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Community => Butchering, Cooking, Recipes => Topic started by: huntandjeep on December 16, 2016, 08:27:20 PM
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Picked up a Prime Rib for Christmas and have questions.
Never bought one let alone cooked one
1st Can I freeze it until Wednesday ?
2nd Planning on smoking it in the Traeger what temp should I cook it on , how long , what internal temp am I looking for ?
Thanks Allen
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Is just keep it in fridge wrapped and it will be fine. Freezing would be harder to get back on by the weekend.
With the smoker I'd use 225 until it hits 130 and then rest to 140 (medium rare). I'd season it well and sear it on all sides before I smoked it and I'd only have smoke for 2ish hours. Jack the temp at the end to get a crust. Avoid any humidity if you want to control cooking.
I'm gonna sous vide mine for 24 hours at 131 and then a 500 degree oven with a crust of whipped egg white and pepper and fresh chopped rosemary.
Merry Christmas and I'm sure it will be good eats at your place.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5o36iLRYyM8
Make sure you get the prime rib to room temp before you put it on the grill.
I am not sure about freezing it.
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Is it fresh or aged? Usually the aged meat keeps longer since moisture is removed. If fresh and you don't want to freeze it, you can dry age it at home, takes about a week to a week and a half.
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Is it fresh or aged? Usually the aged meat keeps longer since moisture is removed. If fresh and you don't want to freeze it, you can dry age it at home, takes about a week to a week and a half.
Not sure on the fresh vs aged , Wife picked it up today at Costco. It's got a Sell by date of the 19th so that's why was thinking throw it in the freezer for a couple days. For the price of these things don't want it going bad before Christmas.
How would I dry age it ?
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No need to freeze. I would take it out of the wrapper and let it dry in the fridge for a couple days before cooking as it concentrates the flavors. If you like it rare in the middle, cook no more than 125 in the middle, I do mine until 120. Let rest, covered for 15-20 minutes, covered in foil and a heavy towel. I'm doing mine in the smoker for the first time, I usually have done in on the grill or oven.
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Is it fresh or aged? Usually the aged meat keeps longer since moisture is removed. If fresh and you don't want to freeze it, you can dry age it at home, takes about a week to a week and a half.
Not sure on the fresh vs aged , Wife picked it up today at Costco. It's got a Sell by date of the 19th so that's why was thinking throw it in the freezer for a couple days. For the price of these things don't want it going bad before Christmas.
How would I dry age it ?
You would cover it with something like cheesecloth and let it air dry in the fridge. You have to swap the cloth every day or two. One drawback to doing something like this is the moisture content drops, so the prime rib gets smaller over time. So if you wanted to feed a big group, there would be less (less because it is more concentrated). Your fridge will also get that good butcher shop smell.
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Id follow costco instructions but put finish on grill after crusting it in the oven first 30 mins at 450 if I remember right ?
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Is just keep it in fridge wrapped and it will be fine. Freezing would be harder to get back on by the weekend.
With the smoker I'd use 225 until it hits 130 and then rest to 140 (medium rare). I'd season it well and sear it on all sides before I smoked it and I'd only have smoke for 2ish hours. Jack the temp at the end to get a crust. Avoid any humidity if you want to control cooking.
I'm gonna sous vide mine for 24 hours at 131 and then a 500 degree oven with a crust of whipped egg white and pepper and fresh chopped rosemary.
Merry Christmas and I'm sure it will be good eats at your place.
I think I just gained 5 pounds reading that. Oh my gosh drool. I could taste it from here.
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:yeah: heck yeah I hope after that we at least get to see a pic of the finished product :drool:
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If you've never smoked one...... well, your missing out. Just keep in fridge til you cook. Bring out of fridge and let it warm to room temp till you cook. also, make sure your let it rest after you take it out. it will climb about 5 deg. after. :twocents:
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If you're worried about it going bad you can also season it and leave it in the fridge the salt in your seasoning will easily give you a couple more days when I do mine on my pellet grills I smoke for an hour then turn the grill up to about 400 cook it hot till it reaches 135 let it rest for an hour good to go
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Is just keep it in fridge wrapped and it will be fine. Freezing would be harder to get back on by the weekend.
With the smoker I'd use 225 until it hits 130 and then rest to 140 (medium rare). I'd season it well and sear it on all sides before I smoked it and I'd only have smoke for 2ish hours. Jack the temp at the end to get a crust. Avoid any humidity if you want to control cooking.
I'm gonna sous vide mine for 24 hours at 131 and then a 500 degree oven with a crust of whipped egg white and pepper and fresh chopped rosemary.
Merry Christmas and I'm sure it will be good eats at your place.
Whitpirate,
Do you have a dedicated sous vide unit, or one of the portables that uses your own container?
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This is how I cook a rib roast.
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2009/12/perfect-prime-rib-beef-recipe.html
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So my oven is broke and the replacement won't be here until after the 1st. So will be cooking my Christmas prime rib on the gas grill. Any tips for me to make a great prime rib for Christmas?
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So my oven is broke and the replacement won't be here until after the 1st. So will be cooking my Christmas prime rib on the gas grill. Any tips for me to make a great prime rib for Christmas?
Low and slow just like in the oven. I've done them in the oven,on the grill and in a smoker. Rib roasts can be intimidating because they're expensive. They're actually pretty forgiving and hard to screw up IMO.
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Is just keep it in fridge wrapped and it will be fine. Freezing would be harder to get back on by the weekend.
With the smoker I'd use 225 until it hits 130 and then rest to 140 (medium rare). I'd season it well and sear it on all sides before I smoked it and I'd only have smoke for 2ish hours. Jack the temp at the end to get a crust. Avoid any humidity if you want to control cooking.
I'm gonna sous vide mine for 24 hours at 131 and then a 500 degree oven with a crust of whipped egg white and pepper and fresh chopped rosemary.
Merry Christmas and I'm sure it will be good eats at your place.
Whitpirate,
Do you have a dedicated sous vide unit, or one of the portables that uses your own container?
I've got a Joule made by ChefSteps (they are in Pikes Place Market)
I've had a couple others and if I didn't like a lot of the content that ChefSteps puts out I'd use an Anova.
I'm using my own containers and for this cook I'll use a Coleman extreme cooler. Also have plans for eggs Benedict for Xmas morning.
Sous Vide is getting much cheaper and while it seems a little gimmicky between my Joule and an instant pot I can replicate a number of things I used to spend several hours prepping back when I worked hospitality.
I'll look to take a few photos.
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Is just keep it in fridge wrapped and it will be fine. Freezing would be harder to get back on by the weekend.
With the smoker I'd use 225 until it hits 130 and then rest to 140 (medium rare). I'd season it well and sear it on all sides before I smoked it and I'd only have smoke for 2ish hours. Jack the temp at the end to get a crust. Avoid any humidity if you want to control cooking.
I'm gonna sous vide mine for 24 hours at 131 and then a 500 degree oven with a crust of whipped egg white and pepper and fresh chopped rosemary.
Merry Christmas and I'm sure it will be good eats at your place.
Whitpirate,
Do you have a dedicated sous vide unit, or one of the portables that uses your own container?
I've got a Joule made by ChefSteps (they are in Pikes Place Market)
I've had a couple others and if I didn't like a lot of the content that ChefSteps puts out I'd use an Anova.
I'm using my own containers and for this cook I'll use a Coleman extreme cooler. Also have plans for eggs Benedict for Xmas morning.
Sous Vide is getting much cheaper and while it seems a little gimmicky between my Joule and an instant pot I can replicate a number of things I used to spend several hours prepping back when I worked hospitality.
I'll look to take a few photos.
I ordered an Anova for my wife for Christmas. I'm sure I'll she'll love it!
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Trying our first sous vide prime rib this year as well, we have the Anova wand style. Was a bit nervous, glad to see some others are doing it. So far I've had mediocre results with steaks and pork chops, but have been turning out some unbelievable elk blackstrap.
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if you're gonna keep it in the fridge for a couple days put it on a wire rack so air can circulate all around it. modern refridge's circulate the air so you want it to be able to move the air all around it...i don't know if my temp probe is off but if i take mine out at 125 and foil/towel/cooler it the meat still comes out a little rare...will try to get the IT up around 135 this year after smoking it in the Bradley with cherry pucks. doing a 15 pounder this year and will take the roast and untie it as the butcher will cut the roast and tie it back to the bone-roll it in rock salt, pepper and garlic and retie before I start smoking it
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https://www.chefsteps.com/activities/win-the-holidays-with-herb-crusted-sous-vide-prime-rib-rib-roast
Worth a watch. I'm doing this one.
I've got a 4 bone grass-fed, free-range choice rib roast. I am going to do a prime chuck roast later this winter.
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Started a separate thread with the Christmas Roast cook.
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The best prime rib i have ever had went as follows:
1/4 cup salt
1/4 pepper
1/4 cup garlic
1/4 cup mix rosemary/thyme
3 table spoons olive oil. Cake that stuff on there!
bake at 400 with convection on.
pull when it hits 120
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how did it turn out???
Make notes in your cook book so you remember the adjustments for next year. Next year I am going to try the reverse sear.
I made some more notes in the cook book about time and temp. I put mine on a little early and had to throttle back the temp after doing some calculations.
Turned out great but could have used the bark crust on the outside.
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how did it turn out???
Make notes in your cook book so you remember the adjustments for next year. Next year I am going to try the reverse sear.
I made some more notes in the cook book about time and temp. I put mine on a little early and had to throttle back the temp after doing some calculations.
Turned out great but could have used the bark crust on the outside.
Starting the smoker in an hour. Cooking @ 225-250 for 4ish hours or when it reaches 130 ° internal , than going in the oven @ 500 for 15 - 20 to sear it.
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This is our favorite way, Season heavily then salt crust.
12lbs. 200-250 for aprox 4+ hours, pull at 118 and let rest for 30ish minutes. :drool:
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Looks like you forgot it on the porch all week :chuckle:
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Did a 12lber in the oven last night. 4.5 hours at 200°. Pulled at 125. It rested up to 127. A quick blast at 500 to crust up the outside.
Just put tonight's 10lber in the smoker at 225. Probably pull at 120. Tonight's guests like it a bit more rare.
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how did it turn out???
Make notes in your cook book so you remember the adjustments for next year. Next year I am going to try the reverse sear.
I made some more notes in the cook book about time and temp. I put mine on a little early and had to throttle back the temp after doing some calculations.
Turned out great but could have used the bark crust on the outside.
Starting the smoker in an hour. Cooking @ 225-250 for 4ish hours or when it reaches 130 ° internal , than going in the oven @ 500 for 15 - 20 to sear it.
You may be ahead of schedule with that cook temp. I had to back mine down to 180 to hit my target serve time. Plan on 3 hours of cook time at those temps.
Midway through I started doing some calculations. Run a test for 20 min and measure the starting temp and ending temp for that 20 min period. Run some simple math equations with end point of 130 degrees and that should tell you if you need to back the oven/smoker temp down.
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Costco- 500 degrees for 25 mins then 200 degrees for 25 mins per pound. Then let sit for 20 mins. That gets you a 145 degree center. Most of my family likes barely pink.
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Old school rotisserie. It's like watching chickens, so mesmerizing.
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That looks awesome!
Just threw ours in the oven after a 24 hr soak with a garlic/horseradish crust. Can't wait, I have purposely turned a blind eye to the candy today waiting for this moment! :chuckle:
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Here is ours. Seared in the oven for 30 min at 500 then onto the Traeger at 200 till it reaches 115. I'll update. This is before it went in the oven.
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Internal temp 97f, 2 hrs on the treager. Just bumped it up.
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Mines been on since 12:30 it @ 128° now. Pulling it @ 135 than 15minutes @ 500.
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Mines been on since 12:30 it @ 128° now. Pulling it @ 135 than 15minutes @ 500.
on a Traeger?
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Mines been on the Traeger since 12:30 as well. 118 now and seconds away from pulling and transferring to the 500 degree oven for a 15 minutes reverse sear to seal in the juices and make the bark.
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Mines been on the Traeger since 12:30 as well. 118 now and seconds away from pulling and transferring to the 500 degree oven for a 15 minutes reverse sear to seal in the juices and make the bark.
. I thought about doing the reverse sear. Next time..., what did you start the temp at?
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Tried my best to start and keep it at 250. However when dealing with bottom end pellet grills like Traegers, I was between 282 and 195 by swapping the dial every 5 minutes. About 220 is what I figured I averaged. Quality digital thermometer with a meat probe and an internal smoker probe is mandatory.
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Mines been in the Smoker since 9:30 just pulled it at 127 and then in the oven at Broil for 5 minutes.
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Decided to not sear it pulled it at 140° it's resting now. Sled I cooked it on a Pit Boss ( same as Treager ).
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@huntandjeep That looks great jeep. Did you rotate it to get that bark? That looks perfect outside.
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Done.
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:drool: these all look great.
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Mail me the end cut!
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Mail me the end cut!
Oh yeah the end cut. :drool:
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Dead center for me :P
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Anyone have great recipes for the left overs? The microwave is brutal on it.
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Anyone have great recipes for the left overs? The microwave is brutal on it.
Left overs what's that :chuckle:. Mine was 12 lbs and I didn't have enough for a sandwich this morning.
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:yeah: But when there is......I like it cold, weird maybe, but tastes good to me.
Microwave just turns it into roast beef.
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Throw it on the grill, rare and cold, for a quick sear.
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What flavor pellets are you pellet grill guys using?
Huntinjeep, any sliced picts or did it vanish before you had a chance!? You just low n slow right to 140* it sounds like?
You reverse sear guys, would I want to pull in the 120-125 range then into 500* oven it sounds like? till 135-140* and let rest to 140-145*?
Had one done by family for holidays, he cooked it @ 500 for 20 or 30min (not recall which) then turned oven off and left it in there closed up for hours. crust was oh, but just not done enough inside for me. Seemed like a really hard way to try and get timing and temp right.. But got me wanting to try it on my Rectec, just want to make sure I get a good crust.
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Anyone have great recipes for the left overs? The microwave is brutal on it.
Thinly sliced on sour-dough rolls. We added provolone and broiled it for 4 or 5 minutes, used up the remaining au jus as well.
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I use apple on beef. Not quite as smokey as hickory. I seared mine in a 475 degree oven for 20 minutes and then in the smoker for around 3 hours at 225 with just about a 1/4 cup of pellets. Took it out at 122 covered it heavily to rest about 20 minutes. It was perfect.
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Anyone have great recipes for the left overs? The microwave is brutal on it.
Thin slices warmed by simmering in aus jus on a toasted french roll with grilled onions and horseradish makes a great french dip
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:yeah:
Prime rib dips might be just as good as the initial slab. :twocents:
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I used the 3 pines rib roast recipe found in the Hunt Wa cookbook. It had great flavor. The only thing I didn't like was the Rosemary, was like eating a bunch of fir needles. I cooked it at 500 degrees for five minuets per pound, then shut the oven off and let ti rest in the oven for two hours. My prime was 10 lbs so I cooked for 50 minuets then rested in the oven (it's important not to open the oven during that two hour rest period). Had a great crust and the center was a perfect medium rare. It was gone before I had a chance to get any pictures.
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This is our favorite way, Season heavily then salt crust.
12lbs. 200-250 for aprox 4+ hours, pull at 118 and let rest for 30ish minutes. :drool:
I add some garlic, thyme, rosemary, olive oil and horseradish to make my crust.
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Thanks for the extra info, those sammiches look awesome!
I used the 3 pines rib roast recipe found in the Hunt Wa cookbook. It had great flavor. The only thing I didn't like was the Rosemary, was like eating a bunch of fir needles. I cooked it at 500 degrees for five minuets per pound, then shut the oven off and let ti rest in the oven for two hours. My prime was 10 lbs so I cooked for 50 minuets then rested in the oven (it's important not to open the oven during that two hour rest period). Had a great crust and the center was a perfect medium rare. It was gone before I had a chance to get any pictures.
That sounds like the way my Step-dad did it, he did not have a temp probe in it though and the middle was just way to rare for most of us, but once cut... Would have been better to stay in another 30min or hour..
As for the rosemary, get ground rosemary. It is a great additional flavor to have, but as you mentioned not enjoyable in stick form..
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Best part of Prime Rib is Yorksire pudding. The next morning cold slap a fatty red chunk on meat between the yorksire. Heart attach in the making....I love it
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Here's the rib I did for Christmas. 6 bone. Smoked for an hour on the Traeger, cranked it up to 300 for 3.5 hrs. Came off at 125 degrees and let rest for about 15 minutes. Medium Rare in the center.
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I love me some prime rib. Trick for me is to get the right level of saltiness. I prefer it a little closer to medium, but just as tender as a medium rare.
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I coated mine in a mixture of Montreal steak seasoning and ground coffee. Mine started at 9lbs. I seared mine on 500 for 4 minutes, then cooked on 325 for 3.5 hours. Pulled it at rare and rested to perfection. Mmmmm mmmmmm good. Plan on having prime rib dips for dinner. :drool:
Dog has enjoyed some bones