Post by: huntnfmly on February 03, 2017, 10:57:51 PM
I've been looking at these for awhile they look like great packs.Who has experience with kifaru Packs and how did you like them?
Post by: coop2424 on February 03, 2017, 11:28:40 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on February 03, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Hey guys just got a good deal on a kifaru emr2 with Hunter frame 26in
I've been looking at these for awhile they look like great packs.Who has experience with kifaru Packs and how did you like them?
DO IT. I have the new style hunter duplex frame with 26inch stays and love it. Packed some really heavy loads with it and did a few backpacking trips. I have the timberline1 bag
I also use my timberline1 bag for day hunting as well. Throw my sweat shirt and jacket in there. Then debone whatever I kill and throw it in the pack don't have to walk back to camp
Post by: huntnfmly on February 04, 2017, 12:55:15 AM
Post by: 92xj on February 04, 2017, 06:16:17 AM
Post by: grundy53 on February 04, 2017, 06:45:15 AM
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Post by: hogslayer on February 04, 2017, 06:57:39 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on February 04, 2017, 08:59:48 AM
I'm sending the money today. I've been watching all the videos they have.looking forward to getting it.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 04, 2017, 09:03:23 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on February 04, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on February 04, 2017, 09:04:47 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on February 04, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
It comes with the carbon frame with the aluminum stays
The packs aren't really water proof. I would consider it water resistant. I put all my clothes in E-vent dry stuff bags. They are tough and super lightweight. I would get the large size it's about the perfect size of your looking
https://www.rei.com/product/730882/sea-to-summit-event-compression-dry-sack
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on February 04, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on February 04, 2017, 12:45:02 PM
For consistent heavy duty use, Kifaru is your friend.
Post by: 7mag. on February 04, 2017, 01:12:24 PM
Depending where you live, I could help you adjust your new pack to fit you correctly. High end packs like Kifaru, only work well if adjusted right.
Post by: huntnfmly on February 04, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
I'm sure you won't be sorry. I have 2 Kifaru's, and love them.Thanks for offer if I have any problems I'll get a hold of you I live in Bonney lake
Depending where you live, I could help you adjust your new pack to fit you correctly. High end packs like Kifaru, only work well if adjusted right.
Post by: huntnfmly on February 08, 2017, 06:27:13 PM
Can't wait till pack shows up
Post by: 92xj on February 08, 2017, 06:32:05 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 08, 2017, 07:18:36 PM
Nice, I just sold one frame is today and will be placing an order tomorrow on a new frame.I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Post by: pd on February 08, 2017, 07:26:45 PM
I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Post by: hollymaster on February 08, 2017, 08:00:44 PM
:lol4:I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Post by: Antlershed on February 08, 2017, 08:10:57 PM
Post by: 92xj on February 08, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
Nice, I just sold one frame is today and will be placing an order tomorrow on a new frame.I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
I hear that. Luckily with the deal I struck I should only be out 5 dollars with this new frame purchase. I have lost a good bit weight so I was going to have to buy a new belt for 80 for my frame. I have the new 24 hunter frame large belt and ever since buying it the 26 tactical has intrigued me, so, sold the 24 for 310 and will buy the 26 tactical with the medium belt I was going to have to purchase anyways. So, buyer got a smoker deal on a brand newish hunter 24 and I'm only out 5 unplanned bucks for a 26tactical. Can't wait to hear about your deer season.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 09, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
that is awesome!!!!Nice, I just sold one frame is today and will be placing an order tomorrow on a new frame.I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
I hear that. Luckily with the deal I struck I should only be out 5 dollars with this new frame purchase. I have lost a good bit weight so I was going to have to buy a new belt for 80 for my frame. I have the new 24 hunter frame large belt and ever since buying it the 26 tactical has intrigued me, so, sold the 24 for 310 and will buy the 26 tactical with the medium belt I was going to have to purchase anyways. So, buyer got a smoker deal on a brand newish hunter 24 and I'm only out 5 unplanned bucks for a 26tactical. Can't wait to hear about your deer season.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 09, 2017, 10:50:21 AM
:chuckle: hopefully the draws treat me well and I'll be adding WY and NV to ID, CO, and MT. And no I didn't get a divorce :chuckle::lol4:I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 09, 2017, 11:05:45 AM
Not yet anyhow. I may end up there if we end up in wy or if I draw any elk tags anywhere. :chuckle::chuckle: hopefully the draws treat me well and I'll be adding WY and NV to ID, CO, and MT. And no I didn't get a divorce :chuckle::lol4:I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 09, 2017, 11:20:18 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 09, 2017, 11:28:04 AM
WHEN we end up in WY my friend. WHEN:chuckle:
Post by: bracer40 on February 09, 2017, 11:31:37 AM
:chuckle: hopefully the draws treat me well and I'll be adding WY and NV to ID, CO, and MT. And no I didn't get a divorce :chuckle::lol4:I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Speaking from experience, if you'd gotten divorced, you probably wouldn't have been able to afford ANY out of state hunts! :bash:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 09, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
:chuckle: true statement probably. Although I think I could wing it if I just lived down by the river. I mean I have really good backpacking gear, and if I kept my gym membership I could still shower and stuff. :chuckle::chuckle: hopefully the draws treat me well and I'll be adding WY and NV to ID, CO, and MT. And no I didn't get a divorce :chuckle::lol4:I'm jealous! I so want to sell my duplex and upgrade to the new hunter frame, but I'm going full retard on deer tags this season and don't want to part with the cash :'(
Inquiring minds want to know. Just how is this season going to be any different from previous seasons?
2015: 1/4 retard
2016: 1/2 retard
2017: Full Monty
:chuckle:
Speaking from experience, if you'd gotten divorced, you probably wouldn't have been able to afford ANY out of state hunts! :bash:
Post by: huntnfmly on February 13, 2017, 03:28:49 PM
As Maxwell smart would say missed my pack by that much😊
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 13, 2017, 03:54:56 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 13, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
Dagnabit I just watched the mail lady pull out of our driveway and seen the sorry we missed you slip on the door.That is funny but also not funny :chuckle: Just gives you something to look forward to in the coming days i guess :chuckle: :sry:
As Maxwell smart would say missed my pack by that much
Post by: huntnfmly on February 14, 2017, 05:21:51 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on March 06, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
I've had a bag of dog food in pack with the bottom straps on pack cinched down to keep bag up but it still rode pretty low in pack but pack felt good.
I read to put lighter stuff in bottom also to raise weight up higher I just put a coat in bottom then the bag of dog food and dang huge difference it actually felt like I took 10 lbs out of pack.
This thing keeps getting better 😆
Post by: dscubame on March 09, 2017, 07:55:58 PM
Post by: hogslayer on March 09, 2017, 08:06:01 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 09, 2017, 08:10:21 PM
Post by: dan11011 on March 09, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
DT1 w/ 26inch Duplex Frame (Has packed out a bull elk and gone on a few backpacking trips. No problems.
Antero in Black w/ no waist belt (my edc, that also packed out an antelope this fall)
and
Size Large and XS Kifaru Duffel. All items work great for what they are intended to do.
Post by: 7mag. on March 10, 2017, 08:07:37 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2017, 08:15:52 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
If waterproof is the metric, this one ought to make your heart pound!
Post by: kselkhunter on March 10, 2017, 08:28:26 AM
Post by: couesbitten on March 10, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
:yeah: I have a Kifaru and an Exo, love them both, anything I am concerned about getting wet, goes in a dry bag.
Post by: kentrek on March 10, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
If waterproof is the metric, this one ought to make your heart pound!
:yeah: take that and secure it with a grab it and guide lid and your ready for anything, my preferred set up so far with kifaru but I'm around lots of water
Post by: dscubame on March 10, 2017, 10:31:00 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
I get the distinct impression that Kifaru is the least water resistant of all the high end packs. I do not hear about other packs taking on water to the degree Kifaru packs do. I have formed this impression based on years and hours upon hours of reading in forums such as this one, as a pattern has developed. From personal experience my Badlands takes on water where my Stone Glacier has not. Perception may be reality or may not be.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
I get the distinct impression that Kifaru is the least water resistant of all the high end packs. I do not hear about other packs taking on water to the degree Kifaru packs do. I have formed this impression based on years and hours upon hours of reading in forums such as this one, as a pattern has developed. From personal experience my Badlands takes on water where my Stone Glacier has not. Perception may be reality or may not be.
A quality pack cover can be purchased for low price, or I can see my own easily.
Personally I don't care if my pack takes on water like instant rice, it's a non factor in my decision. A cover is donned or doffed in 2 seconds :tup:
Post by: mburrows on March 10, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
When buying a pack how water repellent it is would never cross my mind or would be at the bottom of my priorities :twocents:
Post by: coop2424 on March 10, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
I can see stone glacier shielding water better than most due to material they use. I have first hand experience with exo and kifaru and noticed no difference when in the rain. This is a non factor for me when I made my decision on my pack. I probably will pick up a cover to throw on if needed like the Jon states but at this point I have not had an issue throwing electronics and extra clothes in lightweight dry bag if extreme heavy rain. Even if I have a cover I will still put those items in drybag if raining hard since they are important pieces of gear.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
I get the distinct impression that Kifaru is the least water resistant of all the high end packs. I do not hear about other packs taking on water to the degree Kifaru packs do. I have formed this impression based on years and hours upon hours of reading in forums such as this one, as a pattern has developed. From personal experience my Badlands takes on water where my Stone Glacier has not. Perception may be reality or may not be.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 10, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
With all of your forum reading to see patterns have ypu also seen that most forums and posts show that the kifaru is favored over the other packs drastically? Could there be a reason for that? Obviously it isn't because they are the cheapest out there.I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
I get the distinct impression that Kifaru is the least water resistant of all the high end packs. I do not hear about other packs taking on water to the degree Kifaru packs do. I have formed this impression based on years and hours upon hours of reading in forums such as this one, as a pattern has developed. From personal experience my Badlands takes on water where my Stone Glacier has not. Perception may be reality or may not be.
I don't own a kifaru and couldn't care less if my pack leaks water. When hunting in some pretty serious rain my mystery ranch had as much water inside as my buddy's kifarus. That's real world experience... outside doing it... not opinions I've formed by reading forums.
Post by: dscubame on March 10, 2017, 01:42:12 PM
I have a bunch of Kifaru gear they are a fantastic company.
Post by: shanevg on March 10, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
With all of your forum reading to see patterns have ypu also seen that most forums and posts show that the kifaru is favored over the other packs drastically? Could there be a reason for that? Obviously it isn't because they are the cheapest out there.I am very surprised that so many are enamored with Kifaru packs when I read about those on this thread that have to use dry bags and zip lock bags to keep the contents dry.
ZERO high end packs are waterproof. Waterproof material isn't durable.
I get the distinct impression that Kifaru is the least water resistant of all the high end packs. I do not hear about other packs taking on water to the degree Kifaru packs do. I have formed this impression based on years and hours upon hours of reading in forums such as this one, as a pattern has developed. From personal experience my Badlands takes on water where my Stone Glacier has not. Perception may be reality or may not be.
I don't own a kifaru and couldn't care less if my pack leaks water. When hunting in some pretty serious rain my mystery ranch had as much water inside as my buddy's kifarus. That's real world experience... outside doing it... not opinions I've formed by reading forums.
Don't have issues with water in your pack when you use a rain cover.
http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/pack_cover.shtml
1.7 oz and covers my Kifaru perfectly, even fully loaded with a deer in it.
Post by: dscubame on March 10, 2017, 02:19:59 PM
Post by: coop2424 on March 10, 2017, 02:43:34 PM
2nd that and the REI rain cover is popular enough that sometimes it is hard to find one in stock.
Do you run one then? Is that why your stone glacier hasn't taken on any water?
Post by: dscubame on March 10, 2017, 03:58:49 PM
2nd that and the REI rain cover is popular enough that sometimes it is hard to find one in stock.
Do you run one then? Is that why your stone glacier hasn't taken on any water?
I use the Stone Glacier rain cover in serious down pours. For the most part however even without the cover it does not take on water. I think the way they do the zippers may play a role. Really have not put much thought into it and was just pointing out that I find it interesting so many find Kifaru packs taking on water. Some folks seem to think I am the devil for my observation apparently. Maybe it is a Chevy vs Ford thing. Either way my interest in it has been lost and moving on. I will write it off to "off season" negative attack banter. Positive thoughts this Friday. :brew:
Post by: huntnfmly on March 10, 2017, 06:37:05 PM
Is the water soaking thru material or coming thru zippers and stitching?
Post by: mburrows on March 10, 2017, 07:42:29 PM
2nd that and the REI rain cover is popular enough that sometimes it is hard to find one in stock.
Do you run one then? Is that why your stone glacier hasn't taken on any water?
I use the Stone Glacier rain cover in serious down pours. For the most part however even without the cover it does not take on water. I think the way they do the zippers may play a role. Really have not put much thought into it and was just pointing out that I find it interesting so many find Kifaru packs taking on water. Some folks seem to think I am the devil for my observation apparently. Maybe it is a Chevy vs Ford thing. Either way my interest in it has been lost and moving on. I will write it off to "off season" negative attack banter. Positive thoughts this Friday. :brew:
Team stone glacier unite! Theyre all good packs, we gotta have something to talk about right?
Post by: coop2424 on March 10, 2017, 07:54:34 PM
Just curious is there any reason not to spray Packs with some kind of water proofing?
Is the water soaking thru material or coming thru zippers and stitching?
With the exo and kifaru in heavy rain they both soaked through material. I believe all the top packs kifaru,exo, stone glacier and mystery ranch use codura 500 last I checked. All the top packs are good to excellent and all depends how they fit you and what you are looking for in a pack.
Post by: bradslam on March 10, 2017, 08:42:27 PM
Post by: hollymaster on March 10, 2017, 09:30:39 PM
Sorry, but rain covers will not completely eliminate water from getting in a pack because they only cover a portion of it. Water will still run down the back panel and find it's way through the fabric and seams. Ultralight rain covers are also susceptible to being torn while bushwhacking. IMO, the best way to handle rain is the same way experienced backpackers do: use a trash compactor bag inside of your pack or a pack liner. Exo is coming out with an integrated pack liner for their 2017 packs, but I don't know how much it weighs compared to a trash compactor bag which will probably work just as well.Wait...what?? But a cheap plastic bag won't go with my expensive book bag. :tung: :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 11, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
Sorry, but rain covers will not completely eliminate water from getting in a pack because they only cover a portion of it. Water will still run down the back panel and find it's way through the fabric and seams. Ultralight rain covers are also susceptible to being torn while bushwhacking. IMO, the best way to handle rain is the same way experienced backpackers do: use a trash compactor bag inside of your pack or a pack liner. Exo is coming out with an integrated pack liner for their 2017 packs, but I don't know how much it weighs compared to a trash compactor bag which will probably work just as well.
Yeah nothing is perfectly waterproof while hiking, anyone who's tried it knows that.
If staying dry during rain is that important then they ought to stay in their shelter :chuckle: