Post by: Dave Workman on March 26, 2017, 06:29:32 PM
Ya gotta read this story!
:tup:
Post by: whacker1 on March 26, 2017, 06:44:46 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on March 26, 2017, 06:48:09 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 26, 2017, 08:15:42 PM
I read it if its been knocked down great.Im not reading anywhere in here where they are saying that though :dunno: What was the vote numbers?The only thing i see is that Pearson is leading the effort.The bill hasn't gone to a vote, it hasn't even made it out of committee.
Post by: Oh Mah on March 26, 2017, 08:20:49 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 27, 2017, 06:24:01 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 27, 2017, 06:32:22 AM
I don't think anyone's implying their budget request has been denied. But it is good to see Pearson's got the right track. I'd much prefer to see LE admin cleaned up as a result, whether there's a fee increase or not.
Kind of. He is acknowledging some issues it looks like but I don't see him saying anything other than "leadership problem". Is he just calling for more fiscal responsibility? I don't think that'll solve the issues to be honest.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 27, 2017, 07:12:19 AM
No, I believe that he understands there are some real leadership problems, especially in LE and the director. Dave, do you have some insight on this please?.I don't think anyone's implying their budget request has been denied. But it is good to see Pearson's got the right track. I'd much prefer to see LE admin cleaned up as a result, whether there's a fee increase or not.
Kind of. He is acknowledging some issues it looks like but I don't see him saying anything other than "leadership problem". Is he just calling for more fiscal responsibility? I don't think that'll solve the issues to be honest.
Post by: Special T on March 27, 2017, 07:25:28 AM
Post by: Rob on March 27, 2017, 09:43:32 AM
“The agency wanted to correct this by initiating a hefty increase in hunting and fishing license fees without the promise for more opportunities,”
and my favorite:
“The problem is not a money problem, it’s a leadership problem,” Pearson said.
Need to run this like a business. There is plenty of money available.
Post by: Dave Workman on March 27, 2017, 06:43:39 PM
The two best quotes from that article:
“The agency wanted to correct this by initiating a hefty increase in hunting and fishing license fees without the promise for more opportunities,”
and my favorite:
“The problem is not a money problem, it’s a leadership problem,” Pearson said.
Need to run this like a business. There is plenty of money available.
BINGO!
This has been a problem with WDFW since the early 1980s when it became the WDFW. Remember it used to be the GAME Department, but that changed when they decided the title of the agency had to more greatly reflect the diversity of what they do.
For sportsmen, it became "LESS IS THE NEW MORE."
Look at the pages and pages of special permit hunts in the game regs. The agency could reduce these considerably and simply open opportunities for people without having to apply for a permit. This appears designed to get the hunting public used to applying for permits, perhaps with the idea that one day, it will all be permit hunting. You don't get drawn, well, better luck next year.
A couple of years ago, the commission okayed an expansion of the grouse bag limit to four a day. But a year or two later, the regulation was cut back to only three birds of one species and the fourth had to be of a different species (i.e. 3 blues, 1 ruffed). It's chippy stuff like this that makes people really dislike the agency.
It's getting late in the session, but there could still be time to pass a bill out of committee.
Post by: Dave Workman on March 27, 2017, 06:47:00 PM
It's nice to see some one in the legislature take notice of the problems in wdfw leadershio
Yeah, it's only taken what, 30 years or so?
:dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: bigtex on March 31, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
The grouse regs change was actually closer to 5-7 years, not a year or two.The two best quotes from that article:
“The agency wanted to correct this by initiating a hefty increase in hunting and fishing license fees without the promise for more opportunities,”
and my favorite:
“The problem is not a money problem, it’s a leadership problem,” Pearson said.
Need to run this like a business. There is plenty of money available.
BINGO!
This has been a problem with WDFW since the early 1980s when it became the WDFW. Remember it used to be the GAME Department, but that changed when they decided the title of the agency had to more greatly reflect the diversity of what they do.
For sportsmen, it became "LESS IS THE NEW MORE."
Look at the pages and pages of special permit hunts in the game regs. The agency could reduce these considerably and simply open opportunities for people without having to apply for a permit. This appears designed to get the hunting public used to applying for permits, perhaps with the idea that one day, it will all be permit hunting. You don't get drawn, well, better luck next year.
A couple of years ago, the commission okayed an expansion of the grouse bag limit to four a day. But a year or two later, the regulation was cut back to only three birds of one species and the fourth had to be of a different species (i.e. 3 blues, 1 ruffed). It's chippy stuff like this that makes people really dislike the agency.
It's getting late in the session, but there could still be time to pass a bill out of committee.
It's also well known the increase to 4 was not because the grouse population supported the increase but rather because a commissioner wanted it...
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