Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Scopes and Optics => Topic started by: 7mmfan on December 20, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
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I just got my first spotter, a Leupold Gold Ring Compact 15-30 x 50. Its a very lightweight scope.
I have no experience with tripods or heads or the benefits of a ball head vs. pan head.
I want to be able to use it standing up and sitting down, but I want it to be as light weight and compact as possible for putting in my pack. I started the research yesterday and realized immediately that I needed some input.
I know this is a can of worms being opened, so let me have it!
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From my research, you will need separate tripods for standing up and sitting down. unless you want to spend some coin. The ones used while standing up are generally more heavy in order to be less shaky and more secure. while the backcountry packable ones for sitting and glassing are usually lighter and a little less stable the higher you extend them.
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what is your budget?
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I got a Slik that is lightweight, inexpensive and works fine. Put a manfrotto head on it that works fine but its a big heavy hunk of metal. Gotta be something in plastic or aluminum out there that works as well. The head must weigh as much as the tripod.
I would look for a sitting tripod only for packing.
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Manfrotto makes a small/light, junior ball head that is perfect.
Adjust the tension and it pans and holds any size glass in any direction.
Spend the extra coin and get a full size tripod made out of light weight carbon/composite.
They are light enough you can still pack them hiking and go full height.
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Outdoorsmans... buy once cry once.. :chuckle:
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I use a manfrotto that is full size with manfrotto ball head weighs in at 4.5 lbs nice and steady and can use it sitting and standing.get one that you can use for both or you'll end up finding yourself in spots where you need the other
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I hike with a full size tripod that I can stand and use as well as collapse down to sitting most any position.
For my spotter I love my Manfrotto trigger head. It is heavier than most but is very fast to adjust with only one hand and is rock solid when sitting up on windy ridges. If you go too light, the wind will have it moving too much to even bother trying to use.
My Bogen/Manfotto tripod is getting dated and being aluminum transfers the cold right through my gloves, but it's been hard to replace. I'm looking for the right carbon fiber tripod to replace it but havnt made the choice yet.
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That's an easy choice.
Buy the Swaro.
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I spent almost 6 months researching this for a 20-60x65 swaro I purchased. I ultimately elected the outdoorsmans compact medium. I use it primarily sitting or kneeling. I have the pistol grip head and quick release panner on it. It is rock solid as far as stability, which was my primary concern.
I could have gone lighter with the carbon, but the folks I talked to that had them side by side, said that the carbon options, while lighter aren't as stable, and specifically in wind.
To be fair this is really the most expensive set up I could have gone with. I wanted to do this once and only once.
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what is your budget?
Most important question.
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what is your wife's Christmas gift budget?
Most important question.
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I got lucky bought my manfrotto tripod with a different head than I have now at packwood swap meet the guy didn't know what he had only paid $50😆
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I haven't established a budget for this yet, as I literally know nothing about them. I know I can spend about as much as I want to, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
I know me well enough to know that I absolutely will not head into the hills with something that is going to slow me down, either by weight or size. So a full size tripod that I have to carry in hand is out of the question. However, I have been in situations where I know I would need a tripod that can reach at least almost full height in order to use it effectively due to terrain/brush, etc... I know there are more expensive versions that can collapse down small enough to sit and use and expand out for standing use. I just don't know which ones are worth the money they want for them.
Keep the thoughts and suggestions coming, I'm logging names into the memory bank.
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I haven't established a budget for this yet, as I literally know nothing about them. I know I can spend about as much as I want to, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
I know me well enough to know that I absolutely will not head into the hills with something that is going to slow me down, either by weight or size. So a full size tripod that I have to carry in hand is out of the question. However, I have been in situations where I know I would need a tripod that can reach at least almost full height in order to use it effectively due to terrain/brush, etc... I know there are more expensive versions that can collapse down small enough to sit and use and expand out for standing use. I just don't know which ones are worth the money they want for them.
Keep the thoughts and suggestions coming, I'm logging names into the memory bank.
Outdoorsman products are what it impresses me that you are looking for. I don't own them personally, but friends have gone through an assortment getting to where they needed to be and I have been the beneficiary of a lot of dithering about trying to save a few bucks and not getting what they should have in the first place.
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I haven't established a budget for this yet, as I literally know nothing about them. I know I can spend about as much as I want to, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
I know me well enough to know that I absolutely will not head into the hills with something that is going to slow me down, either by weight or size. So a full size tripod that I have to carry in hand is out of the question. However, I have been in situations where I know I would need a tripod that can reach at least almost full height in order to use it effectively due to terrain/brush, etc... I know there are more expensive versions that can collapse down small enough to sit and use and expand out for standing use. I just don't know which ones are worth the money they want for them.
Keep the thoughts and suggestions coming, I'm logging names into the memory bank.
I choose to carry mine that way in the pic because it makes it quick to get on critters. It does fit into the small pack on my back if I take the head off of it and pack them both.
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Here's a pic of my tripod fits in side pocket of backpack and extends up to standing. I'm 6ft
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I haven't established a budget for this yet, as I literally know nothing about them. I know I can spend about as much as I want to, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere.
I know me well enough to know that I absolutely will not head into the hills with something that is going to slow me down, either by weight or size. So a full size tripod that I have to carry in hand is out of the question. However, I have been in situations where I know I would need a tripod that can reach at least almost full height in order to use it effectively due to terrain/brush, etc... I know there are more expensive versions that can collapse down small enough to sit and use and expand out for standing use. I just don't know which ones are worth the money they want for them.
Keep the thoughts and suggestions coming, I'm logging names into the memory bank.
I choose to carry mine that way in the pic because it makes it quick to get on critters. It does fit into the small pack on my back if I take the head off of it and pack them both.
I suppose if I was in a spot where I knew I was only glassing and the chance of running into an animal was low, I would probably do the same. I've just had enough missed opportunities where if I had not been carrying something I'd have gotten a shot.
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Here's a pic of my tripod fits in side pocket of backpack and extends up to standing. I'm 6ft
I'm a shorty, at 5' 9" so that would work fine. What is the normal going rate for a tripod/head like yours?
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Another pic
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I think the head was about $80 at cabelas and I got lucky on tripod at packwood swap meet paid $50.
Do some searching and you can find some pretty good deals on what you're looking for
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To me that's half the fun researching and finding
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They certainly won't be cheap but Nightforce has a new Carbon Fiber tripod they will be releasing after the first of the year that is capable of a lot more than your basic tripod. No idea what you're looking for but here's a link to it. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/05/nightforce-2016-carbon-fiber-tripod/
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Went sheep hunting earlier this year using a full-size Swarovski spotting scope (20-60x80 STM HD) and a couple of different full-size tripods.
One was a manfrotto mtpro4 with the RC128 pan head - weighs almost 7 pounds. Super stable, even in 35 mile an hour winds, and effortless panning. Painless to set up and take down quickly.
The other was a vortex summit carbon with a vortex pan head - weighs about half that, a little over 3 pounds. Less stable in wind, slower to take up and take down, noticeably less smooth panning.
Both are inexpensive, both worked reasonably well. If I was pre-season scouting, or walking a mile or so to glass, and planning to glass for a long time, I'd prefer the manfrotto. Big hike, long distance, I'd want the vortex or another lightweight tripod.
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SLIK Compact II and Manfrotto 496RC2 head weighs 2# total. Heavier than I want but works fine. Raises to about 40 inches. Can't imagine packing more weight than that for a tripod. Use it with Swaro 65mm Wide Angle
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+1 for the outdoorsmans. I run a medium with their panhead.
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+1 for outdoorsmans. I am thankful BLRman gave me the advice. You will not be disappointed.