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Other Activities => Trapping => Topic started by: huntingfool7 on December 01, 2016, 05:46:03 PM
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Newly licensed and one Bailey trap to my name. Trap set on the other side of the dam break in just enough water for a three day check.
Trap was sprung but it hung up on the wire on one side. Just educated a flat tail.
Think he'll come back? I remade the set.
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Are you sure it was a beaver ? Fur in cage or sighn ? But beaver do learn quick so if it was you might want to try a castor set or move it else where
Time to get a few swim through cages and make some run sets
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:yike: dang been there before but I forgot the safety :chuckle: :chuckle: :bash: :bash: :chuckle: :chuckle: :bdid:
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Are you sure it was a beaver ? Fur in cage or sighn ? But beaver do learn quick so if it was you might want to try a castor set or move it else where
Time to get a few swim through cages and make some run sets
Trap was pulled up onto the dam for the first two photos.
Third photo down shows the set. It's a dam break set with the trap in the deeper water on the upstream side.
There's a small channel between the bank and the log in the photo. That log is stuck into the dam.
The bailey is set between the dam and that log in about two feet of water. Trap is on a incline so the trigger is 4-6'' under the surface.
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I'm pretty new to trapping my self but I have had fish and muskrat set off my beaver traps. I've also had some mystery triggers. Personally I would re-set and leave it there another check or two. One thing I've been trying out is making a caster mound and adding some caster but no set. Then when I see the beaver has worked the caster mound I will re do the caster and add my set. My theory is that the beaver will be less weary the 2nd time he has the same intruder. Hasn't worked yet but I think that's due to my trap placement because the Beavers just keep working the set every time but some how getting around my sets
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That is common with that trap. That is why I sold mine 30 years ago and I hear the same problem is still with this trap. Time to throw that trap away and get something different. I've been using Hancock traps for 30+ years. Sure I would reset the trap that Beaver will be through again.
JC. :hello:
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I have a couple Baileys. Been sitting in the shed for years. Seemed to be sprung and empty every time I ever looked at them. Finally gave up on them. I thought about selling them but I hate to give that problems to somebody else.
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I think Bear Hunter has figured out a pretty good modification for these Bailey traps....maybe he will share his tips :dunno:
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I have a couple Baileys. Been sitting in the shed for years. Seemed to be sprung and empty every time I ever looked at them. Finally gave up on them. I thought about selling them but I hate to give that problems to somebody else.
Holy smokes those baileys are like 375.00$!!! That's outrageous
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I don't think that I stuck the dog through the wire. Think a beaver coming in from the side might do that? Maybe Bigfoot pushing the wire as the doors try to come up?
Will check it in the morning. Short line…I have some 12x12 Comstocks landing this weekend to add a few swim throughs.
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James, I remember selling you those Bailey traps. They can catch beaver and they're not quite as bad as people think.
Just keep tryin! You'll get em soon :tup:
Persistence pays off. If you know they're there, keep improving your sets each time (making sure your dog and trigger aren't blocking that chain link :chuckle:)
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@Kit Carson No worries KC 8) It's a cool trap and I'm up for the challenge.
I will be posting video of the miss when I get back in town. Pulled the card.
He swims right over the trap to inspect the dam break. Then he dives to get some patch material…BAM one side gives him a light toss LOL.
But wait … :chuckle: He came back and was waiting for me today! Oh yeah! Sorry to see, no video of the catch.
Tail is 5-1/4 wide by 12''. Guessing 40ish pounds?
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Congrats
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Good catch!
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Nice job man :tup:
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good work !
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Woot woot. Way to stick with it :tup:
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Nice looks like a xlarge ! Whoop ! Save those castor glands !!! - wear rubber gloves though - those things stink !!!!!
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Personally I love the smell of castor
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Newly licensed and one Bailey trap to my name. Trap set on the other side of the dam break in just enough water for a three day check.
Trap was sprung but it hung up on the wire on one side. Just educated a flat tail.
I likely have trail cam footage of the close call but didn't pull the SD card tonight.
Think he'll come back? I remade the set.
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You from Puyallup? Where abouts? I have a ton of raccoons you can catch.
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OK, here's the video. Looks like he comes in just to the left of the trigger. When he turns and dives, he's maybe eight inches to the right.
Not a valid vimeo URL
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Awesome. Nice catch! :tup:
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Personally I love the smell of castor
:yeah: I do too.
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:chuckle: nice video. I almost put one out today but forgot the sd card.
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Both Comstocks connected. Another large beaver and a muskrat in this mornings check. The first beaver went 46 lbs 12 ozs. I think this one may hit 50.
Caught the beaver in a dam slide set. Reset that one and set a similar slide below the bigger dam downstream. Hoping for an otter there.
Muskrat was caught in a little side channel off of the main pond.
If you catch two large beavers, should the rest of them be smaller 1 and 2 year olds?
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Usually two adults(40-60lbs) two 1-2 year Olds(20-30lbs) and 2 kits is a typical colony it seems but around my area seems its only pairs of 2 year Olds here and there. Small streams make the adults kick the young out to find there own area is the best I can tell from my game cam footage
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Both Comstocks connected. Another large beaver and a muskrat in this mornings check. The first beaver went 46 lbs 12 ozs. I think this one may hit 50.
Caught the beaver in a dam slide set. Reset that one and set a similar slide below the bigger dam downstream. Hoping for an otter there.
Muskrat was caught in a little side channel off of the main pond.
If you catch two large beavers, should the rest of them be smaller 1 and 2 year olds?
I don't know. I caught two one 60 plus pounders and the other 55. Both males but there are many channels and ponds in area. Lots of dens but the other area I trap. The first week i caught 3 a big male and female. The last one was a 24lb er but I know there is another big one there. Plus I seen 4 otters fishing in a pond down the road.
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:tup: congrats on the beaver and rat. Keep it up
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How do you tell the boys from the girls? Their plumbing looks the same to me.
The second one was exactly 1 pound heavier than the last. Came in at 47 lbs 12 ozs. Does that mean I should move on to another pond or should I try to clear them out so a new batch can move in?
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I would catch one more
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It depends where im trapping...if i trapping a pound ill only catch a couple and stop if im trapping the columbia or a lake thats connected to multiple different lakes the i trap but butt off in there
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How do you tell the boys from the girls? Their plumbing looks the same to me.
On the outside it does but not on the inside
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Surprised by a 55 lb 14 oz beaver this morning and another muskrat. So far that makes three weighing over 46 pounds pulled out of this pond.
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A lot of big ones being caught this year. Nice! :tup:
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Been striking out on beaver this last week. I've added a couple muskrats to the pile.
The ponds didn't have any ice on them three days ago. This mornings check revealed ice thick enough that I'll need to chop to get the traps pulled. I could stand on it without breaking through.
Will hike back in with an axe tonight and free the trap with a muskrat.
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Right on ! My otter and beaver cages haven't been producing since it completely frozen over
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The freeze up can be frustrating but it can also be a blessing. Harder for thieves to find traps and with practice it can show you the beaver runs. The ice will always be thinner where the beaver are running. If the ice is 4"+ than you can walk on it. Use a rock bar or ice pick to tap the ice as you walk. When you reach the runs you will hear the difference and the pick may even bust threw. Don't walk over the runs as they can be much thinner. Also if your ice is clear enough you can see the bubble trails. Also I've learned the hard way that you should chop a much bigger hole than your trap is so not to hit your trap with the hatchet/ pick. :bash: good luck and be safe
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:tup: at least you caught some rats. It's have been crazy this season. I haven't caught one yet.
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-Here's todays catch. You can see the trap located in the channel below the dam. This is the spot that produced the 56 pounder about a week ago and this one is close to the same size.
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Where's the close up ! :tup:
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Both Comstocks connected. Another large beaver and a muskrat in this mornings check. The first beaver went 46 lbs 12 ozs. I think this one may hit 50.
Caught the beaver in a dam slide set. Reset that one and set a similar slide below the bigger dam downstream. Hoping for an otter there.
Muskrat was caught in a little side channel off of the main pond.
If you catch two large beavers, should the rest of them be smaller 1 and 2 year olds?
:dunno: So you forgot the camera? I need fur porn asap. Lol
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Nice catch. You going to save be some castor. Hint Hint
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Congrats bud!
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The freeze up can be frustrating but it can also be a blessing. Harder for thieves to find traps and with practice it can show you the beaver runs. The ice will always be thinner where the beaver are running. If the ice is 4"+ than you can walk on it. Use a rock bar or ice pick to tap the ice as you walk. When you reach the runs you will hear the difference and the pick may even bust threw. Don't walk over the runs as they can be much thinner. Also if your ice is clear enough you can see the bubble trails. Also I've learned the hard way that you should chop a much bigger hole than your trap is so not to hit your trap with the hatchet/ pick. :bash: good luck and be safe
I honestly feel that under ice trapping is far easier, but then again, I grew up doing it in the Midwest.
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:tup: at least you caught some rats. It's have been crazy this season. I haven't caught one yet.
:yeah:
It's been unusually slow on the muskrat this year for me. This new area I'm trapping should be producing rats big time, but haven't got one in that spot. :dunno:
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It's kind of a weird spot below that dam. There is a thick layer of silt on the bottom that moves. If I set the Comstocks with the doors on the bottom, the silt will bind the trap in three days. Setting doors on top and raking the silt out when doing checks keeps them operating.
There's another very small dam between this spot and the river. It has a nice channel with a very defined edge running up to it from the river. May move a trap down there but worry about the river rising after the thaw. I think the ice is already loosening up. Shot a nice mallard while doing trap checks and should have had 2 or 3 more. I don't believe that was open water three days ago.
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Nice work! :tup:
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Nice work Huntinfool
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Where's the close up ! :tup:
closer up :)
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Free piggy back rides!
52 lbs 4 oz
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:tup:
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Free piggy back rides!
nice bull pac
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Awesome back pack looks like my partners satchel :chuckle:
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Awesome back pack looks like my partners satchel :chuckle:
Your partner should have that checked by a qualified nurse. :yike: (Sorry :chuckle: it was just floating out there)
52 lbs 4 oz
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I have not been trapping close to the house. Maybe why my catches have been running large.
Here are the weights so far...mostly so I can find them easier...
46 lbs 12 oz
47 lbs 12 oz
55 lbs 14 oz
52 lbs 4 oz
50 lbs 11 oz
40 lbs 6 oz
38 lbs 14 oz = 5,321 oz = 47 lb 8 oz Avg.
----------------- Location change
20 lbs 2 oz
41 lbs 6 oz
I may tan these and make a blanket.
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Great job!!! Thanks for sharing the photos!!
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I've decided that jump shooting ducks goes well with trapping beaver. What's not to like? Fur, feathers, dogs, and hardware.
Hope you all are having at least half as much fun!
50 lbs 11 oz
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Ppiggy back rides to the top! Line starts here!
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I have been avoiding trapping next to the house. Buuuuttttt there is a perfect spot for my newly modified Bailey right there. Part of the lodge narrows the landing down so it just fits the trap. The water is just the right depth, and adding one lonely guide stick just above the water will put 'em right over the trigger.
Top photo shows the trap location. Pup is sitting at a new castor mound.
Second photo taken from the top of the lodge. You can just barely make out the trap in the nook.
Third photo highlights Bailey location (blue), trigger and guide stick (white).
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Wow. Those are big beavers. I've only two this year that are in that ballpark.
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Way to go James your bagging alot of fur and duck. :tup:
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good catch!
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Nice job James. Congrats
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Nice job James. Congrats
@Redi Thank you for showing me the ropes and taking my out on your line last year. I think I learned a lot from you that day.
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You are welcome. We had a great day. You are doing well. Keep it up.
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Nice! :tup:
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Due to rising waters, I pulled the line yesterday. Glad I did. The river has jumped from 640 ft/second to 3,540 ft/second. I had two comstocks at risk and I got them out along with my smallest beaver to date.
Here he is weighing in at a trim 40 lbs 6 ozs.
I threw an extra loop around the tail to keep him from shifting around on the trail out.
I believe I'm leaving some heavies behind. Will be watching the river and the USGS river flow reports so I'll have a better feel next year.
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I'm sure crossing the creek at my beaver sets tonight will be lots of fun been raining hard here all day long!
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@Norman89 Be safe out there. A hundred dollar trap is not worth drowning over.
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Mostly worried about the lake. It has been falling out fast and yesterday there was sand bars and that I could see that you normally can't so the lake was about 2 feet low yesterday I'm sure it will be significantly more full today but I will be safe we always use the buddy system
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Very pleased to connect on a forty pound (38 lbs 14 oz) flattail with the modified Bailey trap. This Bailey was set next to the lodge with one guide stick dipped in Backbreaker.
I had a trail camera set up at another location. I noticed that a guide stick placed a couple inches high and parallel to the water surface worked well for guiding over the trigger area. When the trap springs, the guide stick is pushed out of the way.
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Right on!
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:tup: sweet the bailey did it again. :tup: