Post by: Slow73 on March 19, 2017, 11:13:10 PM
a) I'm a little confused about arrow weight. I will be shooting 250 grain CE Piledriver Hunter with 100 grain G5 Montecs. By my math that equals 350 grains but seems that's not so when I read others who are shooting similar weight arrows and heads. They seem to get a heavier weighted setup. Why is that?
b) What is a good camo pattern for the early bow season around here? I'm thinking Mossyoak Obsession or Realtree Xtra Green. I will mostly likely be hunting from the ground employing a fabric blind. What do you suggest?
Post by: demontang on March 19, 2017, 11:19:18 PM
As to camo any really unless your after turkey. Turkey have very good sight. Deer and elk can't see colors like we do. Look for a pattern to helps break up your out line
Post by: Redbeard on March 19, 2017, 11:40:29 PM
http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Post by: Slow73 on March 19, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.
http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Post by: Old Dog on March 19, 2017, 11:53:56 PM
demontang is right. The 250 on the shaft refers to the spine of the shaft. The grains per inch should be on the shaft in really small print. If not it's available on their website. Real quick, spine refers to the flexibility of the shaft. The 250 ought to be good to about 60 lbs at 29". Remember to do the calculation for adjusted peak weight of the bow. It does matter! :tup:
Post by: Old Dog on March 19, 2017, 11:58:22 PM
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.
http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Did you add the 25 grains for the components? :dunno:
Post by: Old Dog on March 20, 2017, 12:05:22 AM
Post by: RadSav on March 20, 2017, 02:43:40 AM
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.
http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Did you add the 25 grains for the components? :dunno:
Blazer vane 6 grains X 3 = 18 grains
Insert = 11 grains
Bulldog Collar = 4 grains
Launchpad Nock = 10 grains
............
Total = 43 grains
perhaps some glue weight so figure 45 grains
I've seen Montec vary in weight out of package too.
Post by: Slow73 on March 20, 2017, 12:32:12 PM
I believe you are at 10.4 grains per inch. Multiply your arrow length by 10.4 and add broad head weight.Yeah I did that but was coming up short from what they were stating. Oh well look like I'll have well over 400 gr.
http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/archery/hunting-arrows/piledriver--hunter
Did you add the 25 grains for the components? :dunno:
Ahh that. That's prolly where the extra weight I'm seeing is coming from. :bash:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 20, 2017, 01:13:39 PM
Post by: LeviD1 on March 23, 2017, 01:58:45 AM
http://www.rockyboots.com/rocky-mens-apparel/rocky-silenthunter-1%2F4-zip-shirt/600546.html?dwvar_600546_color=AP#pmin=0&sz=20&start=1
Post by: JDHasty on March 23, 2017, 09:32:26 AM
Post by: Slow73 on March 26, 2017, 01:17:06 AM
Post by: JDHasty on March 27, 2017, 09:08:50 AM
Thanks all for the responses. After reading the replies I'm certain my arrows are now closer to 400gr. Wish I could have asked this question earlier because I would have gotten the 350's instead but CE recommended the 250's based on my set up. I'm am already invested in a dozen 250 Piledrivers so ain't no changing now lol. And as far as the camo yall have really helped to calm my nerves about desperately trying to perfectly match my surrounding since I'm a ground hunter and will choose based on potential noise, price and availability. What about clothing with supposed scentlock built in? Waste of money?
It depends on who you talk to on the sent blocker.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 27, 2017, 09:30:48 AM
Thanks all for the responses. After reading the replies I'm certain my arrows are now closer to 400gr. Wish I could have asked this question earlier because I would have gotten the 350's instead but CE recommended the 250's based on my set up. I'm am already invested in a dozen 250 Piledrivers so ain't no changing now lol. And as far as the camo yall have really helped to calm my nerves about desperately trying to perfectly match my surrounding since I'm a ground hunter and will choose based on potential noise, price and availability. What about clothing with supposed scentlock built in? Waste of money?
I've had great results wearing layered clothing, merino baselayers, fleece and then a less permeable outer shell. Avoiding sweating, eating spiced foods, scented deodorant, and breathing through your nose probably make the biggest difference along with what you wash your clothes with.
If a deer is downwind, he'll probably smell you but when and how clearly is why we go to great lengths to control our scent. Reality is, you can't always have the wind in your face and that's why we take those measures.
As far as perfectly matching your surroundings, don't break a sweat or your budget. Break up your outline and be still. Those are more important than patterns or price
Post by: JDHasty on March 27, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
Post by: theleo on March 27, 2017, 09:46:15 AM
What about clothing with supposed scentlock built in? Waste of money?In a word, yes. There's not much hunting in the western United States that won't have you doing tome huffing and puffing. As soon as you break a sweat your putting out odor your clothing can't control. Get a puffer bottle with powdered smoke and you'll be far better off than investing in Scent Blocker type clothing.
Post by: Tinmaniac on March 27, 2017, 09:53:10 AM
Post by: LeviD1 on March 29, 2017, 01:59:39 AM
Post by: JDHasty on March 29, 2017, 05:47:30 AM
Post by: Redbeard on March 29, 2017, 11:12:31 AM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175512/frankford-arsenal-ds-750-electronic-powder-scale-750-grain-capacity