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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: Band on December 12, 2016, 10:06:01 PM

Title: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Band on December 12, 2016, 10:06:01 PM: I have learned the art of turning nocks to get my arrows all flying in the same place while broadhead tuning but I don't really like having arrows where the cock vane isn't in the same place as the rest of the arrows. So, as I get ready to glue vanes on a set of bare shafts is there a procedure for figuring out the optimal location of the vanes to avoid this problem? I'm guessing shooting bare shafts won't give me any information to work with so is vane location simply a guessing game?
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Reidus on December 12, 2016, 11:08:15 PM: Spine test your arrows and align the cock vane with the stiff side of the arrow. Should help. Southshore archery does this on every arrow they fletch. What arrows are you shooting?
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Reidus on December 12, 2016, 11:14:31 PM: http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2013/10/step-step-boost-accuracy-your-diy-spine-tester
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Band on December 13, 2016, 11:51:05 AM: Thanks. I've never heard of such a contraption but I can see how that would help. I have 3 different types of arrows I'll be replacing vanes on. As I've damaged vanes by hitting them with points of other arrows during target practice over time I set them aside and am planning to replace the vanes on all of them in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 13, 2016, 12:01:36 PM: Fletch all the vanes the same color.
I've also heard of floating your arrow shafts in a bathtub. heavy side (stiffest side if you will) ends up on bottom.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 13, 2016, 04:51:13 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on December 13, 2016, 12:01:36 PM
Fletch all the vanes the same color.
I've also heard of floating your arrow shafts in a bathtub. heavy side (stiffest side if you will) ends up on bottom.
:yeah: just go with all the same color
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: JBar on December 13, 2016, 05:58:12 PM: 4 fletch 75* × 105* :tup:
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Band on December 13, 2016, 09:59:17 PM: How do you guys with the same color vanes quickly figure out which way to load your arrow when you need to in the heat of the moment?
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 14, 2016, 03:55:50 PM: Quote from: Band on December 13, 2016, 09:59:17 PM
How do you guys with the same color vanes quickly figure out which way to load your arrow when you need to in the heat of the moment?
You gotta look down regardless so vane up, and the nock squared up to the string is the same regardless of color
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 14, 2016, 04:39:01 PM: Quote from: BLRman on December 14, 2016, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: Band on December 13, 2016, 09:59:17 PM
How do you guys with the same color vanes quickly figure out which way to load your arrow when you need to in the heat of the moment?
You gotta look down regardless so vane up, and the nock squared up to the string is the same regardless of color
:yeah: except you don't really have to look down. Arrow nocks have a small bump on one side. When I load an arrow I pull the nock onto the string with my finger and thumb. Feel bump with thumb it's going on right.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Twang on December 16, 2016, 12:36:25 AM: All nocks load same every time without looking or feeling for bumps. Just always practice with hunting quiver and set arrows in quiver same way every time. Practice not looking when setting arrow. Huge difference. Hmm guess that might not work for release users but at least the arrow mates the string right and pretty fast too.
Another observation, if you are in eye contact (crap) with game they often bolt out that instant eye contact is broken. Dang black tails !
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: luckyman on December 16, 2016, 05:08:26 AM: I don't think, not being able to knock an arrow has ever been an excuse I've used for missing an animal.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: branches on December 19, 2016, 07:11:33 PM: Quote from: Band on December 13, 2016, 09:59:17 PM
How do you guys with the same color vanes quickly figure out which way to load your arrow when you need to in the heat of the moment?

I use a sharpie and put a dot on my nock.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: coachcw on December 22, 2016, 01:15:51 PM: don't over think it . set your vanes off up or what ever you want in relation to your nock and then tune the broad head end to fly . I've always got one to fly then just matched the rest :tup:
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: drk9988 on January 02, 2017, 05:34:08 PM: I found going to a straighter arrow helped me get my razor tricks flying true.. I went from a gold tip xt to a gold tip pro hunter.. Now I am shooting Black Eagle Rampage .001 straightness and couldn't be happier with how they fly.. I never messed with spinning arrows.
Title: Re: How to avoid having to turn nocks
Post by: Vandal44 on January 21, 2017, 08:11:48 AM: I buy .001 straightness arrows first I cut a little off the front and back of the arrow and square both ends. I have a RAM spine tester so I check for the stiff side of the arrow and mark it, after I hot melt the inserts in I will square the insert. I then fletch using the same color vanes, if an arrow flies a little off at 80 yards then I will rotate the nock, if that doesn't work then I will heat the insert and rotate the insert. After all that I should have a good flying arrow

Do you have to do this to your arrows NO.

This sound like a lot of work and it is, however I enjoy doing it and it makes me feel a little more confident in my shooting.

There are a two companies I believe that mark the arrows stiff side from the factory; Victory Arrow Co. and the other Black Eagle Arrows