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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Sabotloader on March 25, 2017, 04:20:47 PM
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Got another opportunity today to get some shooting in. All had to do was to dodge or time the expected rain storms that were to occur today + plus I needed to be back in town by 3:30 for the Gonzaga basketball game.
My excuse for this trip was actual bullet testing... Lehigh brought a new bullet out late last year. I got to shoot it enough to site the rifle in with it and then I really wanted to harvest a whitetail with it to compare it to the Bloodline. Did not get a chance to use the bullet because I got to choosey looking for the RIGHT buck.
But, the bullet is a copper .452x265 gr. with a the open nose hollow point.
(https://s26.postimg.org/jzqhj4055/Lehigh__452x265.jpg)
(https://s26.postimg.org/qh4c5i46x/IMG_1323.jpg)
Also last fall while shooting through a chrono I did establish the velocity I was shooting
(https://s26.postimg.org/8d1bkv6ih/265_Misc_Pics.jpg)
To me this is a really good looking CNC machined bullet. My early and first testing of the bullet showed that it was really and accurate bullet from Knight Ulite. The accuracy is there + plus I got a bit lucky.
(https://s26.postimg.org/t7do2p0vt/265__16_10_6_Tgt_Composite.jpg)
Today my mission in my mind was to reshoot this bullet and see if I could feel as good about it today as I did last fall.
It rained on me most of the way to the rock pit but by the time I got to the pit the rain had stopped. I quickly got the shooting bench and tailgate setup. Then in the back of my mind... I had been shooting so well with the fast twist 45's - really shooting clays @ 100 just didn't seem to be a challenge any longer. It worked out because there were plenty of chips on the rock wall in various spots. I got loaded as quickly as possible and started my experiment.
This rifle as the others I shoot have been setup with a 6" PBR and back when I set the rifle up I set to be just under 3" high at 100.
This ballistic print out shows the information computed from last fall.
(https://s26.postimg.org/3q0bg7ph5/452x245_PBR_BH.jpg)
I set up on the first chip... @ 100 yards I have found that just above the main cross hairs at the beginning of the thickened vertical post conforms to 0 at 100. So I placed the vertical post on the ship and took the shot. After the smoke cleared - the chip was gone. That provided a huge ego boost and a great reason to continue the shoot.
I continued the shoot till the rain started and washed me out of the pit. And I have to tell you I feel that I made some really difficult chip shots. The bullet just seems to be consistent as heck even though I am using a volume measure for loading.
(https://s26.postimg.org/60tbn9tx5/Lehigh_452x265.jpg)
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Good luck with copper !!!! You know The troubles Ive had with them for elk .
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What trouble have you had for elk with copper? Really interested in switching to non-toxic this year if possible, and copper is obviously my first choice.
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What trouble have you had for elk with copper? Really interested in switching to non-toxic this year if possible, and copper is obviously my first choice.
He was having problems with a Thor bullet not doing what it was suppose to do. I can not remember all of the facts but he tried several things and just did not get the performance he was after.
These Lehigh coppers are a completely different bullet...
In fact I just got the latest up-grade today. Lehigh has developed a tip to increase BC of the line of 451/452 bullets... This particular bullet is a .451x235 CF-Tipped. The tip is right now is experimental but if it works correctly and does not inhibit the Terminal Performance of the bullet it could be a really nice break through for hunters
(https://s26.postimg.org/kz6cztn7d/Lehigh_.451x235_Tipped.jpg)
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Good info!
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Sabotloader,
Any concerns about shooting the 265 grain copper Lehigh for elk at less than 150 yards?
Curtis
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Sabotloader,
Any concerns about shooting the 265 grain copper Lehigh for elk at less than 150 yards?
Curtis
I have not done it myself as of yet - but hoping that changes shortly - like the 2017 Rifle Season... But I would and do not have a problem at with using that bullet.
This ballistic sheet shows that the bullet is certainly capable of yardage greater than 150 yards...
(https://s26.postimg.org/561ejd0ah/Lehigh_452-265_CF-HP.jpg)
This sheet was computed using actual information gathered by shooting across chronographs. The bullets were shot with 120 grain of BH-209 @ about 1000 ft. elevation. Since I do not use BH the velocity will probably be 125-150 fps slower using T7. This will reduce the overall numbers somewhat. But still well within my comfort range.
IF the tips work out it will greatly increase the numbers and increase the effective range.
(https://s26.postimg.org/6q3qztol5/452x272.jpg)
(https://s26.postimg.org/xk6u38nuh/Lehigh_452-270_CF-Tipped.jpg)
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You've been there with me, are these all non toxic or is that a lead tip ,,Copper bullets shoot very nice and accurate ,I being in Oregon can't use sabots, lead/copper coated bullets. Can use either all copper or all lead. To bad liked the copper best, but to many problems, penetration, expansion of bullet. The copper needs to be soft with weight ,247 gr wasn't enough for my range of shooting.
100 yards and over,, And then there's another problem to get good weight for copper,, OR law can't be over 1" long ,,So am gonna use 460 gr bullshop for now