Post by: snake on January 28, 2017, 07:20:26 PM
Post by: hunthard on January 28, 2017, 07:22:25 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 28, 2017, 07:50:25 PM
Post by: Stickerbush on January 28, 2017, 08:35:10 PM
Post by: jmscon on January 28, 2017, 08:37:52 PM
Pink salmon run might be out for mid Puget sound :'(
? Area 9 and or 10?
Post by: Stickerbush on January 28, 2017, 08:42:14 PM
Post by: follow maggie on January 29, 2017, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: bassquatch on January 30, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
This is only going to get worse and worse and worse :yike:
Post by: WAcoueshunter on January 30, 2017, 08:17:18 PM
https://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/research/divisions/fe/estuarine/oeip/g-forecast.cfm
Post by: jstone on January 30, 2017, 08:29:25 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 30, 2017, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on January 31, 2017, 06:49:25 AM
10 years ago you had a relatively good idea what most river seasons would be, now, you've got absolutely no idea until NOF is done with. the difference is now tribes have so much money that they're chipping away at our seasons and trying to push us off the rivers in most places. i do most of my fishing for kings on the lower nisqually these days, it went from open every day, to closed to boats monday-thursday, to closed to fishing monday-thursday, to fully open again but closing after august.
Post by: Stein on January 31, 2017, 07:39:01 AM
Post by: Night goat on January 31, 2017, 09:51:50 PM
Post by: twolabs on February 02, 2017, 01:34:49 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on February 02, 2017, 01:49:54 PM
When I was a kid we had a cabin up the Chiwawa. Lots a Salmon went up that river, was great fishing. One of my contractors has a cabin up there he said you cant fish and it is all screwed up.. Cause????ESA listing of Upper Columbia River steelhead and spring Chinook.
Post by: Night goat on February 02, 2017, 02:05:14 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on February 02, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
Honestly, the only reason why I'm going to buy a fishing lisence this year is so I can fly fish small creeks and stuff up in the hills, just happens to be that I have a good spot for pinks 7 min walk from my deck at my cabin, so, might get a lisence and huck flies off the beach, I highly doubt they are gonna close skagit pinks in the salt, but, I suppose you could say I don't have a very positive outlook on the fisheries in Washington, I've pretty much quit fishing here all together. I find it more enjoyable to get a rack of beer and hike up to a small lake and mess with bluegill and perch than most other fisheries, at least they haven't screwed that up yet
Give it time, give it time.
It's pretty dismal. I used to basically be a "steelhead bum" during the whole winter. The entire experience has become limited beyond what I ever imagined.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 02, 2017, 09:54:25 PM
I'd imagine the salmon seasons are going to be fast and furious, especially silvers. Supposedly they took the worst hit from 'the blob' that messed up ocean conditions.
Hopefully, more than just this:
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 02, 2017, 11:14:18 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on February 03, 2017, 07:42:17 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 03, 2017, 08:12:04 AM
Post by: Stein on February 03, 2017, 11:31:41 AM
There will be fish to be found, but when you add in ferry costs, hotels, gas and days of vacation it gets a bit much for many people.
Post by: theleo on February 03, 2017, 12:00:16 PM
Springer prediction is 101,000 to Bonneville...could be bad.Could be an interesting year to add to the data set for the discussion on the lower 4 dams on the Snake.
Post by: snake on February 03, 2017, 04:55:46 PM
It's gonna be tough. My take, there will be salmon that we can catch. Somewhere. Are you good/flexible enough to catch them? If they aren't stacking up in the pool in front of your house, it may require some effort. My six year old punched 44 (not caught, actually punched) fish in 2015. He kicked my rear, I only punched 41. This is also a pink year. Last year was tough, but there were some fish to be had. You need to know how to fish, and be flexible on when/where you do it.Wow, you are totally not getting the point here...good for you by the way...
Post by: Tinmaniac on February 03, 2017, 06:15:24 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on February 04, 2017, 11:49:32 AM
Because those dams caused the ocean conditions to be horrible the last few years?Springer prediction is 101,000 to Bonneville...could be bad.Could be an interesting year to add to the data set for the discussion on the lower 4 dams on the Snake.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on February 04, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
Or because they caused last year's sharp decline in fall chinook?Springer prediction is 101,000 to Bonneville...could be bad.Could be an interesting year to add to the data set for the discussion on the lower 4 dams on the Snake.
Post by: singleshot12 on February 04, 2017, 01:52:34 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 04, 2017, 06:40:54 PM
It's gonna be tough. My take, there will be salmon that we can catch. Somewhere. Are you good/flexible enough to catch them? If they aren't stacking up in the pool in front of your house, it may require some effort. My six year old punched 44 (not caught, actually punched) fish in 2015. He kicked my rear, I only punched 41. This is also a pink year. Last year was tough, but there were some fish to be had. You need to know how to fish, and be flexible on when/where you do it.Wow, you are totally not getting the point here...good for you by the way...
It's gonna be a tough year. Not the first time. I enjoy fishing and spending time with my kid. The idea that I would not buy a fishing license because I need to fish outside of my home water would never cross my mind.
I know that's not what the OP was asking, but several of the posts went that way. But I also get tired of the "woe is me" crowd who would like to blame everyone under the sun rather than just getting out there. There are animals to be hunted and fish to be killed, I'd rather live my life making the best of the hand I'm dealt instead of griping about whether the deck was fairly shuffled.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 04, 2017, 09:30:05 PM
Pinks don't count and neither do the ones that are brought home not bled with the guts still in them.
I haven't NOT bled a fish in probably 25 years. Heck, I even bleed perch and planted trout. I don't gut my fish on the water because I don't want their cavities water logged with ice water. If your pinks are soft, maybe you should try not gutting them when you can't keep it dry (and still cold)?
Most of those 86 fish in 2015 were not pinks, although plenty were. Same day pinks are great. I punched 43 in 2014 (non-pink year) if that makes you feel better.
Post by: Bullkllr on February 04, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
The driving idea behind this thread is the unprecedented limitations sports-fishers in Washington faced last year and perhaps this year too. While we've lost a lot over the years, last year was a whole new level.
Looking at ocean conditions for this cycle and the current state of politics involved, it's hard to imagine much better in the near future. Coho will probably be on a par with last year. CR chinook may be down somewhat. That ain't good for state-wide fishing prospects. As mentioned, even pink numbers will probably be a fraction of the past few cycles.
Post by: snake on February 05, 2017, 09:13:32 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on February 06, 2017, 09:00:44 PM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 10, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
Pinks don't count and neither do the ones that are brought home not bled with the guts still in them.
I haven't NOT bled a fish in probably 25 years. Heck, I even bleed perch and planted trout. I don't gut my fish on the water because I don't want their cavities water logged with ice water. If your pinks are soft, maybe you should try not gutting them when you can't keep it dry (and still cold)?
Most of those 86 fish in 2015 were not pinks, although plenty were. Same day pinks are great. I punched 43 in 2014 (non-pink year) if that makes you feel better.
I was thinking about changing it up this year.
Dry ice on bottom, sturdy layer between, then fish on top. What do you think?
Post by: Tinmaniac on February 11, 2017, 07:21:33 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 11, 2017, 07:54:44 PM