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Title: .270 160 gr
Post by: jdb on November 01, 2016, 07:38:26 PM
So I don't have a back up big game rifle, but I have encore, so I'm going to buy a .270 barrel, and I'm thinking about shooting 160 gr partitions. Any input??
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: 724wd on November 01, 2016, 08:37:14 PM
why so heavy?  140's shoot REALLY good out of a .270.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 01, 2016, 08:43:47 PM
My .270 loves the blue box of federals 140 gr. Knocked down deer and elk no problem.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: bobcat on November 01, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
The 160 grain Partitions will do great. It's just like using 180's in the 30/06. The only reason I might be reluctant to try them in the Encore, is that recoil might be a little too much.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: yakimarcher on November 01, 2016, 08:53:45 PM
Most .270 barrels don't have enough twist for a 160.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: jrebel on November 01, 2016, 08:54:08 PM
My .270 loves the 150 partitions.  I would imagine 160s would work fine also if you can get the rifle to shoot them.  Any of the 140 /150 /160 partitions would be devastating on any game in North America out a .270.  good luck and if you get the 160s to work...make sure to post your recipe. 
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: NRA4LIFE on November 01, 2016, 09:22:47 PM
What Yakimarcher said.  A little much for a .270.  I have never reloaded past 150.  I prefer 130 for deer.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: theleo on November 02, 2016, 07:39:16 AM
I wouldn't go heavier than 150 grains, there's just no real good reason to unless you're just trying to slow it down for brush hunting.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Bob33 on November 02, 2016, 07:47:45 AM
The 160 grain Partitions will do great. It's just like using 180's in the 30/06. The only reason I might be reluctant to try them in the Encore, is that recoil might be a little too much.
To be more precise, a 160 grain out of a 270 is closer to a 200 grain out of a 30 caliber (.308). Using sectional density as the standard, the equivalent bullet weight to a 180 grain in 30 caliber would be a 145 grain in .277.

I would personally choose something lighter than 160 in a 270, but if it shoots well it should work fine.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2016, 08:05:36 AM
The 160 grain Partitions will do great. It's just like using 180's in the 30/06. The only reason I might be reluctant to try them in the Encore, is that recoil might be a little too much.
To be more precise, a 160 grain out of a 270 is closer to a 200 grain out of a 30 caliber (.308). Using sectional density as the standard, the equivalent bullet weight to a 180 grain in 30 caliber would be a 145 grain in .277.

I would personally choose something lighter than 160 in a 270, but if it shoots well it should work fine.

Yeah, I just meant it's like using the heaviest that's generally available. Bullet weight isn't really that critical. I say use whatever you have confidence in. It could also be said that there's no need to use 130 grain bullets, or 150 grain, just use 140 grain. It's really just personal preference along with finding a bullet that shoots good groups in a particular rifle.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: jdb on November 02, 2016, 08:22:48 AM
I have a semi custom model 700 in .270 as my primary hunting rifle. I shoot 130 grain accubonds out of it, my idea here is I stick with the .270 to simplify life in terms of on hand components i.e. I already have 100's of brass. But I want something ballistically dissimilar. This would primarily be a truck gun/back up gun. I thought that with there long heavy profile they'd penetrate like no tomorrow.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Bob33 on November 02, 2016, 08:30:11 AM
Bullet choices and weights will be debated forever, as long as campfires exist.

The use of "heavy for caliber" bullets like a 160 grain in .277 caliber made a lot of sense in the days when bullets did hold together well. Most big game bullets today are designed to retain more weight: some as high as 100%. This allows the use of lighter bullets that can still penetrate, if that is your preference. Some hunters prefer bullets that enter, quickly expand, and expend all their energy inside the animal.

The adage that slow, heavy bullets "bust brush" better than lighter, faster bullets has been disproven.

Pick the bullet you like, shoot it enough at targets to understand its trajectory and accuracy limitations, and go hunting.

Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Firedogg on November 02, 2016, 11:16:27 AM
 If you are thinking more penetration look to bullet construction, not weight. The Barnes TSX/TTSX gives great penetration along with full mushrooming and weight retention.
  Modern design bullets are doing some interesting things for our old calibers changing the way we used to think about them.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: theleo on November 02, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
A 160 Partition will penetrate like crazy but no more than a 130 grain TTSX or a 150 grain A-frame.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
A 160 Partition will penetrate like crazy but no more than a 130 grain TTSX or a 150 grain A-frame.

That's true but it might make a bigger hole.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Bigshooter on November 02, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 02, 2016, 12:01:29 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Say wha?  You mean to tell me 10 grains bullet weight difference isntthe end of the world?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Bigshooter on November 02, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Say wha?  You mean to tell me 10 grains bullet weight difference isntthe end of the world?  :chuckle:

I know it's hard for some on here to believe but it's true.  8)
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: theleo on November 02, 2016, 12:39:52 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Don't use solid logic to derail the conversation, it's about which one kills them deader.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: BULLBLASTER on November 02, 2016, 12:42:34 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Don't use solid logic to derail the conversation, it's about which one kills them deader.
The proper term is "more deader better" I do believe.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: Curly on November 02, 2016, 12:46:29 PM
If you do try the 160gr, look into trying some Reloader 26 powder.  I hear guys are getting unreal velocity with that powder and heavy bullets in the .270 Win.

150 gr, 24" barrel, R26.........over 3,000 fps. link (http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?page=/reloaders/powderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=40&cartridge=63)
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: jackelope on November 02, 2016, 03:34:25 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Don't use solid logic to derail the conversation, it's about which one kills them deader.
The proper term is "more deader better" I do believe.

This is the more accurater way to explain it.
Title: Re: .270 160 gr
Post by: theleo on November 02, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
130, 140, 150, 160, all kill deer and elk.
Don't use solid logic to derail the conversation, it's about which one kills them deader.
The proper term is "more deader better" I do believe.
If you're going to get technical I believe it's "deadest de bestest".
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