Post by: Smossy on March 26, 2017, 11:08:20 PM
4.2l not the dreaded 5.4..
Post by: fish vacuum on March 26, 2017, 11:53:42 PM
Only problem mine had was with the ECM. It was replaced by Ford because of an emissions issue, then the replacement crapped the bed and was replaced again on Ford's dime. I wanna say it had around 130k on it when I sold it.
Post by: SniperDanWA on March 27, 2017, 06:31:45 AM
I have a 2002 f150 2wd short box extended cab with 4.6. So far, not a lick of issues.
I have a 2000 f150 4wd long box extended cab with 5.4. I have had to do a top end on this one due to a gasket issue. Other than that, it's a solid truck. For what I paid for it, the top end cost really wasn't much.
Post by: Smossy on March 27, 2017, 08:33:45 AM
Post by: Smossy on March 27, 2017, 08:34:49 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 27, 2017, 08:37:07 AM
:twocents:
Post by: kckrawler on March 27, 2017, 11:43:51 AM
For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
:yeah: I had zero problems with my 5.4 F-150.
Post by: Smossy on March 27, 2017, 11:57:37 AM
Well glad to hear it. I just hear s many problems about ford vehicles. Gonna have to just swe what happens because we're at the bank filling out paperwork already.For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
:yeah: I had zero problems with my 5.4 F-150.
Post by: kckrawler on March 27, 2017, 12:01:41 PM
Well glad to hear it. I just hear s many problems about ford vehicles. Gonna have to just swe what happens because we're at the bank filling out paperwork already.For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
:yeah: I had zero problems with my 5.4 F-150.
:tup:
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 27, 2017, 09:02:07 PM
It really is a piece of plastic. Not just one, two. It's a crap upper and lower sandwich.
And, all they changed to "fix" the problem was a different gasket on the newer motor. (I was sooo lucky to get when I rebuilt it...)
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 27, 2017, 09:08:54 PM
For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
Lol
.. I'm not a Chevy fan however... The last 350 made was 100x better than any ford gas motor made.
Post by: fish vacuum on March 27, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
4.2 had lower intake issues and the spark plug problems. I had one. Rebuilt it myself at 170 after lower intake failure flooded #4. Don't buy a v-6 in that vintage.
Everything I read before I bought mine said that was only an issue with 97 and 98 models.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 06:55:29 AM
4.2 had lower intake issues and the spark plug problems. I had one. Rebuilt it myself at 170 after lower intake failure flooded #4. Don't buy a v-6 in that vintage.
Everything I read before I bought mine said that was only an issue with 97 and 98 models.
It was an issue with later models and v-8s. 5.4 not excluded. My friend Aaron bought a 2004 5.4 just blew intake. My brothers expedition 5.4 had cracked plug issues. They also rust in place because they are set down into the head. He also had coil pack problems. They are proud of the billable hours to fix them too. The other thing about them is that there isn't really a good reason for a v-6. They do not get an better fuel economy.
Post by: jackelope on March 28, 2017, 07:13:17 AM
For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
Lol
.. I'm not a Chevy fan however... The last 350 made was 100x better than any ford gas motor made.
5.7L R motor(Vortec)....Intake manifolds puke coolant at the corners and injectors go bad like they're going out of style. Exhaust leaks like mad. I made mortgage payments off of the commissions I made from those repairs.
I'm not a "Ford guy" for the record. I just work at a Ford dealer. I've pretty much only ever driven Chevy trucks with a couple Fords mixed in here and there.
Post by: Smossy on March 28, 2017, 07:52:59 AM
Well this one will be our second ford. Hopefully it does as well as our other one did untill the transmission went out. Figure if we don't like it we can atleast sell it for what we got it for, if not a few bucks more..For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
Lol
.. I'm not a Chevy fan however... The last 350 made was 100x better than any ford gas motor made.
5.7L R motor(Vortec)....Intake manifolds puke coolant at the corners and injectors go bad like they're going out of style. Exhaust leaks like mad. I made mortgage payments off of the commissions I made from those repairs.
I'm not a "Ford guy" for the record. I just work at a Ford dealer. I've pretty much only ever driven Chevy trucks with a couple Fords mixed in here and there.
Post by: timberfaller on March 28, 2017, 08:09:05 AM
Poorest turning radius, poorest MPG, poorest(most expensive)repair issues! Driving in four wheel in the hills, sounds like its coming apart, twice to a Ford Dealer only to be told, "that is normal for Fords" :yike: :yike:
But then all rigs have issues, some more then others though!!
Good Luck!
Post by: Smossy on March 28, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
After a life full of 4x4's my best was a 73 Chev, my WORST of the WORST is my present 02 4x4(5.4 motor)Super Crew.This one's only a 2x4. Again most the rigs with the big problems I'm hearing and reading about were the 5.4l. This one's a 4.2. So just gotta hope we get our money out of it. Take that risk with any used rigs.
Poorest turning radius, poorest MPG, poorest(most expensive)repair issues! Driving in four wheel in the hills, sounds like its coming apart, twice to a Ford Dealer only to be told, "that is normal for Fords" :yike: :yike:
But then all rigs have issues, some more then others though!!
Good Luck!
Post by: JDHasty on March 28, 2017, 12:47:57 PM
It was totaled by an idiot w/no license or insurance, we still miss that puckup. Our new F150 is roomier, and gets better mileage, but other than that the 03 was everything we wanted in a truck.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 07:20:45 PM
For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
Lol
.. I'm not a Chevy fan however... The last 350 made was 100x better than any ford gas motor made.
5.7L R motor(Vortec)....Intake manifolds puke coolant at the corners and injectors go bad like they're going out of style. Exhaust leaks like mad. I made mortgage payments off of the commissions I made from those repairs.
I'm not a "Ford guy" for the record. I just work at a Ford dealer. I've pretty much only ever driven Chevy trucks with a couple Fords mixed in here and there.
Huh, three of my buddies have over 350k and my ex gf had 400k on non rebuilt 98 5.7's. The ex put on headers at 200 with flowmasters. My other buddies had done exhaust gaskets when the exhaust rotted out from under them. That's way more expected than rotted and broken spark plugs at 125k. Sucked lower gaskets that are a biotch to replace.
The latest 5.7 is hands down the best ever, cheapest and easiest motor to repair. Anyone who says differently shouldn't be trusted for truck advice.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 07:22:48 PM
Whatever you heard is not good info. Find a two wheel drive Chevy with a 5.7. You will get same gas mileage, way more power, parts are cheap and its super easy to dyi repairs. That 4.2 is junker.After a life full of 4x4's my best was a 73 Chev, my WORST of the WORST is my present 02 4x4(5.4 motor)Super Crew.This one's only a 2x4. Again most the rigs with the big problems I'm hearing and reading about were the 5.4l. This one's a 4.2. So just gotta hope we get our money out of it. Take that risk with any used rigs.
Poorest turning radius, poorest MPG, poorest(most expensive)repair issues! Driving in four wheel in the hills, sounds like its coming apart, twice to a Ford Dealer only to be told, "that is normal for Fords" :yike: :yike:
But then all rigs have issues, some more then others though!!
Good Luck!
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/6064226808.html
Post by: Smossy on March 28, 2017, 09:31:09 PM
In my mind, for a gas truck, after having seen a bunch of them never quit first hand... This low miles v-8, waaay more power than a v-6, same or better mileage(I've owned both)... Nice truck right here.It's a shame I didn't see this a few days ago. Damn good truck right there I would have jumped on that. Oh well.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/6064226808.html
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 10:34:36 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 28, 2017, 10:38:59 PM
Post by: fish vacuum on March 29, 2017, 03:57:18 AM
The other thing about them is that there isn't really a good reason for a v-6. They do not get an better fuel economy.
One good reason for a V6 is that with less hp is puts less stress on the fragile Ford transmission. :P
Post by: Smossy on March 29, 2017, 07:09:52 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 29, 2017, 07:27:12 AM
The other thing about them is that there isn't really a good reason for a v-6. They do not get an better fuel economy.
One good reason for a V6 is that with less hp is puts less stress on the fragile Ford transmission. :P
Never had a clutch issue with my f-150. Put 170k on it before it blew up/imploded.
Post by: jackelope on March 29, 2017, 07:46:53 AM
For every problem the 5.4 has, I can find a problem that pretty much every other engine on the planet has.
:twocents:
Lol
.. I'm not a Chevy fan however... The last 350 made was 100x better than any ford gas motor made.
5.7L R motor(Vortec)....Intake manifolds puke coolant at the corners and injectors go bad like they're going out of style. Exhaust leaks like mad. I made mortgage payments off of the commissions I made from those repairs.
I'm not a "Ford guy" for the record. I just work at a Ford dealer. I've pretty much only ever driven Chevy trucks with a couple Fords mixed in here and there.
Huh, three of my buddies have over 350k and my ex gf had 400k on non rebuilt 98 5.7's. The ex put on headers at 200 with flowmasters. My other buddies had done exhaust gaskets when the exhaust rotted out from under them. That's way more expected than rotted and broken spark plugs at 125k. Sucked lower gaskets that are a biotch to replace.
The latest 5.7 is hands down the best ever, cheapest and easiest motor to repair. Anyone who says differently shouldn't be trusted for truck advice.
I won't argue which one is better. I was just mentioning some of the common issues they have/had. It's been almost 20 years since they put a 350 in a truck, so they're pretty much all worn out by now. 3 trucks without issues doesn't really set a benchmark. I had a '95 and it was a great truck with zero engine issues up to 200k miles. The ones pre-96 were better than the latest ones IMO in regard to reliability. When they switched over to the Vortec and the injector issues kind of tanked their reliability. The TBI injection was pretty rock solid.
Post by: Smossy on March 29, 2017, 09:06:23 AM
So any other things to look out for on this rig I'm picking up? It's being detailed right now so i should have it by this weekend.The other thing about them is that there isn't really a good reason for a v-6. They do not get an better fuel economy.
One good reason for a V6 is that with less hp is puts less stress on the fragile Ford transmission. :P
Never had a clutch issue with my f-150. Put 170k on it before it blew up/imploded.
Yall are stressing me out alittle. :o it's mostly going to be for hunting/fishing/dragging my tiny boat, pickin up supplies for the property. Etc. Doubt there will be any serious road trips or work commutes in its future unless my daily brakes down.
Post by: Skillet on March 29, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Enjoy your new ride. :tup:
Post by: JDHasty on March 29, 2017, 12:31:56 PM
You will be fine, man. Sounds like you committed to it, so just filter out the stream of negativity that polluted your thread and take the good bits of advice (relating to your truck as opposed to Ford vs Chev, V6 vs V8, etc.) Watch it close for a little while, just like you should with any new or new-to-you vehicle. Maintain religiously. Buy a shop manual for it. If something breaks, fix it. That's how you keep a nice rig nice.
Enjoy your new ride. :tup:
That's what I am talking about!
Post by: Smossy on March 29, 2017, 03:17:25 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 29, 2017, 03:20:51 PM
:tup: Thanks. If only I knew how to work on cars and trucks lolLots of good help on the forum! Now go fill the back of that sucker up with dead things! :chuckle:
Post by: Happy Gilmore on March 30, 2017, 01:00:23 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 30, 2017, 02:44:28 PM
Can't stress about a $2,500 rig. I thought you were asking advice on whether to buy one or not. I had one. Put a lot of problem free miles on it. I bought mine new. Used it. They drive nice, ride good and do what you expect a v-6 half ton to do.Yeah like I said only really plan to do small basic stuff. No serious business like hauling campers or horse trailers. Just always wanted something I could just take my muddy boots off or wett waders and juse toss them in the back and not have to worry about much. Just want the simple factor of the bed. Can't even pick up hay for yhe goats because it will get everywhere in any other of our vehicles.