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Title: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 01, 2016, 08:43:15 AM
Looking to snag a set of chains to keep in my Tacoma for both late archery as well as just to have when out snowshoeing and camping over the winter.
Has anyone had any experience with the diamond pattern quick fit les schwab chains?
Or are there any others I should be looking at in that general price range.
Been watching craigslist but might just snag a new set as I know sometimes the tensioners (the rubber sections) can dry out.
What about the traditional ladder vs the diamond patterns?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Special T on November 01, 2016, 08:44:42 AM
Depending on the size of Tire you can get them online reasonable. Here on the west side you can buy the tensioner or chains at 6 roblees
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 01, 2016, 08:59:30 AM
I've been poking around online a bit
running 265/75/16s
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: SkookumHntr on November 01, 2016, 09:19:05 AM
Those les schwab diamond pattern chains are pretty easy to put on and work good! That's what I have, and same size tire.. :twocents:
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Tapp Daddy on November 01, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
I've run nothing but the quick-fit ones from Schwab on my rigs for 15 or so years.  Depends on your use though.  I wouldn't be thrashing around the steep and deep too hard with them, but for the occasional on-road/logging road stuff, they'll be fine.  Easy on/off too.  Just get familiar with them once or twice in your driveway first where it's warm and dry.  That'll save you a few choice words when it's dark and wet on the side of the road somewhere.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: JDHasty on November 01, 2016, 09:41:01 AM
The best used to be Weed V-bar chains.  I think they still are.  Chain tighteners are a must
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: huntnphool on November 01, 2016, 09:52:33 AM
 It really matters where you are driving. If you plan to hit Swakane or Entiat with snow on the ground, the V-Bar's are the only thing I'd go with. Seems every year we see someone going off the edge with inadequate gear......be safe.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: JDHasty on November 01, 2016, 09:55:17 AM
It really matters where you are driving. If you plan to hit Swakane or Entiat with snow on the ground, the V-Bar's are the only thing I'd go with. Seems every year we see someone going off the edge with inadequate gear......be safe.

It is what my dad sold in Montana and it is the only chain I use. 
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 01, 2016, 09:57:58 AM
mostly be used on logging/fs roads..
i basically have come down to either the quick fit diamonds or a set of ladder style v bar with cam tensioners.
thanks for the input everyone!
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Special T on November 01, 2016, 10:02:18 AM
There is a "local" company Quality chain out of Oregon Hillsboro I think. Not sure that the passenger stuff is made here or not or if you can order from them...
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 01, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
The best used to be Weed V-bar chains.  I think they still are.  Chain tighteners are a must

In deer camp this year the question came up about this style chain. Are they legal on wa paved roads?  :dunno:  Searched WASDOT site didn't find an answer.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Special T on November 01, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
The best used to be Weed V-bar chains.  I think they still are.  Chain tighteners are a must

In deer camp this year the question came up about this style chain. Are they legal on wa paved roads?  :dunno:  Searched WASDOT site didn't find an answer.
First off you should not run ANY kind of chain unless there is snow or ice on the road. It is bad for the vehicle road and chains. Good tires and caution do more for the drive than burly chains. I've run cables on my 2wd dodge  and rarely even needed those on the road.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 01, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
The best used to be Weed V-bar chains.  I think they still are.  Chain tighteners are a must

In deer camp this year the question came up about this style chain. Are they legal on wa paved roads?  :dunno:  Searched WASDOT site didn't find an answer.
First off you should not run ANY kind of chain unless there is snow or ice on the road. It is bad for the vehicle road and chains. Good tires and caution do more for the drive than burly chains. I've run cables on my 2wd dodge  and rarely even needed those on the road.
i think they meant if there is snow and ice on paved roads are they allowed to be used as opposed to only on dirt roads with snow/ice.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: logger on November 01, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
I just cut down our old log truck chains to fit the pickups, then you never have to worry about them breaking
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Special T on November 01, 2016, 02:47:31 PM
I just cut down our old log truck chains to fit the pickups, then you never have to worry about them breaking
I find that mostly works well for 33" and larger and 12" wide tires. 
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: AWS on November 01, 2016, 03:03:32 PM
I pick up lost commercial chains and make them up for my van.  There are lots of them along the free way after the  snow melts.  Cheap and about a tough as they get.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: scottcrb on November 01, 2016, 03:04:20 PM
Was thinking about this too for my toyota this late season. I don't generally need them around town but up.in the umtanum it would be nice to have. My tires are 31x10.5 15
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: thinkingman on November 01, 2016, 03:51:39 PM
You probably won't have clearance on the front suspension for chains.
Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Dan-o on November 01, 2016, 04:07:24 PM
The Schwab chains are convenient but when the going gets tough nothing grips like those V-bars that Hasty posted.   They are awesome.   
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: scottcrb on November 01, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
You probably won't have clearance on the front suspension for chains.
Ask me how I know.
My truck has a small lift I don't see how chains wouldn't fit even stock.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: castnblast on November 01, 2016, 05:09:04 PM
I found out the hard way that my 2013 F-150 doesn't have enough room between the inside of the wheel and the control arm to run chains bigger than the S-class (3.8 mm) diamond pattern quick fits...and those are close to rubbing. There was plenty of room in the wheel wells and fenders just not on the top inside for the front tires.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: jackelope on November 01, 2016, 05:21:46 PM
I used those easy fit or quick fit Les Schwab chains on my Jeep last year in Idaho. First time I've ever put a chain on a vehicle in my life. Quick and easy. I also thought they worked great, but for what it's worth, I have nothing to compare them to.

Side note... I've got a set of tire chains that fit my wife's 2001 Nissan Xterra sitting in my garage that someone can have if they want them. I don't recall what size tire was on it and it is long gone now. I think they were P255/65R16's but I'm not positive. I don't have the bag they came in or anything to tell me what size they are and I don't know if there's a way to measure them. I have the chains and the rubber tensioner things, whatever they're called. They are heavier than the quick fits, more like real tire chains. I don't know what they'd be called. They look like a ladder. They're free to a good home if someone wants to come and get them from me at work in Bellevue.
Sorry... I'm a tire chain idiot. They were illegal where I grew up and have never used them till last year.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 01, 2016, 05:23:30 PM
The best used to be Weed V-bar chains.  I think they still are.  Chain tighteners are a must

In deer camp this year the question came up about this style chain. Are they legal on wa paved roads?  :dunno:  Searched WASDOT site didn't find an answer.
First off you should not run ANY kind of chain unless there is snow or ice on the road. It is bad for the vehicle road and chains. Good tires and caution do more for the drive than burly chains. I've run cables on my 2wd dodge  and rarely even needed those on the road.
i think they meant if there is snow and ice on paved roads are they allowed to be used as opposed to only on dirt roads with snow/ice.

Yes that's the question. If you need chains on a FWD on paved roads it's either a hell of a snow storm and plowing is behind, or it solid ice.  :twocents:

I have only ran chains twice in my life and both was this year.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 01, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
Was thinking about this too for my toyota this late season. I don't generally need them around town but up.in the umtanum it would be nice to have. My tires are 31x10.5 15
that's where i will be.
if you see a white 06 tacoma in a ditch, stop and give me a hand  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Brushbuster on November 01, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
I've done a lot of research trying to determine if I could find chains I could get for the front for my 2013 taco with no luck. The problem is the UC arm (I believe it's called). If you reach around the inside of the top of the tire I only have about an inch of clearance on the sidewall which is not enough. I do have chains for the back tires but have never needed them yet. Not sure if this would be the same issue for your 06 though.   

Good luck on your hunt. Be sure to take a shovel & tow chain/rope.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: 300rum on November 02, 2016, 05:10:40 AM
As mentioned here, the inside of the tire is where you need to pay particular attention, the front is usually the worst.  This thread reminded me (and pushed me over the edge) to ordering a set of V-Bars yesterday (tirechains.com) for the back of my pickup ('09 GMC 3/4 ton).  I have a full set of LS tire chains that have very small links, have had them for quite a few years now but never used them.  The plan is to have the V-bars for the back, just in case and use the light duty chains for the fronts and times where I need to do a lot of turning, etc.

My suggestion, make them put your truck on the lift and put the chains on before you buy them.  Pay particular attention to the fronts when the wheel is full cranked.  Before I bought my chains from LS I called their corporate office and talked to one of their "chain experts".  He was the one that made the suggestion of making them put them on and also said that if they gave me a hard time, just tell them that "so-and-so from corporate" told me to.  They didn't grumble.  I went to another tire shop to look at their chains and they tried to get out of lifting it to put them on.

As said, I ordered the V-bars yesterday and they are supposed to be here this Friday before I take of for Montana next weekend.  I'll put them on once I get back from an Elk hunt that I am leaving for this a.m. and will update update.       
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: DRobnsn on November 02, 2016, 09:48:41 AM
I've done a lot of research trying to determine if I could find chains I could get for the front for my 2013 taco with no luck. The problem is the UC arm (I believe it's called). If you reach around the inside of the top of the tire I only have about an inch of clearance on the sidewall which is not enough. I do have chains for the back tires but have never needed them yet. Not sure if this would be the same issue for your 06 though.   

Good luck on your hunt. Be sure to take a shovel & tow chain/rope.

 :yeah: Check out google for pics of the Tacoma's upper control arm and tire relation. Not much room at all with a normal wheel offset.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 08, 2016, 11:07:59 AM
My Ram 1500 has about 1/4" of clearance up front  :yike: I Got some high quality spacers to put on for any hunts I may need front chains.
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 08, 2016, 11:26:17 AM
Tire Chain Supply - I got two sets of V-Bar chains for my Grand Cherokee for 160.00 delivered.
http://www.tirechainsupply.com/truck-chains.html
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 08, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Tire Chain Supply - I got two sets of V-Bar chains for my Grand Cherokee for 160.00 delivered.
http://www.tirechainsupply.com/truck-chains.html

Those are good prices   :tup:
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: blackpowderhunter on November 08, 2016, 07:02:23 PM
Tire Chain Supply - I got two sets of V-Bar chains for my Grand Cherokee for 160.00 delivered.
http://www.tirechainsupply.com/truck-chains.html
what size did you order for and did you manage free shipping?!
shipping for 2 sets from them looks to run about 40 bucks
Title: Re: Snow Chains
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 08, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
Tire Chain Supply - I got two sets of V-Bar chains for my Grand Cherokee for 160.00 delivered.
http://www.tirechainsupply.com/truck-chains.html
what size did you order for and did you manage free shipping?!
shipping for 2 sets from them looks to run about 40 bucks

Even at $40.00 it comes in under $136.00 I spent on a pair this fall.  :tup:
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