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Title: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Saw this on Facebook. The poster there is not a member here and asked i share it here:

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"Hey guys. The lady who wrote that cougar article for king5 is also working on an article about bear hunting and the use of dogs. She is offering any of us the ability to do an on air interview with privacy, our names won't be released so we don't get death threats from antis. If anyone on here has good solid evidence for our side let me know.

I'm pushing for the comparison between Washington and Idaho and how they can use dogs and bait for bear and cougar hunting and we can't, now we are having all sorts of issues that other states don't. Please hit me with info guys! This is MAINSTREAM! Our voice can be heard!"

"If anyone want to reach out, her email is amorrow@king5.com and she said anyone willing to interview is welcome. It doesn't have to be me"
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Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Buckewe on January 24, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
Sounds like a great opportunity to get our voice heard but i hope its not as one sided as the cougar story.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 24, 2017, 10:11:54 AM
Bearpaw would be a good interview. Doublelung, also. Isn't Wacoyotehunter a biologist?
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2017, 10:17:14 AM
Bearpaw would be a good interview. Doublelung, also. Isn't Wacoyotehunter a biologist?

Yes
Yes
Yes

@bearpaw

@WAcoyotehunter

Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 24, 2017, 10:26:39 AM
I know it kind of sounds like a derail, but I've kind of thought that winning over the general Seattle crowd might be easier if you could show the end result.  I hear so often "what do you do with bear?", "isn't it real greasy?", "they just take the skins, right?" or "hunters don't eat bear or cougar".
Need to find one of those popular foodie personalities (Bourdain, Zimmer, etc.) that urbanites seem to really follow.  Have one of them do some really good and exotic bear and/or cougar dishes.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 24, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
I know it kind of sounds like a derail, but I've kind of thought that winning over the general Seattle crowd might be easier if you could show the end result.  I hear so often "what do you do with bear?", "isn't it real greasy?", "they just take the skins, right?" or "hunters don't eat bear or cougar".
Need to find one of those popular foodie personalities (Bourdain, Zimmer, etc.) that urbanites seem to really follow.  Have one of them do some really good and exotic bear and/or cougar dishes.

That's a good idea.  :tup:

Would have to have a stipulation that nothing goes to press with out approval of the interviewed person first, make sure she doesn't mis quote them.  :twocents:
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: sumpnz on January 24, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
Would have to have a stipulation that nothing goes to press with out approval of the interviewed person first, make sure she doesn't mis quote them.  :twocents:

Highly doubtful you'll ever get that from them.  The only way you can prevent that from happening is only do a live broadcast.  Another option would be to have someone on our side filming the entire interview so that if they do a hatchet job you can post the full video to refute them.  But live interviews are by far your best way to avoid problems.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: cbond3318 on January 24, 2017, 10:52:03 AM
Would have to have a stipulation that nothing goes to press with out approval of the interviewed person first, make sure she doesn't mis quote them.  :twocents:

Highly doubtful you'll ever get that from them.  The only way you can prevent that from happening is only do a live broadcast.  Another option would be to have someone on our side filming the entire interview so that if they do a hatchet job you can post the full video to refute them.  But live interviews are by far your best way to avoid problems.


 :yeah: sounds like a bad idea to me, especially now every Tom can send her an email with their feelings on the matter.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: X-Force on January 24, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
steven rinella  :twocents:
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: JBar on January 24, 2017, 11:06:06 AM
steven rinella  :twocents:
:yeah:
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: jackelope on January 24, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
steven rinella  :twocents:
:yeah:

He lives here now, doesn't he!?
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Buckewe on January 24, 2017, 12:45:28 PM
He lives in shoreline
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Woodchuck on January 24, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
steven rinella  :twocents:
That is a brilliant idea. Anybody have him on facebook?
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Rainier10 on January 24, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Another great option might be @ucwarden , he used to work for the department and could speak to the fact that the initiative to ban baiting and the use of dogs really hampered the departments ability to manage the wildlife.

One step further would be for Unsworth to make a statement.  He has experience in Idaho and Washington, so he could speak to both models of management.  Not sure that he would do it or if he would give the statement that would be in the best interest of hunters/game management or lean towards a more liberal view.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: bearpaw on January 24, 2017, 02:57:20 PM
We still use dogs and bait in Idaho, they are effective management tools. Who do you get in touch with for an interview?
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: headshot5 on January 24, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
@bearpaw

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"If anyone want to reach out, her email is amorrow@king5.com and she said anyone willing to interview is welcome. It doesn't have to be me"
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: bearpaw on January 24, 2017, 03:10:08 PM
 :tup: thanks
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: saylean on January 24, 2017, 04:10:45 PM
Rinella or bearpaw would be great. I will try to reach Rinella on Instagram...long shot though...

PS...I will donate some bear summer sausage if they want to try it on tv.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on January 24, 2017, 04:39:28 PM
I would mention that the state still indeed uses dogs to control the population in the tree farms, at the expense of the taxpayers.   Instead of making money they are paying.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 24, 2017, 04:47:33 PM
I would mention that the state still indeed uses dogs to control the population in the tree farms, at the expense of the taxpayers.   Instead of making money they are paying.


Curious how it is costing the State for damage hunts on timberland? 

Can you cite sources?

I was under the impression that the hound hunters had to not only maintain their hounds year round out of pocket, but fuel costs as well??

Is this this correct or is someone willing to chim in with the correct info??

Thanks...

Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: dreamunelk on January 24, 2017, 05:46:41 PM
Hunters receive a permit issued to the landowner or agent.  With the exception of staff time for management and damage verification there is no other money expended by the State.  All hunters involved have to possess a hunting license.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Mudman on January 24, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
I would be VERY careful.  Editing could turn it against us.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: CementFinisher on January 24, 2017, 06:24:29 PM
Lets stop talking about the depredation hunts and maybe remove the ones mentioned. a person reasearching for the article could catch wind and if brought to the attention of antis this tool could be challenged
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 24, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
Lets stop talking about the depredation hunts and maybe remove the ones mentioned. a person reasearching for the article could catch wind and if brought to the attention of antis this tool could be challenged

I doubt that really matters, afterall, it was the anti's who drafted the ballot inititative and they specifically left it in as an exception to the law, so as to avoid having to go against big timber like Weyco and their money who would have probably fought it....
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: X-Force on January 24, 2017, 10:41:38 PM
I would be VERY careful.  Editing could turn it against us.

I totally agree.

WAcoyotehunter Would be a good choice he is a bio in Washington, Idaho and Montana.
Title: Re: King 5 upcoming bear hunting story
Post by: JeffRaines on January 24, 2017, 11:49:11 PM
steven rinella  :twocents:
+1000, especially now that he's a resident.
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