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Title: Hunting in a blind
Post by: jtrammell on December 06, 2016, 06:46:38 PM
For those that hunt in a blind, do any of y'all dig a hole inside of the blind to where you stand and and draw back?
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: h20hunter on December 06, 2016, 07:06:46 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Jburke on December 06, 2016, 07:14:45 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
:yeah:
This is the most comfortable way to do it.  Get yourself a good stool of some sort an practice.  You could shoot from kneeling, but it's not very comfortable to kneel for long periods of time.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: jtrammell on December 06, 2016, 07:19:51 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
:yeah:
This is the most comfortable way to do it.  Get yourself a good stool of some sort an practice.  You could shoot from kneeling, but it's not very comfortable to kneel for long periods of time.

Sitting and drawing back is more comfortable than standing?
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Russ McDonald on December 06, 2016, 07:23:04 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
:yeah:
This is the most comfortable way to do it.  Get yourself a good stool of some sort an practice.  You could shoot from kneeling, but it's not very comfortable to kneel for long periods of time.

Sitting and drawing back is more comfortable than standing?
Yes.  There are some very tall blinds out there but I shoot sitting.  I have a swiveling chair.  Make sure it is quiet put bar soap on it the stop any noise.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Jburke on December 06, 2016, 07:30:56 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
:yeah:
This is the most comfortable way to do it.  Get yourself a good stool of some sort an practice.  You could shoot from kneeling, but it's not very comfortable to kneel for long periods of time.

Sitting and drawing back is more comfortable than standing?
If we're talking about potentially being in a blind for very long then I'd say yes. 
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 06, 2016, 07:47:10 PM
Yep just sit. Much less noise that way. Grab the bow and draw and shoot. Movement creates noise and noise is bad. I ahoot sitting from my treestands also.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: rtspring on December 06, 2016, 08:10:49 PM
I tried it this last year and would have been successful had I been in the blind when I was suppose to be in there. 

I hated the fact I could only see in front of me.  I practiced alot shooting out of it on a stool, felt very weird at furst but after a while I was confident I could kill sitting down. 
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: UptheCreek on December 07, 2016, 09:17:41 AM
Killed my first buck out of a blind this year and at least in my experience, there is no way you would want to dig down deep enough to stand in.  Sitting in a blind is plenty comfortable and while it gets frustrating at times with only having a small window to shoot from, it does have its benefits.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: AlbinoRhino on December 07, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
So I'm switching to archery deer next year after a lifetime of Hunting deer with a rifle.. I'd have to hunt on public land any tips to using a ground blind on public land? Is it completely necessary or would i be better of getting a stand or still hunting... this would be for blacktail
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: blindluck on December 07, 2016, 12:05:50 PM
You will make many mistakes hunting from a ground blind, believe  me.set up at home practice shooting making sure your arrow clears the window. Bow hangers can make your blind creek and spook the animal. A good chair will make a world of difference when sitting 10- 14 hours a day.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: huntingbaldguy on December 07, 2016, 12:32:46 PM
Buy a swivel chair. Cabelas sells one of the more comfortable ones for a really good price on sale.  It's got a mesh back and swivels really quietly.

Sadly mine got stolen last year alone with my blind.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 07, 2016, 01:06:51 PM
Are these chairs light weight so a person can pack them in a ways if a persons blind is not near a road?
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: lamrith on December 07, 2016, 01:20:37 PM
Sit and draw. You need to practice it and make sure you have room.
:yeah:
This is the most comfortable way to do it.  Get yourself a good stool of some sort an practice.  You could shoot from kneeling, but it's not very comfortable to kneel for long periods of time.
Pants with kneepads do wonders.  I have Core4's with kneepads and can't imagine archery hunting without them.  No worries about needing to kneel down in a hurry and taking rocks/sticks in the kneecap.

As far as blinds go, I do not know of many if any that someone could stand up in and shoot a bow.  Everything I have ever seen with regards to archery from a blind has had the person sitting on a stool or seat of some sort.  Draw can be seated or kneeling, shooters choice..  To shoot standing you would probably have to dig a good 2ft deep hole at least..  The stool I have I got from sportco, weighs maybe a pound?  just a simple 3 or 4 leg stool
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: 724wd on December 07, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
shoot sitting, for sure.  I hunt in a Barronett blind, which is pretty darn tall, but unless you're shooting down hill, i don't think the windows are tall enough for a standing 6' person to shoot out of. 

I did shot the blind this year, first day, first deer to come in.   :bash:  one of the crossing X bars was JUST in the way, I guess.  :dunno: :bash:  deer was dumb enough to come back after the kerfuffle, but I miffed the second shot, too.  got rattled after hitting the blind and was paying more attention to the rod than the deer.   :rolleyes:

Most chairs suitable for a long day in the blind will be fairly heavy, especially if you're also packing the blind, your pack, your bow... for public land, don't over look creating a natural blind with available materials.  I shot my first archery deer sitting on a lightweight stool in a brush pile over a trail.  I'd pick the spot carefully with good cover in front, AND a backdrop of brush or trees so you're less likely to get silhouetted. 
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: OutHouse on December 07, 2016, 01:49:17 PM
For those that hunt in a blind, do any of y'all dig a hole inside of the blind to where you stand and and draw back?

I considered digging the hole as you suggest but realized it would be difficult to have space for other things like backpack, chair etc... I think sitting is the best method but I do it a little different than those who do the swivel chair thing. I put two chairs in the blind. One has the seat back against the zip-up door. The other chair is exactly opposite of the first in the other corner. I keep all the windows closed that are behind the chairs, but I keep most of the rest of the windows open. Most people say you'll be seen by the deer with all the windows, but I dress dark with face paint and have had up to 12 deer around me and they have no clue. I get all the brush off the ground so if the deer are not in one shooting lane, then I can slip over to the other chair and have a new shooting lane and not make any noise. Of course, you have to time your transition to the other chair just right, but I have done this numerous times when deer are within 50 yards and they did not hear or see me. The nice thing about the two chair system is that you aren't stuck right in the middle of the blind as happens with a swivel chair. In my experience sitting in the middle of the blind is the easiest way to be seen by a deer.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: theleo on December 07, 2016, 03:04:13 PM
Shoot from the sitting position. If you're using a natural blind and have your back to a tree, offset yourself so your bow shoulder is against the middle of the tree. Shooting at a target on the same level as you is pretty easy, but if the target is uphill and on your release side it's really awkward.   
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: huntingbaldguy on December 07, 2016, 03:31:32 PM
Are these chairs light weight so a person can pack them in a ways if a persons blind is not near a road?

The cabelas ones are about 12 lbs i think.  Not light light, but not that heavy either.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: JDHasty on December 07, 2016, 05:37:17 PM
You will make many mistakes hunting from a ground blind, believe  me.set up at home practice shooting making sure your arrow clears the window. Bow hangers can make your blind creek and spook the animal. A good chair will make a world of difference when sitting 10- 14 hours a day.

The Cabela's most expensive blind chair is what you want.  It has adjustable leg length and others don't and it is quiet.  It was on sale last time I looked. 
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: JDHasty on December 07, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Buy a swivel chair. Cabelas sells one of the more comfortable ones for a really good price on sale.  It's got a mesh back and swivels really quietly.

Sadly mine got stolen last year alone with my blind.

On sale right now

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Comfort-Max-Mag-Elite-Blind-Chair/1933468.uts?searchPath=%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FcategoryId%3D734095080%26CQ_search%3Dblind%2Bchair%26CQ_st%3Db
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Seabass on December 07, 2016, 06:54:38 PM
For those that hunt in a blind, do any of y'all dig a hole inside of the blind to where you stand and and draw back?

I considered digging the hole as you suggest but realized it would be difficult to have space for other things like backpack, chair etc... I think sitting is the best method but I do it a little different than those who do the swivel chair thing. I put two chairs in the blind. One has the seat back against the zip-up door. The other chair is exactly opposite of the first in the other corner. I keep all the windows closed that are behind the chairs, but I keep most of the rest of the windows open. Most people say you'll be seen by the deer with all the windows, but I dress dark with face paint and have had up to 12 deer around me and they have no clue. I get all the brush off the ground so if the deer are not in one shooting lane, then I can slip over to the other chair and have a new shooting lane and not make any noise. Of course, you have to time your transition to the other chair just right, but I have done this numerous times when deer are within 50 yards and they did not hear or see me. The nice thing about the two chair system is that you aren't stuck right in the middle of the blind as happens with a swivel chair. In my experience sitting in the middle of the blind is the easiest way to be seen by a deer.

Yeah....that sounds way easier than 1 swivel chair.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: huntingbaldguy on December 08, 2016, 07:51:41 AM
We've always been in all camo and worn face masks/neck gaiters.  Last year we had a lot of deer inside 10 yards.  Our shooting distance was 20.  We had a few long stares if we made noise but they went right back to browsing after.  I think in solid dark clothing they can pick out your silhouette better than something that breaks it up, but if it works it works and to each their own.

One thing you should consider is chair size.  We had trouble sometimes in a 2 man blind with 2 chairs.  It's just not big enough.  If you went with a 3 man and 2 chairs, i think it would be more reasonable.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: JDHasty on December 08, 2016, 08:11:21 AM
We've always been in all camo and worn face masks/neck gaiters.  Last year we had a lot of deer inside 10 yards.  Our shooting distance was 20.  We had a few long stares if we made noise but they went right back to browsing after.  I think in solid dark clothing they can pick out your silhouette better than something that breaks it up, but if it works it works and to each their own.

One thing you should consider is chair size.  We had trouble sometimes in a 2 man blind with 2 chairs.  It's just not big enough.  If you went with a 3 man and 2 chairs, i think it would be more reasonable.

I have found that if you don't move at all as they are approaching that they will settle down and then will let me get away with murder.   If you move or do anything to tip them off while they are coming in... game over.  I have clapped my hands, waved my hands around, brought my binocular up and down and done everything but tap dance while I had wary older does or bucks I was going to let walk within twenty yards of me, but only after I was absolutely still as they came in and for a couple minutes while they got settled. 

Camouflage definitely. 

No way two swivel chairs will work well in a two man blind.   
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: UptheCreek on December 08, 2016, 08:45:40 AM
Not sure how big the blinds that you guys are using to have two chairs in but the ones I have used seem to barely have enough room for a chair and my gear in.  Another idea is to set up your blind a week or two early to allow the deer to get used to the smell and look of something a little different in their part of the woods.  Brush it in good and you should have no problem hunting out of it. 
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: huntingbaldguy on December 08, 2016, 08:51:00 AM
We've always been in all camo and worn face masks/neck gaiters.  Last year we had a lot of deer inside 10 yards.  Our shooting distance was 20.  We had a few long stares if we made noise but they went right back to browsing after.  I think in solid dark clothing they can pick out your silhouette better than something that breaks it up, but if it works it works and to each their own.

One thing you should consider is chair size.  We had trouble sometimes in a 2 man blind with 2 chairs.  It's just not big enough.  If you went with a 3 man and 2 chairs, i think it would be more reasonable.

I have found that if you don't move at all as they are approaching that they will settle down and then will let me get away with murder.   If you move or do anything to tip them off while they are coming in... game over.  I have clapped my hands, waved my hands around, brought my binocular up and down and done everything but tap dance while I had wary older does or bucks I was going to let walk within twenty yards of me, but only after I was absolutely still as they came inn and for a couple minutes while they got settled. 

Camouflage definitely. 

No way two swivel chairs will work well in a two man blind.   

I've noticed that too lol.  We had a brother and sister pair that would come in last year and eat our bait for a long time.  We called it a day one afternoon around the time shooting light was up and we just wanted to wait til the deer left.  So we waited.... and waited.... and waited...  45 mins later we said screw it, getting cold, lets just go they'll be back anyways.  We packed our stuff up while watching them.  They just stood there between bites and watched.  Unzipped the blind... still stood there.  Walked around the front to take the trail out.  Stood there and watched.  It was funny.

So definitely don't think they have no clue you're there.  They know.  They already judged you as a non threat and went about their day.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: JDHasty on December 08, 2016, 09:32:20 AM
We've always been in all camo and worn face masks/neck gaiters.  Last year we had a lot of deer inside 10 yards.  Our shooting distance was 20.  We had a few long stares if we made noise but they went right back to browsing after.  I think in solid dark clothing they can pick out your silhouette better than something that breaks it up, but if it works it works and to each their own.

One thing you should consider is chair size.  We had trouble sometimes in a 2 man blind with 2 chairs.  It's just not big enough.  If you went with a 3 man and 2 chairs, i think it would be more reasonable.

I have found that if you don't move at all as they are approaching that they will settle down and then will let me get away with murder.   If you move or do anything to tip them off while they are coming in... game over.  I have clapped my hands, waved my hands around, brought my binocular up and down and done everything but tap dance while I had wary older does or bucks I was going to let walk within twenty yards of me, but only after I was absolutely still as they came inn and for a couple minutes while they got settled. 

Camouflage definitely. 

No way two swivel chairs will work well in a two man blind.   

I've noticed that too lol.  We had a brother and sister pair that would come in last year and eat our bait for a long time.  We called it a day one afternoon around the time shooting light was up and we just wanted to wait til the deer left.  So we waited.... and waited.... and waited...  45 mins later we said screw it, getting cold, lets just go they'll be back anyways.  We packed our stuff up while watching them.  They just stood there between bites and watched.  Unzipped the blind... still stood there.  Walked around the front to take the trail out.  Stood there and watched.  It was funny.

So definitely don't think they have no clue you're there.  They know.  They already judged you as a non threat and went about their day.

That seems to be how it works. 

And make no mistake, big old does can be as nervous as big old bucks and I have let them feed all around me without disturbing them as they approached and then once I would rather they vamoose and tried to run them off they didn't think I was a threat.  But then if they were coming in a day or two later and I picked up my binocular to have a better look at my customer, the very same deer would, if they saw the movement, stomp, snort and switch ends faster than it takes me to say Rumpelstiltskin.   
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: 724wd on December 08, 2016, 10:25:40 AM
No way two swivel chairs will work well in a two man blind.   

you need a bigger blind!  The bigger barronett blinds are plenty big for two swivel chairs, and if one of my kids is tagging along, we have another folding chair they use.  with 3 it's a HAIR tight, but still plenty of room.
Title: Re: Hunting in a blind
Post by: Russ McDonald on December 08, 2016, 10:51:58 AM
No way two swivel chairs will work well in a two man blind.   

you need a bigger blind!  The bigger barronett blinds are plenty big for two swivel chairs, and if one of my kids is tagging along, we have another folding chair they use.  with 3 it's a HAIR tight, but still plenty of room.
I have a Big Mike's 2 chairs super easy I would say 3 would be tight but doable. Primos xl and xxl Club blinds are big to but come with a big price tag.  Big Mike's are anywhere from $159 to $200 the Primos ones are $250 plus. 
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