Post by: n_mathews13 on December 13, 2016, 06:00:37 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 13, 2016, 06:37:34 AM
Post by: b23 on December 13, 2016, 07:00:22 AM
The small revolvers like the S&W 442 or Ruger LCR are both great options if you're leaning that direction. I'm partial to the M&P Shield and I think they make a great CCW. They come in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 now, too.
If you ask ten different people, you'll likely get ten different answers so the best advice I can give you is do your research and go to a range where you can try a bunch of different ones.
One of the biggest things to consider, if you're serious about carrying a CCW, regardless of what it is, pick something that you'll actually carry on a regular basis because you can have the most awesome badazz thing in the world, but it'll do you no good if it's always sitting in a drawer at home.
Post by: Lefthook on December 13, 2016, 07:02:20 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 13, 2016, 07:05:57 AM
Post by: n_mathews13 on December 13, 2016, 07:45:10 AM
There's nearly an endless amount of options for you to choose from. Do you have idea of what you're wanting, revolver, single stack, double stack, caliber, and the list goes on and on and on.
The small revolvers like the S&W 442 or Ruger LCR are both great options if you're leaning that direction. I'm partial to the M&P Shield and I think they make a great CCW. They come in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 now, too.
If you ask ten different people, you'll likely get ten different answers so the best advice I can give you is do your research and go to a range where you can try a bunch of different ones.
Kinda like revolvers but I am guessing I can't load as many rounds in that compared to like the shield
One of the biggest things to consider, if you're serious about carrying a CCW, regardless of what it is, pick something that you'll actually carry on a regular basis because you can have the most awesome badazz thing in the world, but it'll do you no good if it's always sitting in a drawer at home.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 13, 2016, 08:53:08 AM
Post by: mossy8352 on December 13, 2016, 09:07:53 AM
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Post by: rtspring on December 13, 2016, 09:09:24 AM
I carry a XDM .40 and love it, very accurate, light and has the high capacity mag.
Post by: Lincoln4 on December 13, 2016, 10:04:53 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 13, 2016, 10:41:18 AM
I agree with the consensus that its wise to go rent a few at the range before buying.
However, i would do some research and philosophical pondering on the toilet before even getting to that point. I highly recommend considering a revolver over a bottom feeder (aka semi-automatic). I carried a bottom feeder for a decade before going old school with a wheel gun and haven't looked back. Do yourself a favor and at least study the pros and cons of each before deciding. :twocents:
Glocks are perfect, when they're not breaking! :chuckle:
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on December 13, 2016, 10:57:36 AM
Post by: Firedogg on December 13, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Once you find one you like to shoot the real trouble starts when trying to find a concealment holster that works for you.
Both my Sig 229 and Kimber Pro Carry II ride in Alien Gear IWB holsters.
Post by: Igor on December 13, 2016, 11:01:31 AM
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Post by: ghosthunter on December 13, 2016, 11:14:23 AM
And a LCP 380 as a back up pocket pistol.
I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
Post by: b23 on December 13, 2016, 11:29:34 AM
S&W 342PD........at 10.8 oz. it is very easy to conceal.
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Those were a very light CCW, a few ounces lighter than the 442 even, but I think S&W stopped making the 342 quite a few years ago.
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 13, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
As long a the recoil spring is good and you oil it once in a while and don't accidently drop it in a fire, a Glock shouldn't fail you.
Note: I also want a revolver, semi usually don't handle snake shot rounds too well.
Post by: C-Money on December 13, 2016, 12:24:56 PM
Post by: 724wd on December 13, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 13, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors of
Post by: Buzz2401 on December 13, 2016, 04:04:27 PM
i pack a S&W airweight .38+P when I'm out and about, but there's ALWAYS an NAA .22 sidewinder in my pocket. I have the .22 mag cylinder, too, but haven't used it. .22 LR with 1 finger on the grip and a 1 1/8" barrel is enough! :chuckle:
I second this. I own a crap load of different pistols most of them being Auto's but my carry gun is a S&W airweight 38spl
Post by: yakimarcher on December 13, 2016, 04:47:55 PM
Post by: brew on December 13, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
I like the M&P Shield 9mm for most applications. Sig 238 for skinny jean days... :tup:last time i wore a pair of "skinny jeans" was in 6th grade paird with my waffle stompers...the jeans i wear nowadays your could hide an RPG in
Post by: SpringerFan on December 13, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
Need to think about a belt as well. I just got a Bigfoot 18oz. with steel core. Thought it was too stiff but after a week I know I made the right choice.
Like everyone else has recommended, try first.
I am not affiliated with either company.
Post by: n_mathews13 on December 13, 2016, 10:06:08 PM
Beretta Nano 9mm, any input?
Post by: n_mathews13 on December 13, 2016, 10:31:17 PM
Shoot before you buy!
I carry a XDM .40 and love it, very accurate, light and has the high capacity mag.
XD(M)® 3.8″ COMPACT .40SW was looking at these look like a good one have to go to a store and try it out
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2016, 04:58:02 AM
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Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2016, 04:59:51 AM
What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors ofhighstandard capacity magazines that will tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver :rolleyes:
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Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2016, 05:10:15 AM
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Post by: Bean Counter on December 14, 2016, 05:26:16 AM
What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors ofhighstandard capacity magazines that will tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver :rolleyes:
Then I'll go Jerry Mitchulek on them :)
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2016, 06:06:44 AM
I bet....What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors ofhighstandard capacity magazines that will tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver :rolleyes:
Then I'll go Jerry Mitchulek on them :)
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Post by: coachcw on December 14, 2016, 06:30:37 AM
Post by: b23 on December 14, 2016, 06:36:52 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 14, 2016, 08:07:44 AM
Odds are I'll never need my weapon for self defense
If it does come out, the bad guy will likely run off at its presentation.
If I do fire, its not likely to be more than a half a dozen shots.
If I do win the odds lottery and I'm present at Costco/Walmart for a Charlie Hebdo style attack, my family is better served by us making a break for the fire escape rather than pressing the threat. Its really a question of proximity and routes of egress when the shooting begins. Going after a couple of highly committed active shooters with sport utility rifles isn't going to be end much better for me with a bottom feeding pistol w/2x 30 round magazines than a classic wheel gun. :twocents:
Post by: thinkingman on December 14, 2016, 08:25:33 AM
Because packing a doublestack is twice or more as difficult as a singlestack.What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors ofhighstandard capacity magazines that will tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver :rolleyes:
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OP-Kahr PM9.
If 7 won't solve your problem, 15 probably won't.
Post by: b23 on December 14, 2016, 08:29:33 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 14, 2016, 08:42:03 AM
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2016, 09:33:24 AM
I carry a single stack also. But spare magazines are a lot easier to carry then moon clips/speed loaders.Because packing a doublestack is twice or more as difficult as a singlestack.What if your self defense situation isn't the average self defense situation? Why get caught short in the land of plenty.I read somewhere that most self defense shootings are two shots or less. :dunno:
The Armed Citizen - A Five Year Analysis (https://tacticalprofessor.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/tac-5-year-w-tables.pdf)
Median = 2
Average = 2
Don't repeat that too loud. There are a lot of tactical operators on YouTube pimping training courses and purveyors ofhighstandard capacity magazines that will tell you that a 15 round bottom feeder makes you 3x more prepared for a self defense situation than me with my 5-6 shot revolver :rolleyes:
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OP-Kahr PM9.
If 7 won't solve your problem, 15 probably won't.
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Post by: Jburke on December 15, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
LC9s:yeah:
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Post by: huntnphool on December 15, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
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Post by: T-Dozzer on December 17, 2016, 07:40:56 PM
The 26 can take the 19 mags.
Have a fullsize 1911 but is too heavy to pack around.
Post by: Jburke on December 17, 2016, 09:17:02 PM
If you in the Spokane area stop by Sharp Shooting on Freya. They rent pistols to try out (at least they did 15 years ago) Double Eagle pawn on Francis has a great selection of hand guns. Go find the ones that feel right and then read about the pistols you liked and how to conceal them. A .32 acp in your pocket is better than a .45 acp left at home because its uncomfortable to carry...They do still rent guns and on Friday as well as Monday evenings they have a 2 for 1 special on range fees and include free gun rentals(you must buy their ammo to use their guns).
Post by: Mongo Hunter on December 19, 2016, 07:47:19 AM
Yeah I'm one of "those" guys that carries 2 guns. My work and living situation though makes this the best option for me, not necessarily everyone. But the best advice I can give you is this:
Rules:
1. Carry the gun.
2. Needs to be as close to 100% reliable as possible (no gun is 100%).
3. Practice, practice, practice.
So in the world we live in now the single stack 9's rule, and there's good reason. People normally make 1 of 2 mistakes when buying a CCW. either they buy too big and they don't want to carry it beyond the honeymoon period (see rule number 1). Or they buy too small and never practice with it (see rule number 3). Single stack 9's give you the best of easy to carry and not horrible to shoot.
so in my long winded response look at the Glock 43 or the S&W shield. cant go wrong with either and there's no safeties or magazine disconnects to worry about.
Post by: Booner on December 23, 2016, 08:19:59 PM
I shot the Walther much better than the Glock. My wife shot them both better than me lol but she chose the Glock because it was lighter.
For what it's worth (and per Mongo's post) I also have an XDM 3.8c in 9mm, I only carry that in the winter months because it's more difficult to conceal and heavier (not fun) than the Walther...that's why I bought the Walther for the other 9 months. Hardly know I have it on with the stealthgear iwb holster.
Best advice so far... Try them first both my wife and I hated the M&P. Up north, Norpoint has a very good selection of rental guns.
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Post by: n_mathews13 on January 04, 2017, 08:53:59 PM
Post by: Alchase on January 05, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
Everyone is going to have their favorite. The only right handgun is the one you are able to put rounds accurately on target, conceal comfortable, and the most important of all, the one "you" carry!
All other are preferences.
I have had many single stacks (by default easiest to conceal), many double stacks (fit my hand perfectly), a couple revolvers (reliable, but semi's have surpassed them IMO). Some I can't stand the grip angle on (Glocks) though that has not stopped me from owning and carrying them. Some are unnecessarily difficult to clean (compared to others).
I have have had .38's, 380s, 357's, .41 mags (favorite wheel gun) .44 mags, 9mm's, 10 mm's, .45's, and my current daily carry is a XD, 4 in. .40 cal.
All are valid options.
Go to a range, rent, and shoot many different sizes and calibers.
You will find a compact or sub-compact with the same caliber, will shoot differently then the same gun in standard size.
I owned many single stacks before I realized my hands preferred double stacks better. I owned and still own Glocks before I realized I do not really like the angle their grips are.
Then narrow down which manufacturer you prefer, and shoot, shoot, and shoot some more, LOL
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