cover all winter, or does it melt off multiple times through the winter?
I sent you a PM as well.
Man ive been wanting to plant ceanothus on my property. Do they sell starts to anybody, or how on that?
Post by: cougforester on November 03, 2016, 04:09:25 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 03, 2016, 04:42:59 PM
Another thing I've heard that can be beneficial for deer is prune the apical meristem of sage brush. This encourages lateral, rather than vertical, growth, in turn creating more browse that deer can reach as well as increasing security cover. Can anyone comment on this at all?I rarely see eastern WA mule deer feeding on sagebrush, though they use it extensively for cover and pruning would hasten lateral spreading. There have been bitterbrush pruning projects in Chelan County to promote exactly the outcome you describe. I have planted cedars for browse, fenced out to protect them as seedlings; the intent was to allow them to establish without browsing pressure, then top them at 6' height for lateral growth to promote available browse for blacktails.
Post by: cougforester on November 03, 2016, 04:55:41 PM
Another thing I've heard that can be beneficial for deer is prune the apical meristem of sage brush. This encourages lateral, rather than vertical, growth, in turn creating more browse that deer can reach as well as increasing security cover. Can anyone comment on this at all?I rarely see eastern WA mule deer feeding on sagebrush, though they use it extensively for cover and pruning would hasten lateral spreading. There have been bitterbrush pruning projects in Chelan County to promote exactly the outcome you describe. I have planted cedars for browse, fenced out to protect them as seedlings; the intent was to allow them to establish without browsing pressure, then top them at 6' height for lateral growth to promote available browse for blacktails.
Sorry, bitter brush is what I meant. Whoopsy. Good to hear that's been done before though
Post by: Shannon on November 06, 2016, 01:36:45 PM
Post by: Claymore15 on November 06, 2016, 02:07:40 PM
Post by: MADMAX on November 07, 2016, 06:32:35 AM
reminds me of weyerhaeuser in the 80s when they used to give out tree damage maps to concentrate your hunting areas for elk
great idea on the seeds BTW