Post by: wolfbait on March 07, 2017, 06:18:27 PM
http://redoubtnews.com/2017/03/06/prosecution-discredited-malheur-ii/
Post by: csaaphill on March 11, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
Prosecution Discredited in Malheur II ?ass hat cooper took a plea now regretting it so trying to turn states evidence on them! :bash:
http://redoubtnews.com/2017/03/06/prosecution-discredited-malheur-ii/
Fricking snitch!
Post by: bigtex on March 12, 2017, 08:03:57 AM
Post by: Special T on March 12, 2017, 09:20:52 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on March 12, 2017, 09:47:50 AM
Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
Post by: Special T on March 12, 2017, 01:20:45 PM
My point in posting those numbers is that an active armed resistance isn't remotely effective.
Post by: grundy53 on March 12, 2017, 01:31:08 PM
Maybe in the 80's and 90's.Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
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Post by: Dan-o on March 12, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
But this article is clearly written from a bias. There are lots of examples of bias in the writing. Here's just one: referring to Lavoy Finnicum's death as a murder. He resisted arrest, fled the scene, drove wrecklessly, jumped out and tried to run (shortly after proclaiming that he would,'( be taken alive), made a big deal of packing his pistol, made 'prophetic statements' about going out in a blaze of glory, waved his arms crazily like he was reaching for a gun........... that's not murder. That's a guy forcing the issue until he is finally dealt with.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2017, 10:10:18 PM
*censored* *censored* *censored* you!Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
Seriously The liberty movement is about returning to what were supposed to be and get rid of all this crap that cops are absolute, of which they weren't supposed to have been to begin with.
Seriously learn to be a true liberal rather than a progressive ass will ya.
Comparing people fighting for our liberty to ISIS is irresponsible and wrong!
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2017, 10:31:12 PM
I don't see where the prosecution was discredited..... they got convictions. Not sure how a rational individual calls that being discredited.Referring it to murder isn't biased when that's exactly what happened. 1 they had a plan 2 they shot him even though his hands were up. 3 shot in the back autopsy says so I read it. 4 they put the road block at a place that even their own regulations on roadblocks say to allow enough distance to stop, which this was on a blind corner where as a bit further back would have allowed him time to stop.
But this article is clearly written from a bias. There are lots of examples of bias in the writing. Here's just one: referring to Lavoy Finnicum's death as a murder. He resisted arrest, fled the scene, drove wrecklessly, jumped out and tried to run (shortly after proclaiming that he would,'( be taken alive), made a big deal of packing his pistol, made 'prophetic statements' about going out in a blaze of glory, waved his arms crazily like he was reaching for a gun........... that's not murder. That's a guy forcing the issue until he is finally dealt with.
No he wasn't resisting arrest his name wasn't on any warrant they had so he wasn't' under arrest. Thy had ample other times to have done so if they wanted to bad enough, for most went to Burns on a regular bases and ate and went around the town and their meetings.
no he wasn't waving his arms crazily he was stumbling through a foot or more of snow it's hard to keep your hands up while stumbling through deep snow try it sometime see how hard it is especially with guns pointed at you. NO! he didn't look nothing like he was reaching for a gun that was when they had had shot him in the back he's reaching for a wound at that point!
!00. Since I'd have that many points if I kept count, but yes it is murder because if you saw Cox's video they were shooting at him before he even got out. If he hadn't of there'd be a whole lot more death than just him. Murder he's not forcing the issue at all it's the feds and OSP for not letting them get to Grant county, and McConnell snitching them out telling OSP and FBI when and where they were going. BS. The first time any of them set foot in Burns they should of arrested them then but no they didn't they let them go to Church go to meetings and all then all of a sudden decided to road block them BS it's fricking murder.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2017, 10:34:02 PM
I don't see where the prosecution was discredited..... they got convictions. Not sure how a rational individual calls that being discredited.UH no they didn't not yet at least only convictions they got was Cooper taking a plea and some of the others getting *censored* whipped and freaked out. yes the Prosecution was discredited because their own witness was pretty much torn apart with the other Protester and Coopers own Parents saying he likes to lie when it suits his purpose so yes very much discredited :hello:
But this article is clearly written from a bias. There are lots of examples of bias in the writing. Here's just one: referring to Lavoy Finnicum's death as a murder. He resisted arrest, fled the scene, drove wrecklessly, jumped out and tried to run (shortly after proclaiming that he would,'( be taken alive), made a big deal of packing his pistol, made 'prophetic statements' about going out in a blaze of glory, waved his arms crazily like he was reaching for a gun........... that's not murder. That's a guy forcing the issue until he is finally dealt with.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2017, 10:36:23 PM
Of which I see no reason not to because the same conspiracy charge is what their facing in Nevada and with this coming out it means the Jury will not be very friendly to the Prosecutor.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on March 13, 2017, 07:17:30 AM
I didn't compare anyone to ISIS.*censored* *censored* *censored* you!Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
Seriously The liberty movement is about returning to what were supposed to be and get rid of all this crap that cops are absolute, of which they weren't supposed to have been to begin with.
Seriously learn to be a true liberal rather than a progressive ass will ya.
Comparing people fighting for our liberty to ISIS is irresponsible and wrong!
And I don't think the morons in OR were fighting for our liberty. They were fighting for their own benefit (free land for THEM to use) at all of our expense. I hope they get convicted.
Post by: csaaphill on March 13, 2017, 09:54:58 PM
You said Terrorist isn't ISIS terrorists?I didn't compare anyone to ISIS.*censored* *censored* *censored* you!Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
Seriously The liberty movement is about returning to what were supposed to be and get rid of all this crap that cops are absolute, of which they weren't supposed to have been to begin with.
Seriously learn to be a true liberal rather than a progressive ass will ya.
Comparing people fighting for our liberty to ISIS is irresponsible and wrong!
And I don't think the morons in OR were fighting for our liberty. They were fighting for their own benefit (free land for THEM to use) at all of our expense. I hope they get convicted.
Post by: csaaphill on March 13, 2017, 10:22:08 PM
they're only morons to you because they are a threat to the liberal Progressiveness that's going on. and no if you search out the sites they have out there about their cause they aren't fighting for their own benefit, but for what was originally said and meant in the Constitution. I've never seen on any of their sites where they want all land to be publicly owned, but to be able to do with what they do already own as they will without Federal Government interference. Not giving them a useless land use permit when they restrict the use to begin with.I didn't compare anyone to ISIS.*censored* *censored* *censored* you!Of the 28? Occupiers 7 were federal undercover agents or informants. People should keep in mind that government seems to fear the liberty/patriot movement.That's probably because they are responsible for most of out terrorist acts.
Seriously The liberty movement is about returning to what were supposed to be and get rid of all this crap that cops are absolute, of which they weren't supposed to have been to begin with.
Seriously learn to be a true liberal rather than a progressive ass will ya.
Comparing people fighting for our liberty to ISIS is irresponsible and wrong!
And I don't think the morons in OR were fighting for our liberty. They were fighting for their own benefit (free land for THEM to use) at all of our expense. I hope they get convicted.
telling they can water their cattle but then build a fence across it saying too bad.
Nothing they did infers terrorism at all, it's what's ingrained in the Bill of rights, and quotes from our forefathers; who did say it is our right to warn the rulers from time to time and use our own force against theirs.
they were already acquitted here in Oregon and look to seeing most getting acquitted again there in Nevada. The Govt's case against them in Nevada isn't any stronger than it was in Oregon, because there, they had their own property to defend, and an over reaching Govt trying to confiscate cattle that wasn't theirs, and had no right other than self usurped claim of Unconstitutional fines they have/had no right to claim in the first place.